My Wife is going through Chemo...

Romulus

Member
Joined
Mar 13, 2009
Messages
6,554
She was diagnosed with breast cancer in November. She had surgery to have the mass removed. Stage 2. Nodes negative. After surgery she got off her pain meds from the double mastectomy, she got really, really anxious and depressed about the whole ordeal, reoccurrence and survival. Our general doc put her on a mild anti-depressant which helps her appetite and sleep.

On Friday I shaved her head because her hair was falling out so bad. She kept her for 3 weeks, and the nurse said it would fall out after 5 says. So I look at it like she's handling the Chemo well.

So I have 2 questions.

What else can we use to flush this chemo crap out of the body? Right now she's doing apple cider vinegar 1 or 2 times a day, along with JuicePlus and Goji berry shots and lots of water, green tea and gatorade. We are looking for other options to flush the stuff out.

And what can be done about her depression? She's really anxious about it reoccuring somewhere else in her body down the road. We've done a lot of mental exercises about this, but could still use some feedback.

Thanks.
 
And what can be done about her depression? She's really anxious about it reoccuring somewhere else in her body down the road. We've done a lot of mental exercises about this, but could still use some feedback.

I've dealt with anxiety and depression for my entire life. One of the things I have to keep convincing myself to do is to live life in the present and not worry so much about what's going happen in the future.

You wife's not alone in these worries. I personally worry about catching cancer a lot myself and sometimes have a hard time keeping those worries at bay.

In fact I wish everybody were worried about getting cancer much more than worrying about things like Iran threatening Israel. Sorry for the bit of politics, but what I'm saying is that your wife is actually very sane for her worries and the rest of us are insane for worrying about other less important things. Worry is a natural self-defense mechanism. I personally find that if I can accept the natural state of worry and not let it feedback to become a crisis, I feel better.
 
Cannabis will help with the depression, lack of appetite, and help with the pain. She doesn't have to smoke it either. I am not sure where you are but you may want to try and locate some. I smuggled some to my father who has stage 4 pancreatic cancer and it helped him but the chemo has wasted him away and he is very close to the end now. It sounds like your wife may just bounce back but she will have to deal with the fear associated with it hitting somewhere else because emotions play a big role in health. Try to find things to distract her from thinking about cancer. I taught my father the inner smile meditation which helped him and he really enjoyed it. http://www.universal-tao.com/article/the_inner_smile.html



I do it as well daily and it really helps with emotional issues. I wish you guys the best and your wife a speedy recovery.
 
Last edited:
She was diagnosed with breast cancer in November. She had surgery to have the mass removed. Stage 2. Nodes negative. After surgery she got off her pain meds from the double mastectomy, she got really, really anxious and depressed about the whole ordeal, reoccurrence and survival. Our general doc put her on a mild anti-depressant which helps her appetite and sleep.

On Friday I shaved her head because her hair was falling out so bad. She kept her for 3 weeks, and the nurse said it would fall out after 5 says. So I look at it like she's handling the Chemo well.

So I have 2 questions.

What else can we use to flush this chemo crap out of the body? Right now she's doing apple cider vinegar 1 or 2 times a day, along with JuicePlus and Goji berry shots and lots of water, green tea and gatorade. We are looking for other options to flush the stuff out.

And what can be done about her depression? She's really anxious about it reoccuring somewhere else in her body down the road. We've done a lot of mental exercises about this, but could still use some feedback.

Thanks.

How to Detox Your Body of Depleted Uranium Residues, the Effects of Radiation, and Radioactive Contamination

http://www.radiationdetox.com/depleted-uranium-detox.htm


It's sad but true that there are thousands of scientific references and medical studies out there on the fact that radiation and radioactivity can harm you, yet despite millions of dollars spent by the government to study radiation, virtually nothing is available about a detoxification diet or nutritional supplements you might use if you are exposed to radioactive contamination.

Here's some of the information we do know from the only book in the world on the topic. Keep this information in the back of your mind as it may one day help save you or someone you know.

