NASA’s Hansen Exploits Hot Summers to Push Carbon Fascism

[Travlyr]

It is unfortunate that the scientific community is letting Hansen and other government paid pseudo scientists get away with their distortions of the truth. They are discrediting their own institution. It is foolish to take government stats, research, and investigations serious anymore.

Hansen’s Study: Did Global Warming Cause Recent Extreme Weather Events?

In short, Hansen’s sweeping assertion that global warming is the principal cause of the European and Russian heat waves, and the Texas-Oklahoma drought, is not supported by event-specific analysis and is implausible in light of previous research.

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The Breakthrough Institute develops this thesis in great detail in a collection of posts titled the “Death of Cap-and-Trade.” Because affordable energy is vital to prosperity and much of the world is energy poor, it would be economically ruinous and, thus, politically suicidal to demand that people abandon fossil fuels before cheaper alternative energies are available. But that is exactly what warmistas like Hansen urge the U.S. and other governments to do – lock up vast stores of carbonaceous fuel and penalize fossil energy use before commercially-viable alternatives exist.

As the Breakthrough folks argue, if you’re worried about climate change, then your chief policy goal should be to make alternative energy cheaper than fossil energy. Instead, the global warming movement has attempted to make fossil energy more costly than alternative energy, or to simply mandate the switch to alternative energy regardless of cost. Al Gore’s call in 2008 to “re-power America” with zero-carbon energy within 10 years is epitomizes this folly. More “moderate” variants would only do less harm, less rapidly.

Legalizing Industrial Hemp would go a long ways toward greening the planet, but it is never talked about by the global warming alarmists. Sad really. Compostable plastics, high quality paper and clothes, clean burning fuel, renewable resource ... there are so many advantages to hemp, yet the alarmists tell us we must pay the piper instead. What are we paying them for? The truly sad part is that millions of people actually believe that global warming is a problem with no viable solutions. Government keeps hemp illegal to grow. Why? What is their real agenda?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPRgrfhyPoU

 

[Natural Citizen]

Just look at that chart.25,000 years ago,an eye blink in geologic time,Chicago was underneath about a mile of ice.Those warm peaks are few,short lasting and far apart.What if the only thing stopping us from plunging into another ice age,which would kill billions more people than warming,was SUV's,heated swimming pools and coal fired power plants?

Some folks would look rather silly then wouldn't they.

As I recall we had a little cold spell for a few hundred years back in the 14oo's. Lasted until the 1600's. And yes. These fossil fuels would put us in a rather happy state of affairs given that scenario. It's unfortunate that this is seldom brought up. An inconvenient truth in itself.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

There are scientists, then their are scientists drunk and corrupted on political power. You usually play for the team who pays you your due. I love how climate deceivers always state that this "climate denier" or that climate denier, since they disagree, is being funded by "dirty oil"... Never will they see that they themselves are funded by the greatest evil : monopoly government. But the "righteous" and true never see it: that they themselves are the very thing they rail against: a propagandist for the "dirty" and immoral fascist state. Science says nothing about what we ought to do, it says what is. Carbon taxes, cap and trade, geo-engennering etc. etc...are all wild adventures in madness from the reckless and irresponsible political class who are hell bent to sacrifice the people to save their precious state. Many planners admit that the aforementioned schemes are nothing more than crafty methods to sure up government coffers - not mitigate for climate change.

"Climate change", and all its remedies, is simply American fascism on the march. But, for most people, they don't bother to look at it closely; WE MUST ACT NOW is repeated like a battle cry, save the masses become wise to the swindle.

Scientists who advocate for more government are themselves against science. Science would not exist in a hand to mouth existence socialist world which they are pushing toward. And science in a fascist state is nothing more than another means to bolster even more self serving political looting.

Great post.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

It is unfortunate that the scientific community is letting Hansen and other government paid pseudo scientists get away with their distortions of the truth. They are discrediting their own institution. It is foolish to take government stats, research, and investigations serious anymore.

Hansen’s Study: Did Global Warming Cause Recent Extreme Weather Events?



