My email from Frank Luntz

[SovereignMN]

I notice that Frank didn't bother to address your question....

He did answer it. He says Republicans dislike Paul so much that they turn down their dial as soon as they know he's going to speak next.

A better question for Frank Luntz would be...if Ron Paul has been garnering nearly 10% in all the early primary states thus far and your focus groups are supposed to represent your average Republican then why haven't seen seen ONE Ron Paul supporter in your focus groups over the past year? If you've had a couple hundred people go through your focus groups since May of last year shouldn't we have seen at least 1 Paul supporter? The fact that we haven't tells me your sample is spoiled and not worthy of consideration.

 

[Edward]

I notice that Frank didn't bother to address your question....

Maybe Frank would have if the OP hadn't written FU to him.

 

[Deborah K]

So email him back and ask why his focus groups are rigged. Send him this clip that proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt!!

http://alternet.org/blogs/democracy/#73083

 

[raiha]

Machiavelli also thought the ends justify the means. How would Ron Paul behave???

 

[762x54r]

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Because rank and file republicans dont like him at all.

Who can deny this is true? This is a long war. Socialists didn't gain control of the higher education system overnight...they did it by slow indoctrination. Progressives have used the long war to take power within the democratic party.

How many of you have "explained" your foreign policy positions to people but all they hear is "blame America first" ? Frustrating isn't it? And what about trying to explain the unintended consequences of allowing the fed to control the money supply? Not easy is it when most people don't have the background knowledge to put your argument in context...if they even have the attention span of more than 30 seconds.

The revolution does not end with RP or this election cycle. I'll write him in if I have to. I will continue on regardless.

 

[jdmetz]

I hate remarks like that. It's like the people who like Jesus but not Christians. Uh, if it wasn't for us loony supporters, Ron Paul would be dead in the dirt. It is because of us Luntz gets to hear his message!

Well, Ron Paul and Jesus both have the problem that a lot of their followers do a poor job of representing them. Anyway, if anyone here has rejected the message of Jesus Christ because of the way his followers act, maybe you could give him another look sometime (and keep in mind how you feel about people rejecting Ron Paul because of his followers).

 

[ClayTrainor]

By all means counter his misinformation, but don't scream at him in public, threaten to go stake out his house, etc. (not saying you have, but it's what I've read people talking about in various places). That crosses the line into wacko land as far as the public is concerned.

yea i definitely agree.

We need to respect people a bit more in public, but i really dont blame the supporters for being so angry.

These are some pretty evil people.

 

[BrandonHS]

I just find it odd. This, is regarding last nights Republican Debate. When Frank shows his little 'chart' and you notice that the median level, or average, normal level is silence. Which is fine. Then, he goes and shows the two immature replies(In my opinion) from Fred Thompson and Mike Huckabitch. Of which, the meter goes way off the chart, in a positive. And I admit, there was a lot of cheering.

However. If the median is silence, how is it that when he shows the chart for Ron Paul, when there were even people clapping and cheering, the meter shoots way down. Below the chart its self. It just amazes me.

On another note, when he asked his focus group to raise their hands if they thought Fred Thompson won, about five or so people failed to raise their hand the second time he asked. And to believe they all thought Fred won, and Paul lost? Hah, don't make me laugh. Fred was no where near winning, even if I TRY to agree with everything he says, and arrogantly side with him. Nope.

- Heres my rant.

 

[melianthus]

Frank is right.

Regardless of how he skews his focus groups, the rank and file republicans do NOT like Ron Paul. Most Republicans have totally bought into the empire. It's as if Goldwater and Reagan never even existed.

And what is left to say about some of the most vocal of his supporters. While we might think it is funny that people chase Hannity down the street lobbing snowballs at him, the vast majority of people are frightened by it. They think we are a bunch of rabble ready to really go to arms.

We have harassed every writer in the world who disagrees with us, and we haven't done it with honey. We have done it with vinegar.

The majority of people in this country will not vote for a candidate whose supporters are featured prominently on the Internet and on the television as a bunch of rabblerousers.

Having said that, off I go to canvass.

 

[BrandonHS]

Frank is right.

Regardless of how he skews his focus groups, the rank and file republicans do NOT like Ron Paul. Most Republicans have totally bought into the empire. It's as if Goldwater and Reagan never even existed.

And what is left to say about some of the most vocal of his supporters. While we might think it is funny that people chase Hannity down the street lobbing snowballs at him, the vast majority of people are frightened by it. They think we are a bunch of rabble ready to really go to arms.

We have harassed every writer in the world who disagrees with us, and we haven't done it with honey. We have done it with vinegar.