Most people are aware taking potassium iodide (KI) or potassium iodate (KIO3) tablets will help block your thyroid gland from absorbing radioactive iodine should there ever be a dirty bomb explosion or nuclear power plant mishap such as the Three Mile Island incident. In 1999, another such accident happened in Tokaimura, Japan where several individuals died from radiation exposure in a fuel processing facility.

What people don't recognize is that potassium iodide or iodate tablets only protect the thyroid gland and do not provide protection from any other radiation exposure, so taking them should not give you a false sense of security. It's important to detox your body after radioactive exposure!

One question is, what do you do if KI or KIO3 tablets aren't available during an emergency? Interestingly enough, according to research by Ken Miller, health physicist at the Hershey Medical Center, he found that an adult could get a blocking dose of stable iodine by painting 8 ml of a 2 percent tincture of Iodine on the abdomen or forearm approximately 2 hours prior to I-131 contamination. Potassium iodine tablets are best, but if they're not available this is the next best thing.

An entirely different problem arises after you've been exposed to radioactive contamination because now you have to get rid of any radioactive particles you may have ingested through the air you breathed, water you drank, or food you ate. Some people suggest Epson salt, Clorox or clay baths to remove any residues on your skin and to leach out any heavy metals you may have absorbed, but the big worry is internal contamination. To gain some insights into what to do, we have to turn to the story of the atomic bombing of Nagasaki.

At the time of the atomic bombing, Tatsuichiro Akizuki, M.D. was Director of the Department of Internal Medicine at St. Francis's Hospital in Nagasaki and he fed his staff and patients a strict diet of brown rice, miso and tamari soy soup, wakame, kombu and other seaweed, Hokkaido pumpkin, and sea salt. He also prohibited the consumption of sugar and sweets since they suppress the immune system.

By imposing this diet on his staff and patients, no one succumbed to radiation poisoning whereas the occupants of hospitals located much further away from the blast incident suffered severe radiation fatalities.

Much of this positive result has to do with the fact that the sea vegetables contain substances that bind radioactive particles and escort them out of the body. This is why seaweed sales usually skyrocket after radiation disasters, and why various seaweeds and algae are typically used to treat radiation victims.

In Chernobyl, for instance, spirulina was used to help save many children from radiation poisoning. By taking 5 grams of spirulina a day for 45 days, the Institute of Radiation Medicine in Minsk even proved that children on this protocol experienced enhanced immune systems, T-cell counts and reduced radioactivity. Israeli scientists have since treated Chernobyl children with doses of natural beta carotene from Dunaliella algae and proved that it helped normalize their blood chemistry. Chlorella algae, a known immune system builder and heavy metal detoxifier, has also shown radioprotective effects. Because they bind heavy metals, algae should therefore be consumed after exposure to any type of radioactive contamination.

In 1968 a group of Canadian researchers at McGill University of Montreal, headed by Dr. Stanley Skoryna, actually set out to devise a method to counteract the effects of nuclear fallout. The key finding from their studies was that sea vegetables contained a polysaccharide substance, called sodium alginate, which selectively bound radioactive strontium and eliminated it from the body.

Sodium alginate is found in many seaweeds, especially kelp, and since that time the Russians have been seriously researching the use of their own kelps from Vladivlostok, from which they have isolated the polysaccharide U-Fucoidan, which is another radioactive detoxifier. Because miso soup was so effective in helping prevent radiation sickness, the Japanese have also done research identifying the presence of an active ingredient called zybicolin, discovered in 1972, which acts as a binding agent to also detoxify and eliminate radioactive elements (such as strontium) and other pollutants from the body.

The kelps and algaes aren't the only natural foods with radio-detoxifying effects. In terms of fluids to drink, black and green tea have shown "radioprotective effects" whether consumed either before or after exposure to radiation. This anti-radiation effect was observed in several Japanese studies, and studies from China also suggest that the ingredients in tea are radioactive antagonists.

In short, after any sort of radioactive exposure you want to be eating seaweeds and algaes along with almost any type of commercial heavy metal chelating formula to bind radioactive particles and help escort them out of the body. Whether you're worried about depleted uranium, plutonium or other isotopes, this is the wise thing to do which can possibly help, and certainly won't hurt. Many nutritional supplements have been developed for the purpose of detoxifying heavy metals, most of which contain the algaes and plant fibers and other binding substances.