Legalizing Industrial Hemp would go a long ways toward greening the planet, but it is never talked about by the global warming alarmists. Sad really. Compostable plastics, high quality paper and clothes, clean burning fuel, renewable resource ... there are so many advantages to hemp, yet the alarmists tell us we must pay the piper instead. What are we paying them for? The truly sad part is that millions of people actually believe that global warming is a problem with no viable solutions. Government keeps hemp illegal to grow. Why? What is their real agenda?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPRgrfhyPoU

Thank you for posting.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Bump so more people can learn the truth ^

 

[RickyJ]

Hansen on staff at NASA is proof that NASA does not care about true science but rather lining their pockets with government grants. The case for global warming itself has been shown to rely on falsified data. There is only one reason scientists would falsify data, money! There is big money in a global warming hoax because requiring a carbon tax would give governments more of our hard earned money for them to waste partly on scientists that will publish more of their lies to gain even more control over us.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Hansen on staff at NASA is proof that NASA does not care about true science but rather lining their pockets with government grants. The case for global warming itself has been shown to rely on falsified data. There is only one reason scientists would falsify data, money! There is big money in a global warming hoax because requiring a carbon tax would give governments more of our hard earned money for them to waste partly on scientists that will publish more of their lies to gain even more control over us.

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[Zippyjuan]

Some folks would look rather silly then wouldn't they.

As I recall we had a little cold spell for a few hundred years back in the 14oo's. Lasted until the 1600's. And yes. These fossil fuels would put us in a rather happy state of affairs given that scenario. It's unfortunate that this is seldom brought up. An inconvenient truth in itself.

You recall the 1400's? Man- you are WAY older than I thought you were!

 

[Nickels]

Hansen on staff at NASA is proof that NASA does not care about true science but rather lining their pockets with government grants. The case for global warming itself has been shown to rely on falsified data. There is only one reason scientists would falsify data, money! There is big money in a global warming hoax because requiring a carbon tax would give governments more of our hard earned money for them to waste partly on scientists that will publish more of their lies to gain even more control over us.

If by true science you mean Alex Jones, Natural News, Zero Hedge and Rense, then yeah, they don't care. Global warming is not a hoax and it does not rely on falsified data (you're thinking climategate, which even if the alleged disputed data were completely discarded, has no affect on global warming facts), while scientists are not perfect and can be biased, or even mistaken, to say they lie for government because there's money to be made by carbon taxation is ridiculous without evidence. It's funny that if I asked you who are the scientists on "your side" you are more like to find your scientists paid off by big oil or politically driven. Nobody likes carbon tax (other than the collectors), or government regulation (except the government), but just because you don't want it doesn't mean you have to deny the science of global warming.

 

[Nickels]

Bump so more people can learn the truth ^

ignoring responses to it is not learning truth. Or is that what you mean by truth, if so, I'll make sure we add this definition every time you use that word.

 

[Nickels]

Some folks would look rather silly then wouldn't they.

As I recall we had a little cold spell for a few hundred years back in the 14oo's. Lasted until the 1600's. And yes. These fossil fuels would put us in a rather happy state of affairs given that scenario. It's unfortunate that this is seldom brought up. An inconvenient truth in itself.

nobody claimed 1400-1600 was suitable or not for modern lifestyle, nobody claims global warming will "destroy the planet" or "make humans extinct". But I know it doesn't take that for people to angry, afraid or do something. People today are selfish enough that they'll get up if you pull the plug on their TV, not exact the same causes people fought for 200 years ago.

 

[Travlyr]

ignoring responses to it is not learning truth. Or is that what you mean by truth, if so, I'll make sure we add this definition every time you use that word.

Did you watch the video he posted? These guys are climate experts. Why would you dismiss their testimony?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov0WwtPcALE&feature=player_embedded

And where is their discussion on industrial hemp?

 

[Nickels]

Did you watch the video he posted? These guys are climate experts. Why would you dismiss their testimony?

