Multiculturalism in Europe. The Norwegian "Awakening"

[Jake Ralston]

While many on this forum are debating gun control, the larger, more invasive issue is that of multiculturalism in Europe. The rising number of Islamists and the Sharia Law movement has had a profound effect on Europeans.

Many European countries have also adopted political correctness aka "Multi-Kulti" and with the recent recession many native Europeans are finding themselves jobless. At the same time many immigrants remain employed due to their hard working ethic, and low pay demands.

"Multi-Kulti" has been admittedly a failed experiment. Some of Europes most powerful leaders have made recent political statements against such at the very least, and in some cases even taken action:

Sarkozy: "We have been too concerned about the identity of the person who was arriving and not enough about the identity of the country that was receiving him," he said in a television interview in which he declared the concept a "failure".

Merkel: "We kidded ourselves for a while that they wouldn't stay, but that's not the reality," she said at a conference of the youth wing of her Christian Democratic Union.

"Of course the tendency had been to say, 'let's adopt the multicultural concept and live happily side by side, and be happy to be living with each other'. But this concept has failed, and failed utterly."

I believe the Norway attack to not be a lone incident. There will be more chaos and bloodshed if a solution is not found. Multiculturalism has failed.

Is this sort of political correctness a step towards the impending doom of modern society as we know it?

What will it take to abandon political correctness, and reinstall the right to a nation's sovereignty and personal choice in who to allow immigration rights?

 

[smartguy911]

what? isn't the guy who attacked white? Christian?

 

[smartguy911]

India seems to be doing fine with different cultures, religions -

Religion not stated -----727,588 0.1%
Bahá'ís-------------------1 953 112 0.18%
Jains---------------------4,225,053 0.4%
Others-------------------4,686,588 0.32%
Buddhists----------------7,955,207 0.8%
Sikhs---------------------19,215,730 1.9%
Christians----------------24,080,016 2.3%
Muslims------------------138,188,240 13.4%
Hindus--------------------827,578,868 80.5%
All religions--------------1,028,610,328 100.00%

 

[GreenCardSeeker]

The man who attacked was an anti-Muslim ethnic Norwegian. See my blog posts at http://danielhammarberg.blogspot.com/2011/07/anders-behring-breivik-oslo-shooter-and.html and http://danielhammarberg.blogspot.com/2011/07/manifesto-of-anders-behring-breivik-not.html .

Europe does indeed have an immigration problem, yep - hordes of people from the third world are flooding the borders, in many cases trying to escape their bad reputation and criminal records at home and live off the government in their destination countries.

 

[pcosmar]

This "event" in Norway was a staged event. The reported killer (I have no reason to doubt he was involved) was a racist, a neo Nazi.

Most of everything else reported is manufactured. From the Fake Facebook page to the fake photos.

This is an obvious False Flag event.

Several folks, with several backgrounds are coming to the same conclusion and noticing the very obvious..
http://deadlinelive.info/2011/07/23...p-terrorist-kills-liberal-children-in-norway/

 

[MelissaWV]

So... the really pale racist dude who shot up some children is not really the big problem. The trend towards multiculturalism that made him angry is.

This sounds an awful lot like blaming music, video games, or television for the fact that some teen snaps and shoots up their school.

Astounding. Even when the shooter is as white as you can get without being an albino, it's the Muslims' fault.

 

[GreenCardSeeker]

This "event" in Norway was a staged event. The reported killer (I have no reason to doubt he was involved) was a racist, a neo Nazi.

Most of everything else reported is manufactured. From the Fake Facebook page to the fake photos.

This is an obvious False Flag event.

Several folks, with several backgrounds are coming to the same conclusion and noticing the very obvious..
http://deadlinelive.info/2011/07/23...p-terrorist-kills-liberal-children-in-norway/

Well, have to point out that this man was very vigilant declaring that he was anti-racist, that he believed race and ethnicity didn't matter. His #1 hero was Norwegian resistance fighter Max Manus too, who fought Germany during WW2. Breivik is one of the new right people who feel that any attempt to base a movement on ethnicity or race belongs in the past, and that a new movement has to make Islam its main enemy. Nationality, views on economic issues, homosexuality or anything of that sort shouldn't divide people according to him, everyone's supposed to join in the fight against Islam. Usually people like he have little to do with established nationalist movements, they want to ignore all of that and step up as leaders, preferring to work with the political elite than with the masses.