Basically, an anti-radiation diet should focus on the following foods:

· Miso soup
· Spirulina, chlorella and the algaes (kelp, etc.)
· Brassica vegetables and high beta carotene vegetables
· Beans and lentils
· Potassium, calcium and mineral rich foods
· High nucleotide content foods to assist in cellular repair including spirulina, chlorella, algae, yeast, sardines, liver, anchovies and mackerel
· Cod liver oil and olive oil
· Avoid sugars and sweets and wheat
· A good multivitamin/multimineral supplement


Yet another benefit of the sea vegetables rarely discussed is their high mineral content, which is a bonus in the case of radioactive exposure. Consuming natural iodine, such as in the seaweeds, helps prevent the uptake of iodine-131 while iron inhibits the absorption of plutonium-238 and plutonium-239. Vitamin B-12 inhibits cobalt-60 uptake (used in nuclear medicine), zinc inhibits zinc-65 uptake and sulfur is preventative for sulfur-35 (a product of nuclear reactors) incorporation by the body.

Since nuclear workers are potentially exposed to radioactive sulfur, this means that workers in the atomic power industry need a higher content of sulfur in their diet. MSM supplements provide a source of dietary sulfur, but thiol supplements such as cysteine, lipoic acid and glutathione serve double-duty in this area because they help detoxify the body and attack all sorts of other health problems as well.

The immune system is usually hit hard after radiation exposure, and a number of steps can be taken to help prevent opportunistic infections after a radioactive incident. Though the full dimensions of the protective mechanism is still unknown, Siberian ginseng is one form of ginseng that exerts a definite radioprotective effect and has been demonstrated to lessen the side effects of radiation. It was widely distributed by the Soviet Union to those exposed Chernobyl radiation and is commonly used to help cancer patients undergoing radiation therapy.

Consuming Reishi mushrooms is another proven way to bolster your immune system after radiation exposure and helps reduce the damage from radiation. It's been used to decrease radiation sickness in animals and help them recover faster after potentially deadly exposure.

Panax ginseng has prevented hemorrhaging after radiation exposure, prevents bone marrow death and stimulates blood cell formation, so it's another supplement to add to one's protocol. In short, yeasts, beta glucans, bee pollen and various forms of ginseng have all been shown to bolster the immune system after radiation incidents. In terms of radiation burns, aloe vera has a proven ability to treat serious radiation burns and offers other radioprotective effects, and can easily be grown in your house.

The amino acid L-Glutamine can be used to help repair the intestine in case of the gastrointestinal syndrome usually suffered due to radiation exposure, and a variety of substances can help rebuild blood cells to prevent hematopoietic syndrome. Those particular foods include beet juice, liver extract, spleen extract, and shark alkyglycerols. Most oncologists don't know that shark liver oil, with alkyglycerols, can help platelet counts rebound in days.

Depleted uranium is currently in the journalistic spotlight because US weapons are made from this material, and after being fired leave a legacy of depleted uranium dust in the environment, which anyone can absorb. Because the kidneys are usually the first organs to show chemical damage upon uranium exposure, military manuals suggest doses or infusions of sodium bicarbonate to help alkalinize the urine if this happens. This makes the uranyl ion less kidney-toxic and promotes excretion of the nontoxic uranium carbonate complex.

In areas contaminated by depleted uranium dusts, it therefore makes sense to switch to drinking slightly alkaline water and to favor a non-acidic diet to assist in this detoxification. Any of the heavy metal detoxifiers, such as miso soup, chlorella, spirulina and seaweeds, are also commonsense warranted.

Another thing you can do is use homeopathics for radiation exposure. People commonly argue over whether homeopathics work or not, but if you assume the position that they produce no results whatsoever then you must also assume that they certainly won't hurt you, which means the only loss from using them is a few dollars. Frankly, there are countless cases and double-blind studies where homeopathic tinctures do provoke physical healing effects in the body. Therefore they are a viable adjunct treatment option. One homeopathic, in particular, is URANIUM NITRICUM (nitrate of uranium) which homeopaths suggest should be used in cases of depleted uranium exposure or uranium poisoning. Not just soldiers or civilians exposed to battlefield dusts, but uranium miners and radiation workers may find it quite useful.

