My email from Frank Luntz

[RickyJ]

There's nothing wrong with saying, "I think FNC is a disgrace to newscasting" or "I think Hannity is misleading and unfair", so long as after saying such a thing you could immediately sit down and have a cup of coffee with Hannity harboring no personal offense at him.

What? You better believe this is personal! NO coffee break with traitors dude! Got it?

This is a revolution, not a play!

 

[constitutional]

Frank is a tool - but what positive benefit would come of this? Are you trying to convert him to be a RP supporter? I realize that shouting at him might make you feel better personally but can you explain how this would help the campaign?

Lets say If I had support another candidate, Clinton.

I'd still say FU frank.

I don't know about you but I don't go around adding campaign's name to everything I would not say: "FU FRANK, RON PAUL REVOLUTION!" I'd just say "F2CK YOU FRANK, STOP RUINING MY COUNTRY!"

 

[DAFTEK]

FUK YOU FRANK, I got me a dozen eggs for all them fox fuks! No more nice guy. i think we wore too nice and we got fuked too long by that shity corrupt news empire

 

[Catatonic]

You guys ninnying and whining about being nice to these lizards being passed off as pundits and pollsters either havn't been around for their back stabbing or have a short memory.

I'll never forgive fox and others for the uphill battle we had to go through just to get enough momentum to not flounder and sink before the first primary was even held.

You'll get NOTHING from treating them like equals or simply philosophical opponents. These guys will put on a big grin, extend their hand in friendship, and as soon as you take it you'll have their fangs in your neck, hoping you can get them off before they drain you dry.

Hannity had the audacity to think he gets to decide who the nominee is for the American people. Giuliani was the golden child of Fox News and Hannity specifically, it wasn't until Ron Paul came along and started disrupting everything that you saw Thompson and then Huckabee come crawling out of the woodwork once Giuliani got exposed and everyone figured out that McCain is an idiot.

Now you want to pander to these treasenous slime to try to play nice? At this point? You'll NEVER get their cooperation, ever. We are looking to put their bosses out of business. Convert people, yourself. Get all your family, all your friends on board. Once thats done, get them to do the same. Canvassing, sign waving, all the grass roots stuff is nice, but its not as powerful as word of mouth to people you know. Start with your base, and get them motivated to do the same, and watch the effect grow exponentially. Thats my take, anyway, do whatever you feel is most affective.

Trying to play nice with Hannity and his goblin Luntz is a waste of time.

 

[Sandy]

Nice to hear the Frank is scared. Maybe that fear will help focus his mind on being more fair.

Really, give me a break. He didn't sound scared. He said he was going to be doing a story based on the emails, etc. Real scared.

He works for Fox, and the networks are purposely trying to influence the election towards certain candidates. They are purposely trying to influence the not strong of mind to not vote for RP. Frank is making excuses, even though he probably really does like RP. He is gettting PAID to try and influence people away from RP, and it has nothing to do with some overzealous supporters who cuss at him or try and intimidate him. However, those emails give him and Fox ammunition.

Stop sending him emails with cussing or immature rants, it has no effect except a negative one. If Frank didn't do what Fox has planned, they would replace him. Does anyone get that? We would just have the next guy in there. Frank must like his job more than he cares about the future of the entire country, that's the only thing I can come up with when it comes to most people in mainstream media (that know they are being used to influence elections and know they are using propaganda on a daily basis).

 

[Sandy]

You guys ninnying and whining about being nice to these lizards being passed off as pundits and pollsters either havn't been around for their back stabbing or have a short memory.

I'll never forgive fox and others for the uphill battle we had to go through just to get enough momentum to not flounder and sink before the first primary was even held.

You'll get NOTHING from treating them like equals or simply philosophical opponents. These guys will put on a big grin, extend their hand in friendship, and as soon as you take it you'll have their fangs in your neck, hoping you can get them off before they drain you dry.