The majority of people in this country will not vote for a candidate whose supporters are featured prominently on the Internet and on the television as a bunch of rabblerousers.

Having said that, off I go to canvass.

Unfortunately, this is a true statement.

 

[MrCobaltBlue]

Wait Frank Luntz... Agrees with Dr. Paul?

Brain... splody...

 

[RustyBrewster]

I wrote:
From: Robert Werden
To: Frank I. Luntz
Sent: Fri Jan 11 11:53:48 2008
Subject: Your electronic meter

Why does the electronic meter go down before Ron Paul starts speaking Frank?

"Fuck you Frank"
Penn and Teller

[edit for quote].

inappropriate and uncalled for.

 

[Deborah K]

I happen to think that skewing the focus groups is incredibly deceptive and vile. Especially given that he asked the questions that he did about Ron Paul and given that apparently there was a woman in the group who claims that about 13 of them were favorable to Ron Paul in the very beginning but that this pig worked on them to change their views.

 

[RustyBrewster]

Frank is right.

Regardless of how he skews his focus groups, the rank and file republicans do NOT like Ron Paul. Most Republicans have totally bought into the empire. It's as if Goldwater and Reagan never even existed.

And what is left to say about some of the most vocal of his supporters. While we might think it is funny that people chase Hannity down the street lobbing snowballs at him, the vast majority of people are frightened by it. They think we are a bunch of rabble ready to really go to arms.

We have harassed every writer in the world who disagrees with us, and we haven't done it with honey. We have done it with vinegar.

The majority of people in this country will not vote for a candidate whose supporters are featured prominently on the Internet and on the television as a bunch of rabblerousers.

Having said that, off I go to canvass.

Well said. I'm one of those people that finds it frightening how malicious some of the most active Paul supporters can be.

I've seen several youtube videos of Paul supporters being extremely inappropriately confrontational and it is one of the things that is keeping me from being a part of my local meet up group.

 

[rtil]

You shouldn't have written "fuck you" in the e-mail. Be more professional, people.

 

[enjerth]

Its his supporters i dont like. They have been rude and abusive.

Tell him he has no idea what he's talking about. Ron Paul supporters far outnumber the few jerks who have been rude and abusive to him.

On the other hand, rigging the review of the debates will, in fact, make Ron Paul supporters irate and dislike you. I have not been one to say "Fuck you, Frank!" But I tell you what, the way he's going, it won't be long.

 

[smartguy911]

I wrote:
From: Robert Werden
To: Frank I. Luntz
Sent: Fri Jan 11 11:53:48 2008
Subject: Your electronic meter

Why does the electronic meter go down before Ron Paul starts speaking Frank?

"Fuck you Frank"
Penn and Teller

[edit for quote]


He Responded:

From: Frank I. Luntz
Date: 1/11/2008 11:57:19 AM
Subject: Re: Your electronic meter


Because rank and file republicans dont like him at all.

I shouldnt acknowledge this, but i agree with a lot of what paul says, and i think he's a great congressman. Its his supporters i dont like. They have been rude and abusive.

Sent from my blackberry.



I responded back and said if he likes Ron Paul, then do a youtube endorsement. I told him I would even pay him for his time to do it. Paying for endorsements is common and probably the only way the other guys get endorsements.

If he says he will, we should pay him just to throw it in FOX's face.

He might be right and maybe that's turning off a lot of people.

 

[MikeFallopian]

inappropriate and uncalled for.

Yeah, I'm actually shocked that Frank responded at all. OP should write an apology email and thank him for the response.

 

[robertwerden]

This is war. It is war against the establishment.
If people like Frank Luntz work for the establishment, then they are our enemy.

If they want to bring a fight against Ron Paul and his supporters, I say let it come, let it come.

Our chains are being forged with in the commentary of these media personalities. If they choose to go down this path, I warn them of the war they will get. To call them names and threaten a continued fight against them is nothing compared to the war that will come if they continue with the Bush doctrine.
I will not give up and to them I repeat Patrick Henry, Give me Liberty, or give me death

 

[Edward]

This is war. It is war against the establishment.
If people like Frank Luntz work for the establishment, then they are our enemy.

If they want to bring a fight against Ron Paul and his supporters, I say let it come, let it come.

Our chains are being forged with in the commentary of these media personalities. If they choose to go down this path, I warn them of the war they will get. To call them names and threaten a continued fight against them is nothing compared to the war that will come if they continue with the Bush doctrine.
I will not give up and to them I repeat Patrick Henry, Give me Liberty, or give me death

Wow. You said "fuck you" to the guy. I can't say that I'm inspired.