While we've discussed just a few of the many supplements and protocols you can use to help detox the body of the lingering results of radioactive contamination, including the residues of depleted uranium, the last thing that might be of interest is that there is a plant that is a natural geiger counter. The spiderwort plant is so sensitive to changes in radiation levels (its petals change color upon exposure) that it's often used as a natural radiation detector (dosimeter), just as they use canaries in mines as detectors of poisonous gas. Some people like knowing that they have an ongoing monitoring system for radiation in the environment, and this is just another tip available in "How to Neutralize the Harmful Effects of Radiation or Radioactive Exposure."

*********************************************************

For depression, Valerian Root. Kava-Kava is good. L-Theanine is also excellent to help calm people.

I will keep her in my prayers.
 
I'm really sorry to hear about this. Chemo is so devastating. I'd say keep doing what you're doing with the natural supplements.

For the future, try making yourself some cannabis oil. You've probably seen the Rick Simpson documentary and the success he had with it. He is in hiding somewhere in Europe now. There are others who carry on his legacy by treating cancer patients with it. It can also help depression. Of course it's all underground and hush hush so the medical establishment and FDA doesn't chase people down. Check here (and related forums) to get started.
 
Get her a far infrared sauna. You can by the blanket type at promolife for under 400.00 bucks Works like a charm. She'll get bright red areas around the wounds, but that's from the sauna pulling out toxins from the anesthesia.

Link to sauna blanket.

The good thing about the FIR is it will detox at very low temperatures. So, even if she isn't sweating, she's still receiving the benefits of detoxing. good luck.
 
Last edited:
Romulus

(((((BIGHUG))))))) to your wife and you. It sounds like you are being very supportive of her. If it was me I would be eating only organic foods and I would move to a state where medical marijuana was legal.

Personally, I would not ever accept and option like chemo and probably not surgery either. I would rather take my chances with my own methods. Of course I am kinda down on main stream anything including medicine.

I do feel that healing has more to do with beliefs than the method. I hope your wife really believes she is doing what is best for her. I encourage you to encourage her to believe along those lines.(that she has chosen what is best for her) Because I am sure the chemo is weakening her and that is probably making her feel depressed.

Your wife and you will be in my thoughts and prayers.
 
Last edited:
Get her a far infrared sauna. You can by the blanket type at promolife for under 400.00 bucks Works like a charm. She'll get bright red areas around the wounds, but that's from the sauna pulling out toxins from the anesthesia.

Link to sauna blanket.

The good thing about the FIR is it will detox at very low temperatures. So, even if she isn't sweating, she's still receiving the benefits of detoxing. good luck.

No sugar, no bad oil, no gluten, nothing that can cause inflammation.
 
my prayers will be with you both buddy ( I like coral calcium to prevent further cancer and general health )
 
I really don't know what more I could add to any of these posts or to your general concerns. I can only say that my heart goes out to your wife and to you. Positive thoughts of total recovery and inner strength to the both of you.
 
Sorry to hear Romulus, and as for the answers, the ones given so far a really great and they posted all I was going to say. Hope your wife makes a full recovery quick.

Only thing I can add is get her off the anti-depressant as they are just horrible for you.
 
Last edited:
NaturalNews.com

Read everything you can there. Lots of great infofor immune support, regenerative diets, etc.

Lots of negative info on chemo there, I would probably skip those since it is the course you are on.
 
as for depression, I don't generally recommend drugs unless all others fail, like somebody said here before, sunshine, I think companionship, sex, humorous cartoons help. But it comes down to what her actual concerns are.

What is she afraid of, or unhappy about? If she's worried it'll reoccur, tell her if it does, she has the best husband and hospital waiting to fix it.
 
