Musk Advocates to Double H-1B Visas

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[Brian4Liberty]

 

[TheCount]

 

[Invisible Man]

Listen to Trump starting at 37 seconds in that video. Notice how he says "they" referring to ICE, as if it's some other group that he's opposing and not his own employees following his orders.

 

[TheCount]

Listen to Trump starting at 37 seconds in that video. Notice how he says "they" referring to ICE, as if it's some other group that he's opposing and not his own employees following his orders.

He has to disavow anything that costs his fellow billionaires money.

"They" only wanted to get rid of the bad ones. Not the good battery-making South Koreans. The bad ones. You know who they are.

 

[Anti Federalist]

 

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[Invisible Man]

Isn't that partly because the best college seniors in CS from China, India, and Russia, are studying in the USA? The ones who stay in those countries and go to college there are not their top students. These students from those countries who study at American universities would need work visas to stay in the US and work here in that field.

 

[acptulsa]

Isn't that partly because...

What if it is? It still puts the lie to Trump's claim that we lack the resources to teach our own how to do those jobs.

 

[Danke]

How about Israel?

 

[acptulsa]

How about Israel?

I already know what the answer would be, but I'd still pay more than I could afford to see the question put to him.

 

[Invisible Man]

What if it is? It still puts the lie to Trump's claim that we lack the resources to teach our own how to do those jobs.

The way Trump is saying it is wrong, since it's not an either-or like that. But he's still right that we benefit from bringing in more skilled labor from other countries even after taking full advantage of our own population.

 

[acptulsa]

But he's still right that we benefit from bringing in more skilled labor from other countries even after taking full advantage of our own population.

That depends on how one defines "we".

The closer you come to defining "we" the way the resident bot does, the more I disagree with the statement.

In any case, the multinationals are out of control, and prohibiting things that could, under other circumstances, be desirable may be necessary for the moment. We need to regain control of our own nation.

 

[jmdrake]

That's irrelevant. When I was an undergrad computer science student at the University of Alabama at Birmingham from 1988-1991 the overwhelming majority of my classmates were white, but at the graduate level > 90% were foreign born Asian. One of my professors dated one of the Chinese girls and then married her sister. Almost all of the faculty were white. Now the department chair is Asian. I went to an HBCU (Oakwood Univeristy) before going to UAB. I recently looked to see if they Oakwood has a cybersecurity course. It does and it's taught by an Asian. American programmers usually graduate college and go get a job. Note that Birmingham is NOT a diverse city. These foreign students are only coming for the education. This was also true for the chemistry and physics departments. I know because I only had one white and one black lab instructor for those courses. Everybody else was Asian. Bless their hearts they were HARD to understand. When I was a computer lab instructor the white students were tripping over themselves to sign up for me so that they would get a native born English speaker.

Now, here's the question nobody will ask. Why not invest more in underrepresented naturally born U.S. citizens? Oh but you can't do that because that would be seen as too "liberal." So China and India invest in their populations and send them here for graduate school.

 

[jmdrake]

Isn't that partly because the best college seniors in CS from China, India, and Russia, are studying in the USA? The ones who stay in those countries and go to college there are not their top students. These students from those countries who study at American universities would need work visas to stay in the US and work here in that field.

Ummm...his post was saying that the foreign CS students studying in America do WORSE than American born CS students. So that's kindo f the opposite of the point you're trying to make. Regardless the overwhelming majority of U.S. born CS students do not go on to get advanced degrees. I'm not sure what the total numbers are overall, but at UAB in the 1990s the overwhelming majority of CS students masters and higher were foreign born Asians. That's just a fact.

 

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[Invisible Man]

Ummm...his post was saying that the foreign CS students studying in America do WORSE than American born CS students. So that's kindo f the opposite of the point you're trying to make. Regardless the overwhelming majority of U.S. born CS students do not go on to get advanced degrees. I'm not sure what the total numbers are overall, but at UAB in the 1990s the overwhelming majority of CS students masters and higher were foreign born Asians. That's just a fact.

That's not what his post says. It wasn't comparing foreign students from those countries studying in the US with American students studying in the US. It was comparing college seniors in those foreign countries (i.e. Indian students who stayed in India, Russian students who stayed in Russia, and Chinese students who stayed in China) with college seniors in the US (including Indian, Russian, and Chinese students who came to the US to study instead of staying in those countries).