My email from Frank Luntz

[josh24601]

I've heard the same thing from a lot of people, actually.

A lot of RP's supporters are ironically a giant anchor around his neck.

Nothing the rest of us can do except try to remain positive and rational and hope it wins out over all of the vitriol.

 

[Energy]

It's possible these "threats" are from agent provocateurs.

On the other hand, it's too naive to dislike a candidate because of the candidate's supporters.

 

[OldBookGuy]

What?

email bomb, break his black berry.

OK, that is EXACTLY what he is talking about, lets be rational and maybe try some sugar, afterall, vinegar is not working.

Lets TRY and get some GOOD PR?!

obg

 

[slantedview]

"I shouldnt acknowledge this, but i agree with a lot of what paul says"

Why shouldn't he acknowledge that? Will Fox be angry with him?

 

[josh24601]

OK, that is EXACTLY what he is talking about, lets be rational and maybe try some sugar, afterall, vinegar is not working.

Lets TRY and get some GOOD PR?!

obg

I've given up, to be honest. Somehow a lot of children have taken over much of the vocal grassroots and they are enjoying hearing themselves too much to recognize the damage it does.

 

[robertwerden]

"I shouldnt acknowledge this, but i agree with a lot of what paul says"

Why shouldn't he acknowledge that? Will Fox be angry with him?

What amazes me is he keeps emailing me back.

 

[coffeewithchess]

I hate to say it, but I agree with him on this one. While we all agree he's a lying hack, publicly accosting him and making his life miserable do nothing to help Ron Paul; on the contrary, it hurts Dr. Paul's message, because now there's plenty of ammunition to paint RP supporters as kooks. Take a deep breath and think before you act, people.

+1000

 

[davidhperry]

I'm extremely surprised that Luntz justified your email with a response. I don't agree with him at all and I wish he would go away.

As a fellow supporter, I'm also embarrassed that I'm now associated with these kind of remarks. Your intentions are well justified, but you're actions are doing more harm than good.

A small minority of the RP supporters has been continually hostile since this whole thing started and it's just getting worse. Are we ready to stop this kind of stuff yet? We will never change everyone's mind. Do we now realize that brut force attacks don't work? Are we expecting Frank. Hannity, and others to just roll over and say: "Oh no, I've had one too many emails telling me to fuck off so I think I'll come to the light and support Ron Paul now. Hand me a bumper sticker!"

This is a war, but it's being fought the wrong way.

 

[OldBookGuy]

Public Relations

I've given up, to be honest. Somehow a lot of children have taken over much of the vocal grassroots and they are enjoying hearing themselves too much to recognize the damage it does.

That is sad, Paul has a great message, one that needs to be mainstreamed.

Though new here, I am and have been a paul supporter for some time now.

This somehow needs to be reversed, if interested, post a reply and I will PM you with info as to who I am, what I have worked on and some ideas.

obg

 

[CountryRoads]

I still havent seen his e-mail address...is this for real?

 

[Catatonic]

Feeding sugar to the snakes we're up against only gets you bitten. Some of us have the scars to prove it.

But hey, do whatever you think works best.

 

[davidhperry]

Feeding sugar to the snakes we're up against only gets you bitten. Some of us have the scars to prove it.

But hey, do whatever you think works best.

What do you recommend then?

 

[robertwerden]

I still havent seen his e-mail address...is this for real?

It is on his website, im not going to give it out.

 

[trispear]

I hate remarks like that. It's like the people who like Jesus but not Christians. Uh, if it wasn't for us loony supporters, Ron Paul would be dead in the dirt. It is because of us Luntz gets to hear his message!

Exactly. The "it's the supporters' fault" tagline is a weak excuse that servers two purposes:

1. It's used by many republicans or "conservative"/neocons/wilsonians to sort of show they are conservatives without admitting they are liberals.

and

2. As a distraction to cause infighting amoung ourselves in a fruitless blame game.

Remember, Frank Luntz is a bullshit artist that makes his living off bullshitting by making polls with results that please his clients. I don't even know why the OP wasted his time emailing: people are the most wonderful self-rationalizers. Frank Luntz is full of shit and has no credibility/integrity as during these debates he's been manipulating the audience with his room full of "undecided" voters (shills).

It's been proven again and again.

 

[priest_of_syrinx]

I don't know if the "fuck you Frank" comment is needed, as he probably already knows the public opinion of himself.

I think he's right that aggressive messages like this are giving us a bad name.

 

[Andrew-Austin]

Not that I agree with Mr. Luntz at all, but you guys don't need to be sending Fox over threats... (if there are people actually doing that)

 

[Sey.Naci]

This, from the OP's email to Luntz

Watch out, there are many people who don't like you.

This could easily be viewed as a threat and who's to know it wasn't meant that way?

I dislike FAUX and its talking heads as much as anyone and have done so since the network's beginning, but stupid stunts like this can only hurt RP and all his supporters.

 

[freelance]

This, from the OP's email to LuntzThis could easily be viewed as a threat and who's to know it wasn't meant that way?

I dislike FAUX and its talking heads as much as anyone and have done so since the network's beginning, but stupid stunts like this can only hurt RP and all his supporters.

Well, exactly, and FOX news has been known to show up at people's doorsteps. Yes, they can get your IP address, and yes, they can find you through it. Not only that, but it puts Josh and Bryan in a bad position. By law, they could have to give out any information they have on you.

 

[SeanEdwards]

Nice to hear the Frank is scared. Maybe that fear will help focus his mind on being more fair.

 

[VoluntaryMan]

OK, that is EXACTLY what he is talking about, lets be rational and maybe try some sugar, afterall, vinegar is not working.

Lets TRY and get some GOOD PR?!

obg

If Frankie wants some sugar, he can get it from his cellmate, when he goes to prison for election tampering.