NASA’s Hansen Exploits Hot Summers to Push Carbon Fascism

[John F Kennedy III]

This is a heck of a good site. For each 173 arguments, there is a "basic", "intermediate" and "advanced" level explanation:

For example, for the question: "is the sun causing global warming?"

They have a Twitter answer: "In the last 35 years of global warming, sun and climate have been going in opposite directions" for those that need a quick retort.

Then they have three level of answers:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming-basic.htm
http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming-intermediate.htm
http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming-advanced.htm

You won't see this kind of detailed, fact based explanations form the other side. It's good work.

 

[Travlyr]

The rhetoric of the global warming crowd is offensive. Their main goal is not environmental friendliness, or truth, as proved by their propaganda. Their goal is to promote a State solution ... a tax for exhaling carbon dioxide.

The 'deniers' are not denying that humans contribute to climate change. Most of us understand that just like a butterfly flying in South America contributes to the wind currents in the Arctic ... human activity contributes to the environment. Nobody, that I know, is denying that, but we are called 'deniers' anyway in order to promote a disinformation campaign.

What I believe is that human contribution is negligible compared to the animals, and even more negligible than the plants, the oceans, and solar activity. I also believe that climate change is a highly desired constant change since the beginning of the Earth and that life could not exist without constant climate change.

Can humans do better with the environment? Certainly. Does burning fuel contribute? I'm confident that it does contribute just like forest fires and volcanic activity. Yet, one volcano erupting in 1816 did more instant destruction to the climate than 6 billion humans, all the plants & animals of the world, the oceans, and all the solar activity of today ... combined. "The Year Without A Summer."

As I've said before, legalizing industrial hemp would be one huge step forward. Where are the global warming alarmists on legalizing industrial hemp? Why are they silent on that? Industrial Hemp is the most green plant known to humankind.

Compostable plastics made from industrial hemp would allow the people to recycle almost all containers in an environmentally friendly manner... in the compost bin. Waste Management Systems ™ (landfill operations) don't want any part of that. Panels made from industrial hemp are lighter and stronger than steel. AISI: American Iron and Steel Institute ™ doesn't want any part of that. Hemp paper would put an end to wood pulp paper and the cutting of forests for paper. High quality hemp clothing would compete with cotton, etc. And on and on. Mercantilists keep industrial hemp illegal to grow in order to limit their competition. In the modern world of the 21st century, if one grows an environmentally friendly and green plant, then the authorities will throw them in cages. Why?

That is how I know it is all a bunch of bunk ... that they are not serious. That is why they demonize people who do not buy into their 'global warming religion' and label them as 'deniers.' Global warming alarmists are disingenuous. They have one goal in mind and that is to keep the government research money coming. It pays big bucks. If they were serious, then they would allow the industrial hemp industry to thrive.

The premise that CO2 causes climate change is something that the global alarmists are trying to get us all to believe, yet I do not buy that. CO2 levels trail temperature changes. History is on my side, on that. I also believe that increased CO2 levels will promote plant growth. CO2 is food for plants.

Global warming alarmists, as far as I am concerned, are indoctrinated with lies, or they are interested in keeping government research money filling their coffers. They are an offensive group ... a very influential and dishonest group of people.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

so I go out and form my own private court, where does my authority to government you come from? Explicit consent? That doesn't help me when somebody violates me and doesn't recognize my court, its rules and maybe even the rights we supposedly expect to agree on.

I see that you are banned, but WOW, did you really just use "government" as a verb?

 

[John F Kennedy III]

I see that you are banned, but WOW, did you really just use "government" as a verb?

I'm hoping it's a permaban. The dude was incredibly childish.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

I also don't believe the state is the solution. If we paid the correct price for energy, there would be a lot less human made global warming.

The above site and the 173 answers have nothing to do with the state and taxation. It simply makes the case as to whether or not the planet is warming up. It's clear that it is, and I believe that in part humans are the cause.

Now about what needs to be done? Oil subsidies for one need to go. The middle east wars need to stop. We need to open up trading with arab countries and make friends with them.

The price of non-renewable energy will go up, naturally. Renewable energy will go down in price, naturally, and we will reduce CO2 production.

I really don't care who is right on climate change. I personally think it is a lot of bunk and those who believe it are very gullible. They will take anything they agree with as good science.

However, when it comes down to it, as long as you oppose all of the state "solutions", it doesn't matter to me if you believe global warming. Want to know why?

Because, in 50-70 years or so, I will be around, and many of you still will as well. Then we will see just how fake this global climate change bullshit is when they are still pushing this propaganda 50 years from now and nothing has changed. It's like a carrot on a stick. As time goes by, the deadline for imminent disaster caused by global warming will also move back. Eventually, people will see what fools they were for believing this hoax which was carried out ONLY for propaganda purposes.

Global climate change is not something that the state hijacked. It was created by the state for the state. You believers go ahead and believe and be fools. You will see.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

I also don't believe the state is the solution. If we paid the correct price for energy, there would be a lot less human made global warming.

