Never go to the hospital with a dog bite and tell the truth... Almost got arrested today..

[cindy25]

lying to the person in authority is now the norm, be it the bank teller, the dog license form (ALL DOGS ARE MONGRELS!!), the hospital

 

[Anti Federalist]

lying to the person in authority is now the norm, be it the bank teller, the dog license form (ALL DOGS ARE MONGRELS!!), the hospital

Which is, depending on the "authority" in question, a felony.

 

[flynn]

Take your dog to the vet, you get your antibiotic anyway and without the complication.

 

[whippoorwill]

This land of the free is one fucked up place.

 

[jbauer]

Because his health insurance pays for it thus justifying higher premiums for all of us even though he doesn't feel the imediate cost of it.

I'm not being snarky. WHy would an accident that happened 12 - 18 hours earlier suddenly require immediate care?

 

[oyarde]

Why a tetanus shot?

Tetanus is for puncture wounds with possible feces embedded, where no air can get to.

puncture wounds from the canines , lower leg , I knew it had been about 10 or 15 years since my last shot....

 

[The Free Hornet]

She yells back "you gave it to me!" I state, "no, I did not, and you're lying to my face" she then tells me to go to the waiting room or she will call the police!

Maybe call their bluff next time...

Or not.

 

[fisharmor]

I wonder if you are exempt from filling out the form if the wound if from a police dog?

If you actually got bit by a police dog, you'd be sitting in a cell, eyes stinging from pepper spray, and actively bleeding from a scalp wound... but the bright side is that someone else would be doing your paperwork for you.

I went once for a tetnus shot for a bite ,just to a med center , basically I just lied , said it was random while I was fishing somewhere, I did not know anything . They had lots of forms , and this was a private place , not a hospital , I paid cash , did not even use my Health ins....

Shit, I totally forgot I need to get my shot - I have a sheet metal shop and like to keep up to date.
10 years ago that story was good enough, but I've got compressed gas in there, and probably a bunch of potential noise violation money.
I don't know how the hell I'm going to get my shot now... I don't want to have to deliberately step on a nail.

 

[Nickels]

(Names, Locations, & Dates have been changed to protect the innocent :o)

So a few days ago while I was visiting in L.A. I gave a friend's chihuahua a bath...

This particular dog may have been a little unhappy about this endeavor and may have bit my finger pretty good.

Not a big deal, cleaned and bandaged it, the next morning I can't bend that finger, it was very swollen, not red around the wound or anything, I am quite proficient at cleaning and treating basic wounds. However it is painful enough to where I think it might actually be fractured. So I go to the ER that morning to get a simple X-Ray at a hospital where it won't cost me much due to my coverage.

"Due to your coverage", meaning you are using their services, so you get to take orders from them.

I show up at the ER very early in the morning, only a few people waiting surprisingly enough, show them my wound, explain that an uncooperative chihuahua bit me while getting a bath. No worries, everyone is friendly, give me some paperwork to fill out while I wait.

It is then that I notice one of the papers has an animal control letter head on it... I stop and read it over, it wants information about the dog, the location, the owner, breed of dog, is it licensed, etc etc etc

It's now that I realize I have f**ked up.

I had already written name & address & phone # but choose to write "unknown" on the rest of the form, & decide to change my story to unknown dog at unknown park, no further info available.

Aha, so your problem wasn't telling the truth, it was changing your story. Had you lied all the way, or told the truth all the way, you'd not have such trouble, your friend will lose his dog, but you'll get your treatment.

I get called back up and they want the form, I very calmly ask if I am required to provide that form. They state yes. I ask for further info, I asked what if I decline to fill it out, big mistake.

Their entire demeanor instantly changes 180 degrees to police mode, "why don't you want to give us the form?!?!?!"

I state very calmly that I feel my personal info is in enough databases with enough govt. and would prefer not to add it to another if I am not actually required by law to do so...

They instantly start repeating "it's the law!, it's the law! ad nauseum...

I ask politely if they could please verify with an admin that it's indeed "the law" while I get my X-Ray, they begrudingly agree.

I get my X-Ray and come back, I am called in to see the ER doc who tells me that my finger is not fractured and looks okay, then she asks about "the form"...

Once again I calmly give her my explanation that I simply wanted clarification that I am actually required "by law" not just some weaksauce local regulation or something.

You just taught the hospital to say next time "because you're here, we don't treat you without the form, it's your choice, stay or leave".

She then proceeds to loose her damn mind on me, bumps her voice from a 2 to an 8 and proceeds to yell at me that I must follow their procedure because I have come for treatment and blah blah blah

At this point the form is sitting on a table next to me and I have my hand on it.

A particularly angry looking nurse who had been standing nearby and observing the conversation walks about and snatches the paper away from me and hustles off and proceeds to ram it into a fax machine...