 

[pcosmar]

So... the really pale racist dude who shot up some children is not really the big problem. The trend towards multiculturalism that made him angry is.

This sounds an awful lot like blaming music, video games, or television for the fact that some teen snaps and shoots up their school.

Astounding. Even when the shooter is as white as you can get without being an albino, it's the Muslims' fault.

Hey.

Anything that deflects from the players behind the game and promotes the agenda,,,

 

[pcosmar]

Well, have to point out that this man was very vigilant declaring that he was anti-racist,

Bullshit.
That was all written in English. The Facebook Page was all in English and meant to create a false image.
It was targeted at an audience. And it was not a Norwegian audience.

I do not believe it was written by him at all.
I've seen this shit before.

 

[Danke]

India seems to be doing fine with different cultures, religions -

There is discrimination and violence with their caste system.

 

[GreenCardSeeker]

Bullshit.
That was all written in English. The Facebook Page was all in English and meant to create a false image.
It was targeted at an audience. And it was not a Norwegian audience.

I do not believe it was written by him at all.

I think you need to take off your tin foil hat and read his own Norwegian writings. I made translations available at http://danielhammarberg.blogspot.com/2011/07/anders-behring-breivik-oslo-shooter-and.html . I link the source too, the Norwegian site document.no where he wrote all of it. For a couple of years now, he's made a dual effort in both Norway and abroad establishing contacts and preparing a new movement, apparently without much success. That was probably what ultimately led him to shoot up those people. What ticked him off was that they were protesting his beloved Israel.

 

[Jake Ralston]

So... the really pale racist dude who shot up some children is not really the big problem. The trend towards multiculturalism that made him angry is.

This sounds an awful lot like blaming music, video games, or television for the fact that some teen snaps and shoots up their school.

Astounding. Even when the shooter is as white as you can get without being an albino, it's the Muslims' fault.

I didn't say anything about the shooter. I mentioned gun control. The shooter was absolutely wrong, my intelligence has been insulted to even have to clarify that point.

Have you watched his video, the one removed from youtube? He was upset about Islam taking over Europe, and guess what, he is not alone.

Euro-leaders have spoken out against multiculturalism in Europe, as quoted in the OP.

Please keep the discussion on topic per the forum guidelines, or else feel free not to respond.

Thank you.

 

[moderate libertarian]

If recent Oslo twin terror attacks are being referred to here, I won't call that "awakening".

EVOLUTION:
* "For me, personally, it was my government's involvement in the attacks on Serbia."

* "It was completely unacceptable how the U.S. and Western European regimes bombed our Serbian brothers. All they (the Serbs) wanted was to drive out Islam by deporting the Albanian Muslims back to Albania."

* "I've spent a total of 9 years of my life working on this project."

* Around year 2000 I realised that the democratic struggle against the Islamisation of Europe, European multiculturalism was lost. It had gone too far ... 40 years of dialogue with the cultural Marxists/multiculturalists had ended up as a disaster. It would now only take 50-70 years before we, the Europeans are in a minority. As soon as I realised this I decided to explore alternative forms of opposition. Protesting is saying that you disagree. Resistance is saying you will put a stop to this. I decided I wanted to join the resistance movement.

* I came in contact with Serbian cultural conservatives through the internet. This initial contact would eventually result in my contact with several key individuals all over Europe and the forming of the group who would later establish the military order and tribunal ... Knights Templar."

* There have been several issues that have reaffirmed my beliefs since then. Among them; my governments cowardly handling of the Muhammad Cartoon issue and their decision to award the Nobel peace prize to an Islamic terrorist (Arafat) and appeasers of Islam. There have been tens of other issues."


EXECUTION:

* "If you are unwilling or incapable of killing women due to the principles of chivalry you should probably steer away completely from the armed resistance movements and should probably consider creating yet another right wing blog instead."

* "Once you decide to strike, it is better to kill too many than not enough, or you risk reducing the desired ideological impact of the strike. Explain what you have done (in an announcement distributed prior to operation) and make certain that everyone understands that we, the free peoples of Europe, are going to strike again and again."

