Msg from Jonathan Bydlak -- willing to answer questions

Hi Johnathan, I am glad you came on to answer some of the questions we the grassroots have had but never really seemed to get answers from the HQ. I want to thank you for all of your hard work. My question to you is probably one you have heard a thousand times over but I will ask again anyway. I realize that campaigning costs and that it costs alot of money. After the Nov 5th money-bomb success and again after the Boston Tea Party money-bombs success the campaign had ALOT more cash on hand than most of the other candidates including McCain and Huckabee by a wide margin. The media although never really friendly, after Nov 5th there seemed to be some real positives coming from the campaign media wise. We in MI had our primary on Jan 15th and McCain, Huckabee, and Romney were buzzing around this state speaking in small towns, large towns, putting on t.v. ads. Us Ron Paul supporters were getting our GOP people here going "is Ron coming to Grand Rapids? We would welcome a visit. We would be like were sure he will be here but no word from the HQ. Time past and it was is he coming? Well we do not know. Then to state directors and HQ people saying Ron will come if he sees you have enough organization and support. We did it and showed them we did. Then came the word like a week or so away from Jan 15th that nope he is not coming, leaving us with egg on our face in front of our local GOP who after his fundraising success started to actually give him a second look because at every GOP meeting we had we would double the number of Ron Paul supporters there, far surpasing any supporters from any other campaign. No Ron, No t.v. ads, little radio ads and 25 million sitting in the bank. This was not just isolated to MI as I heard this coming from several primary states. We also never recieved a campaign HQ in West Michigan although we were told to go look at them from which we could be successful precinct delegates. We did recieve much needed supplies about one week before primary day leaving us too little time to distribute it all out. Now mind you we had no money for a local HQ in Grand Rapids, but the night of the primary we had the money to hold a big party at some upscale hotel. There were alot of grassroots people that were just in shock at the way were being treated by the HQ. PLEASE, PLEASE, TELL ME what the hell we spent all that money on. Bacause watching McAIN AND ROMNEY AND hUCKABEE DO A FANTASTC JOB CAMPAIGNING HERE REALLY BLEW THE WIND OUT OF OUR SAILS.
 
Thanks for listening to us - were you ever on the grassroots conference calls - sorry if they got to heated - we were all just trying to help
 
As far as not responding to media requests, two points... first, you're right that the campaign was too late formulating a 5 star media team. It should have been in place earlier, and I fault myself in retrospect, as well as others, for sort of seeing it as a problem, but not realizing its magnitude. But, I will also say that many of the criticisms that people raise in this regard are unfounded. By the end of November, we had a system in place to responding to important media calls. But again, we can't respond to every local newspaper and TV station. We were forced to pick and choose appearances that were most important, particularly because the media did not care about surrogates for Ron Paul like they did for a Hillary Clinton. That meant that Ron had to do all of these appearances, which was just impossible. Many of the criticisms of the media team were centered on less important media -- not that all media aren't important, but you still clearly have to get Ron in front of the biggest media audience as you can, given time constraints.

I totally understand all this and often found myself defending HQ when people would criticize the media staff for not responding to interview requests for big interview opportunities. And I know you handled fundraising and not media, but it's really hard to understand when you consider how many times Ron was available to go on shows such as Alex Jones.
 
Is there any way you can describe the atmosphere/expectations around the office on November 4th? I think that would be interesting to hear.
 
Me too. I would like to know why the TV ads were so horrible when so much creative stuff was out here for the taking..
Thanks, as well. I know everyone is trying to do something every day.
 
Me too. I would like to know why the TV ads were so horrible when so much creative stuff was out here for the taking..
Thanks, as well. I know everyone is trying to do something every day.

he's already answered this, what works on youtube doesn't work on tv, time is pricey.
 
I'd also like to know what was going on on the 5th of November. I have a napkin from breakfast that morning where I was writing down numbers and times trying to get a projection and was almost crapping my pants. I thought it was going to slow down but it just kept going... best day of the campaign was watching that number go up that day...

Also, what is the reaction inside the campaign about all the conspiracy theorists? Was being constantly linked to 'extremist' groups a major concern as far as press goes? Was there any planning on how to deal with that without alienating supporters? To me, that seems like it would have been one of the harder parts to deal with...

Do you think they were prepared enough for the reaction and fundraising success, were there plans in place before for what they would do with X amount of money, or did they just fly by the seat of their pants when it all happened?