Hannity had the audacity to think he gets to decide who the nominee is for the American people. Giuliani was the golden child of Fox News and Hannity specifically, it wasn't until Ron Paul came along and started disrupting everything that you saw Thompson and then Huckabee come crawling out of the woodwork once Giuliani got exposed and everyone figured out that McCain is an idiot.

Now you want to pander to these treasenous slime to try to play nice? At this point? You'll NEVER get their cooperation, ever. We are looking to put their bosses out of business. Convert people, yourself. Get all your family, all your friends on board. Once thats done, get them to do the same. Canvassing, sign waving, all the grass roots stuff is nice, but its not as powerful as word of mouth to people you know. Start with your base, and get them motivated to do the same, and watch the effect grow exponentially. Thats my take, anyway, do whatever you feel is most affective.

Trying to play nice with Hannity and his goblin Luntz is a waste of time.

Yes, this is the ticket, because Fox ain't going to stop with their crapola. Trying to be mean to Hannity/Frank isn't going to do anything either, another waste. I keep saying this over and over, but ALL THE NETWORKS are the problem. There is a concerted effort to influence away from RP, it's NOT just Fox.

 

[osofaux]

In order to be successful, this movement has to circumvent the media.

That means acknowledging that for everyone the movement reaches, the media will have reached them first, and will have delivered their message first. Once a seed of negative association with Ron Paul is planted in their minds, it will take root and become much more difficult to replace with a positive one.

So, the movement has to work twice as hard, and be twice as smart.

When anyone in this movement threatens anyone in the media, it legitimates the negative message they plant in the very people we are trying to reach, making the more reasonable of us work fifty times as hard and look incalculably stupid.

 

[Andrew-Austin]

What? You better believe this is personal! NO coffee break with traitors dude! Got it?

This is a revolution, not a play!

*face palm

Act as if it is personal, but don't openly talk as if this was personal. Thats what they are doing, thats the smart way of being offensive.

If you email someone at Fox, calling them out on what they did with Paul, they will just label you nuts. Whining to an international company about their own crimes, is kinda pointless. They don't give a fuck, your rhetorical fervor and emotion doesn't reach them.

When anyone in this movement threatens anyone in the media, it legitimates the negative message they plant in the very people we are trying to reach, making the more reasonable of us work fifty times as hard and look incalculably stupid.

Exactly. A lot of people are eager to go on the offensive in Paul's stead, but they don't take any time to think whats the most effective way of being offensive. Slinging around harsh threatening messages to the media, if anything, hurts us.

You guys ninnying and whining about being nice to these lizards being passed off as pundits and pollsters either havn't been around for their back stabbing or have a short memory.

I'll never forgive fox and others for the uphill battle we had to go through just to get enough momentum to not flounder and sink before the first primary was even held.

You'll get NOTHING from treating them like equals or simply philosophical opponents. These guys will put on a big grin, extend their hand in friendship, and as soon as you take it you'll have their fangs in your neck, hoping you can get them off before they drain you dry.

Read the bolded part of my post fives times over, so you clearly understand it.

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

because now there's plenty of ammunition to paint RP supporters as kooks.

They're going to do that, anyway. He's the only person with any real support, so they have to attack that support as illegitimate somehow.

What do governments do to discredit truthtellers? They try to pain them as crazy, socially. Look at those who have claimed to see UFOs... in may cases they were probably military sightings. How were those people treated?

Paul supporters could be model citizens, and they'd be called kooks anyway. Plants aren't out of the question, either. He's trying to upset a very large apple cart here.

 

[Soccrmastr]

well he's acknowledged us eh!

 

[Pharoah]

Luntz has no moral code whatsoever; but don't believe me - listen to his own words as cited in the 2004 article "Luntz on the Loose". http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Oct04/Berkowitz1026.htm

On September 2, the St. Paul Pioneer Press reported: "Earlier this year, GOP pollster Frank Luntz advised Republicans to never talk about Iraq or homeland security without first mentioning how '9/11 changed everything.'"

^^ So that's where Ghouliani was born...

