My take on Trump after Ron Paul 2012.

[CPUd]

it was sarcasm. you implied like the Liberal MSN that Trump is a Nazi because you are using words like Gestapo and SS to discredit me and anyone that supports Trump.
Typically liberal.

It is not worth arguing with people like that.

I think what he was trying to say is that Trump's camp is worse than the Gestapo and SS.

 

[LibertyEagle]

To the OP:

Seems your "single issue" is deporting 12-20 illegal immigrants and love Trump's idea of having a deportation force that would put the SS and Gestapo to shame. By definition, they would be kicking in door after door, ripping families apart, and sending them back to a country many of whom have not been to for decades... and this would take YEARS and BILLIONS of dollars. Seems you also support Trump's plan for building a wall at the border and using the PATRIOT Act, Anti-Terrorism Statutes, and executive authority to unilaterally decide who can send THEIR MONEY to who, in order to coerce Mexico to pay for it....

Seems you also think murdering innocent family members of terrorists is just fine and that torture is A-OK...

You must also agree that internment camps under FDR are wonderful and should be a model for dealing with Muslim Americans...

You are NO FRIEND OF LIBERTY. Quick trying to portray yourself as such.

Trump didn't say that.

Tell me, are you for allowing crimigrants to stay in our country, sucking at the government teat and encouraging more and more to illegally enter? Because I am thinking that those who are, should be responsible for those who are murdered and maimed at their hands, not to mention responsible for the money they cost each of us.

Because if you do stand for it, you are no friend of liberty, either.

 

[CPUd]

Meet Trump’s Deportation Force Superhero Team!
Zack Zagranis PUBLISHED November 12, 2015


Deportation Force

Wednesday morning, Donald Trump stated on MSNBC that he would address illegal immigration with his own “deportation force.” Now, Trump has teamed up exclusively with Marvel Comics to bring “Deportation Force” to life as a comic book! The series follows a team of four superheroes on a mission to round up every illegal alien in the US and send ‘em packing. Runt Of The Web has an exclusive first look at the team!

The Billionaire – A character based on Trump himself, the Billionaire has sworn to use his vast fortune to help rid America of “The Evil Mexicans/Rapists” and any other undocumented immigrants who oppose him.

Powers – Money, superior wall building skills, and the Comb-Over of Doom.

Battle Cry – “Let’s make America great again,” “Deportation Force, Assemble!”

Tea-Party Monster – The team’s muscle, Tea-Party Monster is a hulking behemoth of intolerance and ignorance; a lethal combination for his foes. Lurks in comment sections and family barbecues.

Powers – The Tea-Party Monster gets stronger the angrier he gets about taxes and the government. The quickest way to fire him up is to tell him Fox News is biased, or tag him in a post about the 50 Cutest Gay Weddings on Facebook.

Battle Cry – “ Tea-Party Monster crush puny liberals, want small government with large involvement!”

Captain Conservative – A humanoid created by combining the DNA of Ronald Reagan and Rush Limbaugh, Captain Conservative is a hero to oppressed, white, Christian males and unborn babies of America. The Captain won’t rest until the country is safe for decent, God-fearing whites, even if it means he has to drag every damn Mexican back over the border himself.

Powers – Captain Conservative has no super powers per-se, but he’s good at kicking people once the Tea-Party Monster knocks them down.

Battle Cry – “If you don’t like it here, LEAVE!”

Minorigirl – Minorigirl is the token minority of Deportation Force. Her presence proves that the other three members aren’t racists or misogynists. How could they be, if they have a black woman on the team? Though none of the rest of them would actually vote for her, she’s doing good things for their image.

Powers – Gives other Deportation Force members ability to say “I have black friends”; flight.

Battle Cry: “ALL Lives Matter.”

http://runt-of-the-web.com/meet-trumps-deportation-force-superhero-team

 

[LibertyEagle]

Cute.

An alternative would be to deport them as they present themselves. Now, it's just catch and release.

 

[jllundqu]

Trump didn't say that.

Tell me, are you for allowing crimigrants to stay in our country, sucking at the government teat and encouraging more and more to illegally enter? Because I am thinking that those who are, should be responsible for those who are murdered and maimed at their hands, not to mention responsible for the money they cost each of us.

Because if you do stand for it, you are no friend of liberty, either.

I've posted MANY threads on what I think the solution to the illegal immigration problem in this country should be. Complicated (I used to work for US Immigration) but here is the basic summary:

1. Deport criminal aliens (ones in US Jails, prisons, and those we know have a criminal record but released by ICE)
2. Give Remaining Illegal Aliens in the US a choice: Option A - If they want US Citizenship, they can self deport to country of origin, then apply for LEGAL entry at the end of the line (after fines and taxes, etc.)

