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More discussion of this on Joe Rogan's podcast today with guest Ryan Graves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4t8UgcjKfM
Former Lt. U.S. Navy and F/A-18F pilot Ryan Graves was the first active duty pilot to publicly disclose regular sightings of Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon. Today, Graves serves as first Chair of the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics UAP Community of Interest, and is the Director of Business Development at Quantum Generative Materials.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4t8UgcjKfM
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