My Last Post On The March Until The Official Word Is Given.

[Evazan]

Let me ask you again what course of action do you propose once your mission of "waking people up" is over? Inciting Riots? Revolution?

This election and march is about a shift in paradigm. We are trying to change the thought process of the people in this country from that of a nanny state loving, media controlled sheeple, to free thinking lovers of liberty. You are far to focused on the white house. Once people start to think differently the white house will follow suit.

Maybe they will remember 4 years from now and we can try again?

This comment alone shows that you don't fully understand this process. This is the very beginning of a long fight which will not end if RP isn't elected. It will continue all the way through the next election cycle and Ron Paul Republicans will be fighting for seats in congress. This is merely the beginning.

Since I became a Ron Paul supporter I have been working on converting my Mother. She was a very hard case predominately due to her neocon views on the war on terror and her refusal to listen to reason. I sent her one last email the day before the primaries asking her for her vote. She responded back the next day saying she voted for Ron Paul but only because she felt bad that I was ineligible to vote in the primaries. I would like to compare this to another story. At my polling location there was a gentlemen I got into a discussion with about Ron Paul versus Huckabee. In the end he decided he still didn't know enough about RP and was still going to vote for Huckabee, but I got him to take literature and a RP DVD which he promised he would watch.

In my mind the second person was a much much greater victory even though we didn't get his vote. The same analogy can be compared to this march. Educating people on the ideals of freedom and liberty is 100 times more valuable then getting those people to vote for Ron Paul just because they see he has support.

Do you stand for a man or for principles? If you stand for principles you will be at the march regardless of what the date is.

 

[NoPants]

Its about the message.

-Limited Government
-Low Taxes
-Following the constitution
-Liberty
-No aggressive ,pre-emptive , undeclared wars..

etc.

Alot of people like those ideals, but for some reason dont support Ron Paul (or any candidate for that matter). Yes, it should be heavily Ron Paul/his message on the day. But we need to encourage a big tent. I'd bet about 30% of the people who would turn up ,who did not support Ron Paul, would be turned into Ron Paul supporters from just this event. Its about gathering support as much as it is about showing our numbers. Showing our numbers is nice and all , but doesnt really do anything to further our fight.

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Bingo! Tell them what they've won... it's a beautiful new government!

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[Bruno]

well if its may 25 i have tickets to a nascar (coca cola 600)race, but will sell them in a heartbeat to go to this march.

Sounds like you would have your gas money taken care of!

 

[wildflower]

I do like your idea for April 19th. It still leaves a few states left to vote. It could give us a big finish.

I hope it's not April 19. That day is evil, a lot of bad stuff always happens on or near that day. The Waco massacre, Oklahoma city bombing, school shootings, etc. BAD day.

 

[Deborah K]

Ron Paul stated in the video and has stated time and time again, that this is not about one man, this is about a message.

 

[Charles Wilson]

Please check out the following and choose one of the two dates. I chose Memorial Day as my first choice. http://www.revolutionmarch.com/

 

[UnitedWeStand]

I watched the video again just a few minutes ago to make sure I did not misunderstand what was said. It seemed to me that the idea was to bring publicity to the campaign to show our numbers and have a similar effect as the money bombs.

Those of you who say that this march is not about Ron Paul did not watch the same video released by the official campaign that I did.

I think a march is a great idea but if you ask me timing is critical, this needs to happen before the primary process is finished.

There has to be a reason this is happening. We have to have a clear goal. That goal is to get Ron Paul elected. The media will see it as such if we are well organized and we do it BEFORE the primaries are over.

I think doing it after is dangerous. There is no clear reason as to why we would should be there demonstrating. We do not want to appear as the farmers with pitchforks and torches, which is what we will look like with no clear goal. They could spin it any way they wanted.

It would only take a few government plants or even crazy minded supporters to turn it into a VERY bad situation for all.

I am all for CHANGE but please be smart about it. I was not happy at all about Alex Jones leading RP to say July 4th not to mention refering to US (His Supporters) as an army.

I agree so much with this post. I know some might not be able to make it if is during school days..but it needs to be on a weekend anyway or it will fall on people's workdays as well.

I wish so much that everyone would stop pushing for this to be in the summertime, after the primaries are 100% over.

 

[Luft97]

Wow, ok where should I begin?

Soooo, what does that statement make you? If you are as hardcore as you say you are....you would go regardless of the date. Don't claim to be a hardcore RP supporter then act like a baby if the date you want isn't what you get. If you refuse to go after June 3rd....I'm sure all of us fair weather piece of shit supporters will manage without you.

I am not in this for the glory or a feel good party. I am looking for results. I think a positive campaign rally is better than an after the fact demonstration. Maybe you should all stop thinking about what is best for your personal schedule and start thinking about what is best for the campaign and Ron Paul's message.

This election and march is about a shift in paradigm. We are trying to change the thought process of the people in this country from that of a nanny state loving, media controlled sheeple, to free thinking lovers of liberty. You are far to focused on the white house. Once people start to think differently the white house will follow suit.

I still don't see how this helps us. Let's see you want to show people the truth in a demonstration, which most likely will be misunderstood, and even if they do understand since they have no immediate course of action they are to remain dormant for a few years until the next election cycle.

This comment alone shows that you don't fully understand this process. This is the very beginning of a long fight which will not end if RP isn't elected. It will continue all the way through the next election cycle and Ron Paul Republicans will be fighting for seats in congress. This is merely the beginning.