The above site and the 173 answers have nothing to do with the state and taxation. It simply makes the case as to whether or not the planet is warming up. It's clear that it is, and I believe that in part humans are the cause.

Now about what needs to be done? Oil subsidies for one need to go. The middle east wars need to stop. We need to open up trading with arab countries and make friends with them.

The price of non-renewable energy will go up, naturally. Renewable energy will go down in price, naturally, and we will reduce CO2 production.

173 answers to 173 straw men.

I reject on principle any source that offers to package the supposedly generic arguments of the entire opposition without consulting even one of them and respond to them so that you don't have to.

The fact that you DON'T reject this really drains your credibility and brings your ability to think critically into question.

 

[Natural Citizen]

I really don't care who is right on climate change. I personally think it is a lot of bunk and those who believe it are very gullible. They will take anything they agree with as good science.

However, when it comes down to it, as long as you oppose all of the state "solutions", it doesn't matter to me if you believe global warming. Want to know why?

Because, in 50-70 years or so, I will be around, and many of you still will as well. Then we will see just how fake this global climate change bullshit is when they are still pushing this propaganda 50 years from now and nothing has changed. It's like a carrot on a stick. As time goes by, the deadline for imminent disaster caused by global warming will also move back. Eventually, people will see what fools they were for believing this hoax which was carried out ONLY for propaganda purposes.

Global climate change is not something that the state hijacked. It was created by the state for the state. You believers go ahead and believe and be fools. You will see.

Humans have hung out on this rock for a very short amount of time during the planet's existence. When Earth is tired of them it will shake them off like a bad case of the fleas and will continue to exist in a universe where change is and always has been constant.

Do folks not understand that all of the planets are heating up? Jiminy crickets.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Humans have hung out on this rock for a very short amount of time during the planet's existence. When Earth is tired of them it will shake them off like a bad case of the fleas and will continue to exist in a universe where change is and always has been constant.

Do folks not understand that all of the planets are heating up? Jiminy crickets.

No they don't because the tv doesn't tell them.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Mars Surface Made of Shifting Plates Like Earth, Study Suggests

http://www.space.com/17087-mars-surface-marsquakes-plate-tectonics.html

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Mars Surface Made of Shifting Plates Like Earth, Study Suggests

http://www.space.com/17087-mars-surface-marsquakes-plate-tectonics.html

Very interesting. Seems to strengthen the theory that Mars once supported life.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Don't know what to think about this. But the man wants to militarize NASA. Whoda thunkit? Say's them terists are starting forest fires.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFHM0rd9cX8&feature=share&fb_source=message

 

[Natural Citizen]

Very interesting. Seems to strengthen the theory that Mars once supported life.

Maybe. I never really found that aspect of Mars exploration to be as interesting as other aspects. Not to negate it though. Just my own...meme. I guess that's the word.

 

[Nickels]

173 answers to 173 straw men.

No, not 173 straw men. At least not for here. I posted several links to that site ONLY when the same tired arguments were made here by people who are not aware of the responses. Otherwise I'd never recommend the site.

 

[Nickels]

I see that you are banned, but WOW, did you really just use "government" as a verb?

Yes, I did. I meant govern. I'll go back and correct it. Thanks and sorry.

 

[Nickels]

Oh. I thought you were being satirical.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/scientists-trace-heat-wave-to-massive-star-at-cent,21088/

You're the one being satirical, probably unknowingly. And childish, for posting the same video and ignoring my responses to it. FYI, if you don't like the arguments in response, at least acknowledge you've read it and just don't agree. Or admit you've not read them. Ignoring them doesn't make them go away.

 

[Nickels]

LOL. It is BS, but you get to believe whatever you want to believe and they will tax you for it.

Just because we believe humans cause global warming via CO2, or at least the greenhouse effect, does not mean we favor taxing. You seem to believe that IF it was true that CO2 causes global warming, we MUST tax and it WILL solve the problem (in which case, you agree more with the alarmists, Al Gore and policy makers than scientists do).

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Maybe. I never really found that aspect of Mars exploration to be as interesting as other aspects. Not to negate it though. Just my own...meme. I guess that's the word.

What aspects do you find interesting?

 

[Travlyr]

Just because we believe humans cause global warming via CO2, or at least the greenhouse effect, does not mean we favor taxing. You seem to believe that IF it was true that CO2 causes global warming, we MUST tax and it WILL solve the problem (in which case, you agree more with the alarmists, Al Gore and policy makers than scientists do).

You get to believe whatever fairy tale they tell you. I do not believe that CO2 causes warming. I believe that solar activity, and other natural occurrences, are the greatest contributers, by far, and I am not in favor of taxing people for their carbon footprints.

You do realize that the year without a summer was caused by volcanic activity, right? That volcano did more to cool the planet all at once than all the people, and industry, on the Earth combined in the last 100 years.

 

[Natural Citizen]

What aspects do you find interesting?

Well...right this second I'm just interested in the similarities of the planets.

Is a hoot...

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Well...right this second I'm just interested in the similarities of the planets.

Is a hoot...

It seems to be showing that it's on Earth in New Mexico