In addition, a June 2004 memo by Luntz titled "Communicating The Principles Of Prevention & Protection In The War On Terror" coached Republicans on how to connect the Iraq war with the war on terror, including concepts like "It is better to fight the War on Terror on the streets of Baghdad than on the streets of New York or Washington"

^^ ...and that's where the Neo-cons got their script...

In 2002, Luntz wrote a similar memo for Republicans advising them "how to discuss environmental issues," MMFA reported. "This memo was particularly memorable for the advice Luntz offered on how to deal with the emerging scientific consensus that global warming is a real phenomenon with potentially dangerous consequences. Luntz advised Republicans to exploit the last 'window of opportunity' for Republicans to argue that the science of global warming is uncertain. He wrote: 'The scientific debate is closing [against us] but not yet closed. There is still a window of opportunity to challenge the science.'"

...a memorandum prepared by the Luntz Research Companies. Luntz's memo wasn't aimed at re-ordering the administration's environmental priorities; it was intended to change the public's perception of that record. Luntz warned that "the environment is probably the single issue on which Republicans in general -- and President Bush in particular -- are most vulnerable."

The memo suggested administration officials moderate their language: For example, instead of using the term "global warming," the memo advised substituting "climate change" because "while global warming has catastrophic communications attached to it, climate change sounds a more controllable and less emotional challenge"; and it suggested substituting "conservationist" for "environmentalist" because the latter had the "connotation of extremism."

^^ So that's where "climate change" came from... I always wondered why the MSM suddenly shifted to that term instead of "global warming." It seems Luntz has been a busy little spinner.

 

[Andrew-Austin]

Act as if it is personal, but don't openly talk as if this was personal. Thats what they are doing, thats the smart way of being offensive.

If you email someone at Fox, calling them out on what they did with Paul, they will just label you nuts. Whining to an international company about their own crimes, is kinda pointless. They don't give a fuck, your rhetoric and emotion doesn't reach them.

When anyone in this movement threatens anyone in the media, it legitimates the negative message they plant in the very people we are trying to reach, making the more reasonable of us work fifty times as hard and look incalculably stupid.

Exactly. A lot of people are eager to go on the offensive in Paul's stead, but they don't take any time to think whats the most effective way of being offensive. Slinging around harsh threatening messages to the media, if anything, hurts us.

If you want to get back at Fox, think of some other, more logical way of doing so.

So do you guys understand what I mean by this?

 

[itshappening]

he's on now

 

[itshappening]

didnt mention us, was selling McCain

 

[flahavin]

Have we run out of people that we need military cadets to get the correct response for fix news?

 

[Enzo]

You guys are all giving Frank Luntz WAAAAAAAAAAYYYY too much credit!

While I may have tried to be a little more civil, Frank Luntz is a dishonest, manipulative sack of shit.... that deserves no respect from anyone that takes human life seriously.

 

[Malakai0]

The fact is that Luntz is just another joe getting paid to do his job.

Is it immoral? Sure. Is he one of the powers that be, nor does he have any say in what he reports? OF COURSE NOT.


However these guys need to understand the age old comment "the internet is serios business"

 

[GodOfThunder]

I wrote:
From: Robert Werden
To: Frank I. Luntz
" and you're destroying the viability and credibility of your candidate by the way you all behave."

Frank,
You're destroying the viability and credibility of a national news source coverning an election.

Eat shit and die.

 

[PaleoForPaul]

I worked for rudy -- yet he hasnt won a single focus group. It's not my fault rudy doesnt perform well. It's his.

No, but the second best thing has happened for Rudy. Chaos. Romney, Huckabee and McCain have all won a primary.

Now, with South Carolina coming, Luntz the dunce is saying Thompson somehow won that debate. Of course a Thompson win would be the best thing for Rudy (next to a Rudy win) because it keeps things mixed up until Florida.

How is a PAID STAFFER for RUDY'S CAMPAIGN allowed to come on Fox news and act like an impartial statistician?

 

[qh4dotcom]

Answer

What is Franks Email? No one here has posted it yet

Like Bill Gates, chances are that he only reads a small fraction of e-mails sent to him...spam filters and customer service delete the remaining unwanted ones.