Was the main point of this to create a movement or to seriously run for president? I (and others) have been fighting on here about spreading the message, getting behind freedom candidates for congress, putting less emphasis on the Paul campaign (especially since the primary is over in my state), discouraging a 3rd party run, and people think I'm a traitor for it... but that is what I am interpreting from the official youtube vids from Ron. Your thoughts on that? What should we be doing aside from 'everything you can'?

There needs to be some official liason between the campaign (or the PAC), and the grassroots... it was needed before, but it is really needed now because people are losing sight of the target and turning on each other. Just my thoughts and thanks for posting...
 
You guys did an absolutely horrible job with the money. I maxed out, but i've always felt that if you at least gave us better ideas how the money was being spent, you would have gotten a LOT more.
 
Well, I think there may be some truth to this comment. But I would also add that if they didn't expect things to turn out this well, neither did Ron. In fact, I don't think ANYONE, inside or outside of the campaign did.

I can tell you that everyone on our staff wanted to win this race desperately. And we all still do. But adding an "expert" would not have solved anything. Remember that Ron himself has said numerous times that he saw this campaign as an educational campaign...

As far as not responding to media requests, two points... first, you're right that the campaign was too late formulating a 5 star media team. It should have been in place earlier, and I fault myself in retrospect, as well as others, for sort of seeing it as a problem, but not realizing its magnitude. But, I will also say that many of the criticisms that people raise in this regard are unfounded. By the end of November, we had a system in place to responding to important media calls. But again, we can't respond to every local newspaper and TV station. We were forced to pick and choose appearances that were most important, particularly because the media did not care about surrogates for Ron Paul like they did for a Hillary Clinton. That meant that Ron had to do all of these appearances, which was just impossible. Many of the criticisms of the media team were centered on less important media -- not that all media aren't important, but you still clearly have to get Ron in front of the biggest media audience as you can, given time constraints.

Thank you for answering the questions. I have to respect that.

This is gut wrenching and heart breaking. I saw in in early July when you guys had more money than McCain that you could do well. So did the media. That is how I found out that Ron Paul was doing well. They reported the story.

I volunteered in the HQ in early August and saw the tremendous grassroots taking place. I could tell right then and there that this was a campaign with momentum. I judged the level of activity to be record breaking. Having been on many campaigns I had never seen a grassroots like this. Most campaigns spend their time and money begging people to help their campaign. Ron Paul's campaign was the opposite. People were begging to help him. I have never seen anything like it. Yet the campaign ignored and squandered this opportunity in the most horrible way.

I was expecting a great campaign outcome based on money and volunteer enthusiasm, yet I saw the problems of understaffing in the campaign in all areas and tried to do things about it. Yet most of the time the senior staff was on the road with Ron Paul instead of managing the HQ. I commented and lamented to various people about what was going on. I wrote a paper detailing the problems and some senior staff read it but probably reacted way too late months later if at all.

Having the national press team in place by November is great, but the campaign is practically over at that point if you are really trying to win.

I have to wonder if they really wanted to win race. An expert would have changed things immediately and we probably would have come in third in Iowa instead of fifth. McCain's momentum would have stalled at that point. The outcome would be very different today.
 
Thanks for taking the time to talk with us, Johnathan! It's much appreciated.

My question is this: In retrospect, what could the campaign have done to be more successful than it already has been?
 
Oh, and why didn't HQ dedicate someone whose only job was to keep the grassroots informed? Daily meetups on this forum would have dispelled much anger towards HQ and probably would have easily paid for the salary of the person by increased donations.

Most of the other campaigns had daily email updates and extensive grassroots coordinators.

Yeah, I agree that we should have been e-mailing supporters more often. Though it is a fine line between e-mailing all the time and spamming supporters. But I personally think that we had a long way to before bumping into that limit.
 
I do not believe it is undignified to attack the other 3 vigorously. If that is what it takes to win, I wish he would do it.

Remaining dignified is noble in times of peace, but in times of war, not if it means the death of God knows how many brown people as George Carlin likes to put it, by taking the high road.

I want to see the Ron Paul that told that Morton Downey Jr audience member to go on a diet...I want to see some fire and vigor. I know he's still got it in him, and I know he thinks the message is enough, but it isn't, sadly.

Man, I wanted to see that Ron so many times, too! I think that one of the things that Ron has trouble with is that he doesn't want to pander at all. While that makes him so appealing to me personally, it also leads him not to tailor his message to his audience, which in my opinion is very different than pandering. I see that as rule number 1 of giving a speech or writing a paper.

