Nation Builder due diligence

[amy31416]

What the hell? What is this site? Do NOT donate to anything until it's verified...if you want to donate to help RP, donate to RonPaul2008.com OR http://www.ronpaulforcongress.com/.

Do NOT donate to anything that crops up in the middle of the night. Too many shysters out there.

 

[amy31416]

Not a problem. We will accept donations from every country, continent and even Antarctica!!!

Is that because it's not really a legitimate website to promote Ron Paul? Otherwise it IS illegal for foreigners to donate to any committee or campaign that promotes a candidate, be they Ron Paul or anyone else.

 

[amy31416]

I call BS on both the OP and the responder. This is a bunch of crap, trying to get the naive to donate.

I've reported both of you.

 

[Sandra]

Moderators! Scam alert!

 

[LibertyEagle]

Smoky,

1. Who are you?
2. What Meetup are you in?

You can send this information to me in a PM, if you choose.

For the time being, everyone should do their due diligence before they contribute to this.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Please answer my questions, Smokey

Thank you.

 

[amy31416]

Just got another 50. Getting closer but still need more donations of any amount

The REVOLUTION Continues @ http://nationbuilder.org

No donations from anyone with a brain until you respond about this "organization." I doubt that anyone here has donated.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Thanks for the info. smokey. I've reopened the thread.

 

[Sandra]

Gee! Can WE get some info? Sounds crooked as hell!

 

[smokey1sc]

Thanks Amy

Is that because it's not really a legitimate website to promote Ron Paul? Otherwise it IS illegal for foreigners to donate to any committee or campaign that promotes a candidate, be they Ron Paul or anyone else.

We are currently not an organization and are unformed, therefore anyone anywhere can donate.

We are simply activists with great integrity, follow through and goals.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Moderator Note

Please note- RonPaulForums.com maintains neutrality on the established credibility of forum members, particular those with no online track record and does recommend all users perform proper due diligence and use their best judgment before donating to any particular cause. The forum guidelines include the following:

+ Care should be used when soliciting money for some effort to support the campaign as it is totally possible that a scam artist will be looking to take advantage of the good nature of Ron Paul supporters. If you're going to do anything that will solicit taking money you'd be wise to make sure you have some established credibility within the community that matches what you expect. If you don't have that, try to set up some arrangements with a third party that does that so people send money to the trusted third party who make sure it goes where intended.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=22

 

[Sandra]

What you're doing is not legit. Moderators, you should probably remove this thresd until verified.

 

[LibertyEagle]

If I don't hear from you in another couple of minutes, I'm putting the thread back in queue for the admins to decide on tomorrow.

 

[smokey1sc]

Just sent

You a couple pm's

 

[smokey1sc]

Done

Thanks

 

[Mark]

I smell something "fishy".

This site was registered with the registrant's personal name as "Nation Builder" - obviously an attempt to hide who registered the name.

And the contact number is a tollfree "888" number that's not even a complete number.

These two things, I believe, are violation of Godaddy's policy. Maybe someone should contact Godaddy and ask.

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, San-Serif]Domain ID151277125-LROR
Domain Name:NATIONBUILDER.ORG
Created On:13-Feb-2008 20:45:58 UTC
Last Updated On:13-Feb-2008 20:45:59 UTC
Expiration Date:13-Feb-2009 20:45:58 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, Inc. (R91-LROR)


Registrant ID:GODA-043536929

Registrant Name:Nation Builder

Registrant Organization:Nation Builder
Registrant Street1:1059 120th Avenue
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Westminster
Registrant State/Province:Colorado
Registrant Postal Code:80221
Registrant Country:US

Registrant Phone:+1.888331300

Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:[email protected]
Admin ID:GODA-243536929
Admin Name:Nation Builder
Admin Organization:Nation Builder
Admin Street1:1059 120th Avenue
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Westminster
Admin State/Province:Colorado
Admin Postal Code:80221
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.888331300
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:[email protected]
Tech ID:GODA-143536929
Tech Name:Nation Builder
Tech Organization:Nation Builder
Tech Street1:1059 120th Avenue
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Westminster
Tech State/Province:Colorado
Tech Postal Code:80221
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.888331300
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:[email protected]
Name Server:NS33.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server:NS34.DOMAINCONTROL.COM [/FONT]

 

[Mark]

I made an abuse report to Godaddy and reported invalid Whois as well.

The registration info is definitely different that their site "contact" info.

Registrant:
Nation Builder

1059 120th Avenue
Westminster, Colorado 80221
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: NATIONBUILDER.ORG
Created on: 13-Feb-08
Expires on: 13-Feb-09
Last Updated on: 13-Feb-08

Administrative Contact:
Builder, Nation [email protected]
1059 120th Avenue
Westminster, Colorado 80221
United States
888331300

Technical Contact:
Builder, Nation [email protected]
1059 120th Avenue
Westminster, Colorado 80221
United States
888331300

Domain servers in listed order:
NS33.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS34.DOMAINCONTROL.COM

 

[Mark]

Nationl Builder due diligence

Caution until a few things are straightened out.

This site was registered with the registrant's personal name as "Nation Builder" - obviously an attempt to hide who registered the name.

And the contact number is a tollfree "888" number that's not even a complete number.

I made an abuse report to Godaddy and reported invalid Whois as well.

The registration info is definitely different that their site "contact" info.

Registrant:
Nation Builder

1059 120th Avenue
Westminster, Colorado 80221
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: NATIONBUILDER.ORG
Created on: 13-Feb-08
Expires on: 13-Feb-09
Last Updated on: 13-Feb-08

Administrative Contact:
Builder, Nation [email protected]
1059 120th Avenue
Westminster, Colorado 80221
United States
888331300

Technical Contact:
Builder, Nation [email protected]
1059 120th Avenue
Westminster, Colorado 80221
United States
888331300

Domain servers in listed order:
NS33.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS34.DOMAINCONTROL.COM

 

[Mark]

Oh well, I'm guessing this is Ryan:

http://ronpaul.meetup.com/26/members/4666056/

and this is possibly Shane:

http://ronpaul.meetup.com/26/members/4899880/

 

[Mark]

Oh well, I'm guessing this is Ryan:

http://ronpaul.meetup.com/26/members/4666056/

and this is possibly Shane:

http://ronpaul.meetup.com/26/members/4899880/