Oh I understand, but in my mind it is not practical. I am not as optimistic as some of you are that the political climate here in the US will be the same 4 years from now and despite the fact that so many of you want to attack me for my position on this I worry about the possible outcome of a "Demonstration".

Think about it. You would get better results from:

A) A campaign rally with everyone focused on Ron Paul and his message of freedom. Showing the remaining voters that he does have a real support base.

B) A very large demonstration with no clear focus on anything except everything that is wrong with America. Maybe you could go with a huge anti-war demonstration?

But then you have this:
"I have issued an Executive Order blocking property of persons determined to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq or undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people."

In substance, under this executive order, opposing the war becomes an illegal act.

So are you willing to bet the farm that Bush wouldn't decide to use this trump card since you are on his doorstep?

Even if that was not the case I can see how scenario B could turn out badly. Whereas a political rally for a real candidate, running for office, spreading his message would have focus and be somewhat protected.

 

[UnitedWeStand]

My analogy=

Say we are all routing for the underdog high school football team. There is nothing, nothing wrong with having a huge pep rally for the team the night beforethe big game. It encourages the players, the coach and the students. It is seen as patriotic to the community.

but....

the day after the last playoff game, we shouldn't go to the other high school and have a demonstration with megaphones, signs and disgruntled fans. This is seen by the community much differently than the aforementioned pep rally.

Basically, please support the idea that we need to march during the primary season (even if its the night before the last game=).

 

[Luft97]

My analogy=

Say we are all routing for the underdog high school football team. There is nothing, nothing wrong with having a huge pep rally for the team the night beforethe big game. It encourages the players, the coach and the students. It is seen as patriotic to the community.

but....

the day after the last playoff game, we shouldn't go to the other high school and have a demonstration with megaphones, signs and disgruntled fans. This is seen by the community much differently than the aforementioned pep rally.

Basically, please support the idea that we need to march during the primary season (even if its the night before the last game=).

Very good analogy, I certainly hope that people understand the situation before us and do not pressure the campaign into making a bad decision.

 

[wgadget]

His book comes out April 30...Anytime in May is optimal.

Also, rates are cheaper before the summer rush.

 

[newbitech]

Luft97

I would prefer scenario B.) to be honest. If that scenario plays out, and our countrymen simply roll over and remain asleep, well that makes scenario A.) pretty much moot does it not?

Regarding the football analogy and the primaries. Sorry this doesn't make sense. Our candidate at this point is a community college and our competitors are LSU. We are playing for spirit only here and the off chance that some miracle occurs at the convention. Our rally will be held before the convention.

We are by no means conceding the remaining state primaries by not holding rallies before them. Why should the football team care about cheerleader practice?

 

[Luft97]

Luft97

I would prefer scenario B.) to be honest. If that scenario plays out, and our countrymen simply roll over and remain asleep, well that makes scenario A.) pretty much moot does it not?

Regarding the football analogy and the primaries. Sorry this doesn't make sense. Our candidate at this point is a community college and our competitors are LSU. We are playing for spirit only here and the off chance that some miracle occurs at the convention. Our rally will be held before the convention.

We are by no means conceding the remaining state primaries by not holding rallies before them. Why should the football team care about cheerleader practice?

I disagree.. To keep this a peaceful rally there has to be focus on something positive like helping Ron in some shape or form. You can wake up people that still have yet to vote in scenario A and at the same time keep a respectable appearance. I would attend a Rally like this.

I think a fight the power protest is a bad idea. I won't be a part of it. I am in a situation where I could go any time, day, at the drop of a hat. But as I said before, I think about consequences and I realise there are better plans to initiate change in our government than a mob style demonstration.

 

[VoteForRonPaul]

This was sent to me through my meet-up group. We need to decide if we want it to be only for Ron Paul or for "freedom in general"

Moms for Ron Paul and Libertarian Moms Groups have been kicking around the date: April 19, 2008 (a Saturday).

April 19th 1775: Minutemen Capt John Parker orders not to fire unless fired upon. A shot is fired and the American revolution begins at the Lexington Common. That was the "shot heard round the world"

Ron Paul represents freedom so I see no difference here

 

[Bruce4Ron]

Why the hell does anyone need RON PAUL to do this??????

What has this movement said to you in your mind and heart?! That is all you need people. That is all the motivation you need to do the right thing. The very thing your Declaration of Independence and Constitution granted you the right to do!!!

Ron Paul doesn't even need to show up! JUST DO IT !!!!!!

 

[kirkblitz]

on the date thing, i think it would have to be at least mid to late may. Most colleges are in session then having finals. I myself couldnt just get up and skip my finals, it would cost me the whole semester.

 

[Luft97]

Why the hell does anyone need RON PAUL to do this??????

What has this movement said to you in your mind and heart?! That is all you need people. That is all the motivation you need to do the right thing. The very thing your Declaration of Independence and Constitution granted you the right to do!!!

Ron Paul doesn't even need to show up! JUST DO IT !!!!!!

Maybe you should go start your own forum called WHOTHEHELLNEEDSRONPAULFORUMS.COM and stop hijacking this movement. Last I saw this was RonPaulForums.COM

Your statement shows that you are not in this to bring about real political change. It shows that you want to have a protest against "The Man" and spark off some kind of revolution.

What you and so many others that think along these lines do not realise is that this is reckless (A non political Ron Paul rally) for those of us that are real patriots.

Where are all the voices of reason? They got tired of getting attacked I guess.

He that fights and runs away, may turn and fight another day; but he that is in battle slain, will never rise to fight again.~Tacitus