At this point I loose my cool, I stand up and loudly exclaim "excuse me?! you're taking papers out of my hands right now?!?! That's how this is going to play out?!?!" She yells back "you gave it to me!" I state, "no, I did not, and you're lying to my face" she then tells me to go to the waiting room or she will call the police!

I bite my tongue and walk to the waiting room, at this point I am furious, I am supposed to be waiting for unnecessary antibiotics that I was planning on taking and saving, but I start googling around on my phone...

Some stories start coming up of people talking about how they had their dogs taken and held for 24 hour observation periods and how the animal control can decide "what to do with your pet" based on their behavior while locked in a foreign cage... What could possibly go wrong...

Because your dog bit you, everybody has to take the risk of your dog doing it again. I think I get your story now, it's not "you getting arrested for telling the truth", it's a mix of your paranoia on privacy, desire to protect the dog, and uncooperative on a private property (hospital/clinic) that altogether spell out "hostile".

 

[jonhowe]

Next time,,collect a few hairs from the animal,,put in a cold beer and drink it,,
screw the hospital.

You and I have our disagreements, but this post made my day.

 

[jonhowe]

Because your dog bit you, everybody has to take the risk of your dog doing it again. I think I get your story now, it's not "you getting arrested for telling the truth", it's a mix of your paranoia on privacy, desire to protect the dog, and uncooperative on a private property (hospital/clinic) that altogether spell out "hostile".

First of all, I'm not sure you have the details right. Second of all, the OP didn't go into the situation expecting this to happen. Knowing what is best in the long run when you don't know whats going on is tough. It's like when people allow police to search their car thinking "this will make things easier".

 

[Anti Federalist]

Because your dog bit you, everybody has to take the risk of your dog doing it again. I think I get your story now, it's not "you getting arrested for telling the truth", it's a mix of your paranoia on privacy, desire to protect the dog, and uncooperative on a private property (hospital/clinic) that altogether spell out "hostile".

Private property my ass.

Hospitals are no more private property than the water dept or the electric grid.

Direct me to their competition, if they are private.

You can't, because in most places, the hospitals have a government mandated monopoly on walk in emergency services.

 

[Reason]

"Due to your coverage", meaning you are using their services, so you get to take orders from them.



Aha, so your problem wasn't telling the truth, it was changing your story. Had you lied all the way, or told the truth all the way, you'd not have such trouble, your friend will lose his dog, but you'll get your treatment.



You just taught the hospital to say next time "because you're here, we don't treat you without the form, it's your choice, stay or leave".



Because your dog bit you, everybody has to take the risk of your dog doing it again. I think I get your story now, it's not "you getting arrested for telling the truth", it's a mix of your paranoia on privacy, desire to protect the dog, and uncooperative on a private property (hospital/clinic) that altogether spell out "hostile".

You have a long journey ahead of you before you even come close to waking up.

 

[Nickels]

Private property my ass.

Hospitals are no more private property than the water dept or the electric grid.

Direct me to their competition, if they are private.

You can't, because in most places, the hospitals have a government mandated monopoly on walk in emergency services.

Never seen or heard of private hospitals? No, hospitals are not mandated, or else you'd have one if every little city, like your water dept. If hospitals were mandated to exist, you'd have more empty ones, not overcrowded ones. When you say "government mandated emergency" I think you mean they are mandated to never turn away emergency patients, this is different than saying they are the only people allowed to take emergency patients (anybody licenses to practice medicine can take an emergency patient if he feels competent).

 

[Nickels]

You have a long journey ahead of you before you even come close to waking up.

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

 

[Nickels]

First of all, I'm not sure you have the details right. Second of all, the OP didn't go into the situation expecting this to happen.

I'm sure he didn't think before trusting an animal.

Knowing what is best in the long run when you don't know whats going on is tough. It's like when people allow police to search their car thinking "this will make things easier".

I'm not sure what's good in the short run about giving a dog a bath.

 

[Reason]

Anyone want to take bets on how long it takes for Nickels to get banned?

 

[Nickels]

Anyone want to take bets on how long it takes for Nickels to get banned?

Why should I be banned? Just because I don't sympathize with your dog bite and near arrest experience?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Anyone want to take bets on how long it takes for Nickels to get banned?

Well, I'd never be in favor of a banning just because they hold contrary views.

That might happen though, when a mod realizes that Nickels is our old pal Josh_LA/Walt/Optatron/Liberdom/and God knows who else, trolling us.

How's that injury by the way? Hope you recoved well.

 

[Reason]

Well, I'd never be in favor of a banning just because they hold contrary views.

That might happen though, when a mod realizes that Nickels is our old pal Josh_LA/Walt/Optatron/Liberdom/and God knows who else, trolling us.

How's that injury by the way? Hope you recoved well.

Seems to be okay, never got any antibiotics, I have some good silver based topical antibiotic that seems to have been sufficient, I haven't received any calls from animal control. All is well, for now.