-- OR --

3. Amend the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) so If they want to stay in the country, they can be given lawful permanent residency (LPR Status) but will NEVER BE ALLOWED to become US Citizens (Can't vote, own firearms, etc). This would also keep them deportable so if they commit crimes while here under LPR status, they will still be deported.

Chain migration, visa waivers, etc would all have to be changed, but this is the nuts and bolts of it.

Doing the above would solve all the current problems WITHOUT having to recruit a "Deportation Force" that would forcibly remove tens of millions of people from the US. But I wouldn't expect a Trump supporter to think about actual policy positions like the above....

 

[LibertyEagle]

I've posted MANY threads on what I think the solution to the illegal immigration problem in this country should be. Complicated (I used to work for US Immigration) but here is the basic summary:

1. Deport criminal aliens (ones in US Jails, prisons, and those we know have a criminal record but released by ICE)
2. Give Remaining Illegal Aliens in the US a choice: Option A - If they want US Citizenship, they can self deport to country of origin, then apply for LEGAL entry at the end of the line (after fines and taxes, etc.)

-- OR --

3. Amend the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) so If they want to stay in the country, they can be given lawful permanent residency (LPR Status) but will NEVER BE ALLOWED to become US Citizens (Can't vote, own firearms, etc). This would also keep them deportable so if they commit crimes while here under LPR status, they will still be deported.

Chain migration, visa waivers, etc would all have to be changed, but this is the nuts and bolts of it.

Doing the above would solve all the current problems WITHOUT having to recruit a "Deportation Force" that would forcibly remove tens of millions of people from the US.

I was actually going to say something positive about what you wrote, and then you had to post this. vv

But I wouldn't expect a Trump supporter to think about actual policy positions like the above....

Was an insult really necessary?

 

[Bryan]

Let's please keep this civil and not make personal accusations. Excellent points can be made without declaing what someone is or isn't.

This is a dicy discussion, but it can be done respectfully. Thanks.

 

[TomtheTinker]

I am so $#@!ing tired of hearing this lie you trump supporters tell us. It has been proved Trump supported both the Iraq wars and the Libyan wars from the beginning. That is NOT non interventionist.

This

 

[TomtheTinker]

That is a pretty spot on observation. However this forum is not a good indication of "Ron Paul supporters" as a whole. There just happens to be a small loud contingent of Trump hater spammers here. Some may or may not be Paul supporters at all and some I suspect are actually being paid.

I meant to neg. Rep you. But none the less this statement is beyond ridiculous.

 

[erowe1]

I was with Ron Paul since 2008 and 2012. I loved him and lost friendships because of him. He was great but lacked what Trump has.

Specifically, corruption.

 

[erowe1]

it was sarcasm. you implied like the Liberal MSN that Trump is a Nazi because you are using words like Gestapo and SS to discredit me and anyone that supports Trump.
Typically liberal.

It is not worth arguing with people like that.

There's nothing liberal about implying that Trump is a Nazi. But if liberals want to join us in saying that, we should welcome them to the fold.

 

[erowe1]

Tell me, are you for allowing crimigrants to stay in our country, sucking at the government teat and encouraging more and more to illegally enter?

Trump's own amnesty plan encourages more and more to enter illegally. If being against amnesty were important to you, you'd support Cruz.

 

[tony m]

Influencing others is our job. Any seeds we can plant is good.

We have Assemblyman Dave DiPietro in New York state, who was with us in bringing Ron Paul to Western New York in 2011. Dave has had much personal contact with Trump over the last two years.

Trump, I am sure is listening and he just may be open to influence than those already tied into the system.

Libertarian author, attorney, and activist Jim Ostrowski, who was the main man in bringing Dr. Paul to Buffalo, has been putting it out there that we have an ear with Trump. That is not a bad thing.

We will not get much headway without getting to those from the other sides.

 

[mikey]

I love Trump for one reason, not his policies, but his strategy, this man is making all our political enemies quiver in fear. This strategy should be analysed, studied, and applied.

Talking about things outside the overton window has given him great success at capturing an electorate most people didn't know existed.

The whole reason Ron Paul turned some heads was because he said something so outlandish at the time, the MSM was forced to cover him.


As Libertarians we believe in some pretty "crazy" things, things that might make some people that are disenfranchised, see us as the biggest threat to the ruling class.

Use your first amendment right to the fullest extent and who the fuck cares that a bunch of 'liberal indoctrination day care students' call you fucking names.