And where is their discussion on industrial hemp?

yes, years ago, and I even read responses to it since. it's YOU who needs to read up on the other side. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle

I don't know enough about industrial hemp, but I probably don't disagree with you. I'm not against legalizing it so far.

 

[Travlyr]

yes, years ago, and I even read responses to it since. it's YOU who needs to read up on the other side. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle

I don't know enough about industrial hemp, but I probably don't disagree with you. I'm not against legalizing it so far.

Years Ago? Well, in recent years the global warming alarmists have been completely discredited. It is a hoax in order to TAX people for breathing.

Just take a few minutes to read the report I posted earlier today. The global warming/climate change propagandists are simply taking research money to promote an agenda. The Earth is actually in cooling phase.

 

[Nickels]

Years Ago? Well, in recent years the global warming alarmists have been completely discredited. It is a hoax in order to TAX people for breathing.

Yes, the movie has been debunked right when it came out. "Well in recent years...." what are the new arguments? Climategate? Give me the latest arguments and we'll see if they've been responded to. (I can see you don't know them, which is why you cling to old refuted arguments and hope I'd just swallow it like you, but ignorance is not a crime, go find them if you want to have a discussion)

Global warming is not a hoax, but there are many forms of alarmism, go pick the strawman you like, I won't play that game. Just because I don't want carbon tax doesn't mean global warming is a hoax. If you actually know the arguments, quote them, or point them to me. Simply saying something is hoax, and has been discredited doesn't cut it (I can say the same thing). I can see you didn't bother reading the responses, because you believe what you want to believe.

 

[Travlyr]

Yes, the movie has been debunked right when it came out.

"Well in recent years...." what are the new arguments? Climategate? Give me the latest arguments and we'll see if they've been responded to.

Global warming is not a hoax, but there are many forms of alarmism, go pick the strawman you like, I won't play that game. Just because I don't want carbon tax doesn't mean global warming is a hoax. If you actually know the arguments, quote them, or point them to me. Simply saying something is hoax, and has been discredited doesn't cut it (I can say the same thing). I can see you didn't bother reading the responses, because you believe what you want to believe.

The argument is very straight forward and simple. The science proves that CO2 levels follow the climate changes and are not the cause of it.

 

[Nickels]

The argument is very straight forward and simple. The science proves that CO2 levels follow the climate changes and are not the cause of it.

Is that the best you got? And you think it's a new one made after the Swindle movie?
http://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-lags-temperature.htm

 

[Zippyjuan]

Hemp can be a useful plant but it will not solve our problems. Food prices? If you grow lots of hemp on an industrial level, you will need lots of land- that would displace cropland. Clean burning? Burning is still dirty. Cleaner than some coals- yes. Definately. It does require more energy to burn since it burns at a higher temperature. It has a limited shelf life so it would need either refrigerated storage (more space and energy being used for the refrigeration) or to be used relatively quickly. Solve our energy needs? I once ran numbers for energy yields from hemp and came up that we would have to plant twice the entire landmass of the US with hemp to replace all of our annual oil comsumption. Nearly every machine which uses petroleum would have to be re-modified or re-designed to use hemp oil (because of its different viscosity and burning temperature issues mentioned earlier) which would cost money to transistion. Useful- yes. Definately. The answer to everything? No. No single product is.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Did you watch the video he posted? These guys are climate experts. Why would you dismiss their testimony?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov0WwtPcALE&feature=player_embedded

And where is their discussion on industrial hemp?

I doubt he watched the video. He keeps linking to rationalwiki, which must be the new haven for mainstream lovers that like to live in fantasy land. I read a few pages over there the other week, independent of his links and found myself constantly laughing at how ridiculous they are with their attempt to cater to people who are afraid of reality.

And Nickels, I have you on ignore. I can't see your posts.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Years Ago? Well, in recent years the global warming alarmists have been completely discredited. It is a hoax in order to TAX people for breathing.

Just take a few minutes to read the report I posted earlier today. The global warming/climate change propagandists are simply taking research money to promote an agenda. The Earth is actually in cooling phase.

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