She was diagnosed with breast cancer in November. She had surgery to have the mass removed. Stage 2. Nodes negative. After surgery she got off her pain meds from the double mastectomy, she got really, really anxious and depressed about the whole ordeal, reoccurrence and survival. Our general doc put her on a mild anti-depressant which helps her appetite and sleep.

On Friday I shaved her head because her hair was falling out so bad. She kept her for 3 weeks, and the nurse said it would fall out after 5 says. So I look at it like she's handling the Chemo well.

Sorry to hear it. We just finished 6 months of chemo for the same, only stage 3a. Chemo is rough stuff. Radiation is also not a cake walk by any means.

So I have 2 questions.

What else can we use to flush this chemo crap out of the body? Right now she's doing apple cider vinegar 1 or 2 times a day, along with JuicePlus and Goji berry shots and lots of water, green tea and gatorade. We are looking for other options to flush the stuff out.

Do what you like, but I think it is a waste of time. Of course it partly depends on the chemo. Mine had the worst of the worst - adriamycin, cytoxan, and taxol. The first two are horrifically toxic, the latter far less so, but still bad stuff. The only thing that is going to help is time. Numbness, if present, will take several months and may never abate completely. Different people react differently.

And what can be done about her depression? She's really anxious about it reoccuring somewhere else in her body down the road. We've done a lot of mental exercises about this, but could still use some feedback.

Nothing will drive me to take pills, but I would not tell anyone else not to. But be aware that these chemicals can wreak havoc with one's health and have been positively linked to all manner of trouble including birth defects.

My view on this is that if she can tough it out, then do so. That is what my wife did. I don't know how she managed it except to say that she is tougher than any 3 other human beings you could possibly name put together. If I am ever diagnosed with cancer, I will let it take me because having born witness to what she went through I can tell you that there is no way I would ever go through it.

Anyhow, if she really cannot bear it, then go whatever route will make the path navigable for her.

One thing she should know is that prognoses for stage 2 disease are generally VERY good. This is especially so given there is no nodular or vascular invasion. If her markers are negative, even better. My wife was staged 3a, advanced stage 3 just prior to stage 4 and even her prognosis is guardedly optimistic, particularly because there was no vascular involvement. Her radiation treatments reduce her statistical likelihood of recurrence from 30% to about 8%, which is pretty good, considering. Stage 2 is a LOT rosier.

Finally, the worry is pointless. Recurrence will either happen or not. Good nutrition is key as is ATTITUDE. If she spends her resources, mental and physical, fretting then she could be building a self-fulfilling prophecy. I don't know how old you guys are but after a certain age many lose the fear of death they hold when younger - and I mean precisely this sort of fear of such diseases and the sort that are commonly regarded as "premature" when occurring before some vaguely defined age. This fear can wreck a person and all I can recommend there is to face it and conquer it. Far more easily said than done. I am married to a most uncommonly tough and brave woman. She has made it look easy, but I hold no illusions of just how miserable such circumstances can be. I have lived through it as well in a manner of speaking and it is clear to me what an ordeal this horrible disease is.

Stare the fear in the face and say "no". Simply refuse it. It is a matter of will. Fretting and hand-wringing will avail her nothing. I wish I had an easier solution for you. This experience has left a profound mark on me and I would not wish this on anyone. Not even Obama.

Oh, try to find things to laugh about. Watch the idiot box and laugh at how ridiculously stupid people can be. Humor makes a big difference.

Best wishes to you and your wife. Treat her well.

PS: Wife says drink LOTS of water. Also, if your wife is receiving steroids with her treatments, get a glucose monitor and check her blood sugar as diabetes is a common side-effect. My wife has been in the hospital twice since last July. She spend Christmas and New Year in with a very severe pneumonia. It was a blessing in disguise as they discovered glucose level of 304. She now gets insulin once a day and we are hoping in time with good diet she will revert to normal, but that is not guaranteed by any means. Be VERY watchful of this as the earlier on you catch it, the better. The oncologist will want her to eat like a pig to keep her weight on. I would suggest a low sugar/low carb diet NOW to help her system not be driven into Type II.... that is if she is getting the steroids.

Good luck.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top