* "Do not apologise, make excuses or express regret for you are acting in self-defence or in a preemptive manner ... Some innocent will die in our operations as they are simply at the wrong place at the wrong time. Get used (to) the idea. The needs of the many will always surpass the needs of the few.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/07/24/idINIndia-58424820110724


Breivik, Rightist Mass Murderer, Hates Muslims, Loves Pam Geller

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2011/07/22/rightist-wreaks-terror-through-norway/

* Were the majority of the German and European Jews disloyal? Yes, at least the so called liberal Jews, similar to the liberal Jews today that oppose nationalism/Zionism and support multiculturalism. Jews that support multiculturalism today are as much of a threat to Israel and Zionism (Israeli nationalism) as they are to us. So let us fight together with Israel, with our Zionist brothers against all anti-Zionists, against all cultural Marxists/multiculturalists….So, are the current Jews in Europe and US disloyal? The multiculturalist (nation-wrecking) Jews ARE, while the conservative Jews ARE NOT. Aprox. 75% of European/US Jews support multiculturalism while aprox. 50% of Israeli Jews does the same. This shows very clearly that we must embrace the remaining loyal Jews as brothers rather than repeating the mistake of the NSDAP. Whenever I discuss the Middle East issue with a national socialist he presents the anti-Israeli and pro-Palestine argument. He always seem unaware of the fact that his propaganda is hurting Israeli nationalists (who want to deport the Muslims from Israel) and that he is in fact helping the Israeli cultural Marxists/multiculturalists with his argumentation.

 

[pcosmar]

I think you need to take off your tin foil hat and read his own Norwegian writings.

No tin foil here. I have no doubt he was a nut. Had some twisted racist views. There are a lot of Neo-Nazis throughout Europe, and here in the US.
I suspect this was staged to target wider groups in the Global War on Terror (International Police State).

All that was needed was an event. And this one seems made for that purpose.

The Facebook page was created only days before, and created in English (not his native tongue) and was targeted towards Americans.
There is more going on here. look beyond grinding your personal axes.

He is a manufactured persona, for a manufactured event.

 

[sparebulb]

..........., and that a new movement has to make Islam its main enemy............

Sounds like the shooter listened to too much Fox "News", Levin, and Savage.

This is obviously a false flag attack or it is CIA/MI6/Mossad sending a message. Let's see if Norway renews its commitment to the Libyan invasion and Greek bailout.

 

[MelissaWV]

He was upset about Islam taking over Europe

Sounds like it was the Muslims' fault to me, in your opinion... and in his :eyeroll:

He's not alone!

So we can expect more of these shootings? What's the cure, do you think?

 

[AGRP]

If anything this guy appears to be a neocon; if this isn't a false flag.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

India seems to be doing fine with different cultures, religions -

Religion not stated -----727,588 0.1%
Bahá'ís-------------------1 953 112 0.18%
Jains---------------------4,225,053 0.4%
Others-------------------4,686,588 0.32%
Buddhists----------------7,955,207 0.8%
Sikhs---------------------19,215,730 1.9%
Christians----------------24,080,016 2.3%
Muslims------------------138,188,240 13.4%
Hindus--------------------827,578,868 80.5%
All religions--------------1,028,610,328 100.00%

There is discrimination and violence with their caste system.

Yeah, not really a shining example. Religious violence is fairly common in India, and even more so in Pakistan and Kashmir.

 

[Johncjackson]

Give me a fucking break.

 

[Jake Ralston]

Sounds like it was the Muslims' fault to me, in your opinion... and in his :eyeroll:

This is the second time you've been intellectually dishonest. And it's your second post. Your not off to a very good start on this thread. But once again i'll take the bait and appease you. So in regards to it being the "Muslims' fault" ... the answer is no it is not. The innocent deaths are the fault of the shooter and the shooter alone. However, the failed policy of MultiKulti can be blamed on the policymakers in Europe. It never should have been "experimented" with in the first place. I am a strong believer in national sovereignty and the right of each nation to shape it's immigration policy however it deems fit. That would include a "love it or leave it" type of immigration stance.

I have traveled to six countries in Europe, to include France, Germany, The Netherlands and others. As a "typical American tourist" I made sure to pay attention to the local norms and customs and not play into any negative stereotypes. It's not that hard really, and it comes down to respect.

He's not alone!

So we can expect more of these shootings? What's the cure, do you think?

I believe so. I don't condone the shootings, but I see more occuring. I see more violence in general occuring because of this forced adaptation to Islam both at the State and Societal levels. Is that really a surprise? As for me, I haven't exactly formed a political "cure" at this point in time. Hence the reason for starting this thread ..........

Give me a fucking break.

Give yourself a break bro. Noone here owes you a damn thing.