But Dr. Paul doesn't see things that way. He believes issues like monetary policy and flawed Iraq policy are so critical that everyone needs to hear about them, regardless of whether he's speaking to a group of students, South Carolina veterans, or Silicon Valley software entrepreneurs. While that's admirable, I've got to say, it just doesn't win elections.
 
Jonathan,

Does Dr. Paul plan to run again for President in 2012?

I have absolutely no idea, to be honest. Of course, he'd be 76 at that time, so I'd find it pretty hard to believe, but then again, I don't think he ever thought that he was going to run at 72!

But regardless of what Ron decides to do, keep in mind that "the show must go on." We have to keep working diligently towards the goals that united us in the first place, and that work needs to take place regardles of whether there's a presidential election coming up.

As I said in a previous response, use the tools the campaign has provided in the precinct leader program, and go out and canvass your neighbors. Find other like-minded individuals, and get their support for Ron Paul, and more important -- the ideas of liberty. Get them to come with you to a local Republican party meeting. Have fun while doing it, and keep those meetups going strong!
 
Hi Johnathan, I am glad you came on to answer some of the questions we the grassroots have had but never really seemed to get answers from the HQ. I want to thank you for all of your hard work. My question to you is probably one you have heard a thousand times over but I will ask again anyway. I realize that campaigning costs and that it costs alot of money. After the Nov 5th money-bomb success and again after the Boston Tea Party money-bombs success the campaign had ALOT more cash on hand than most of the other candidates including McCain and Huckabee by a wide margin. The media although never really friendly, after Nov 5th there seemed to be some real positives coming from the campaign media wise. We in MI had our primary on Jan 15th and McCain, Huckabee, and Romney were buzzing around this state speaking in small towns, large towns, putting on t.v. ads. Us Ron Paul supporters were getting our GOP people here going "is Ron coming to Grand Rapids? We would welcome a visit. We would be like were sure he will be here but no word from the HQ. Time past and it was is he coming? Well we do not know. Then to state directors and HQ people saying Ron will come if he sees you have enough organization and support. We did it and showed them we did. Then came the word like a week or so away from Jan 15th that nope he is not coming, leaving us with egg on our face in front of our local GOP who after his fundraising success started to actually give him a second look because at every GOP meeting we had we would double the number of Ron Paul supporters there, far surpasing any supporters from any other campaign. No Ron, No t.v. ads, little radio ads and 25 million sitting in the bank. This was not just isolated to MI as I heard this coming from several primary states. We also never recieved a campaign HQ in West Michigan although we were told to go look at them from which we could be successful precinct delegates. We did recieve much needed supplies about one week before primary day leaving us too little time to distribute it all out. Now mind you we had no money for a local HQ in Grand Rapids, but the night of the primary we had the money to hold a big party at some upscale hotel. There were alot of grassroots people that were just in shock at the way were being treated by the HQ. PLEASE, PLEASE, TELL ME what the hell we spent all that money on. Bacause watching McAIN AND ROMNEY AND hUCKABEE DO A FANTASTC JOB CAMPAIGNING HERE REALLY BLEW THE WIND OUT OF OUR SAILS.

+1000
 
Can you tell us why the ticker is down on the Ron Paul website? Are we still donating to the campaign or are we supposed to donate to the Liberty PAC?
 
Hi Johnathan, I am glad you came on to answer some of the questions we the grassroots have had but never really seemed to get answers from the HQ. I want to thank you for all of your hard work. My question to you is probably one you have heard a thousand times over but I will ask again anyway. I realize that campaigning costs and that it costs alot of money. After the Nov 5th money-bomb success and again after the Boston Tea Party money-bombs success the campaign had ALOT more cash on hand than most of the other candidates including McCain and Huckabee by a wide margin. The media although never really friendly, after Nov 5th there seemed to be some real positives coming from the campaign media wise. We in MI had our primary on Jan 15th and McCain, Huckabee, and Romney were buzzing around this state speaking in small towns, large towns, putting on t.v. ads. Us Ron Paul supporters were getting our GOP people here going "is Ron coming to Grand Rapids? We would welcome a visit. We would be like were sure he will be here but no word from the HQ. Time past and it was is he coming? Well we do not know. Then to state directors and HQ people saying Ron will come if he sees you have enough organization and support. We did it and showed them we did. Then came the word like a week or so away from Jan 15th that nope he is not coming, leaving us with egg on our face in front of our local GOP who after his fundraising success started to actually give him a second look because at every GOP meeting we had we would double the number of Ron Paul supporters there, far surpasing any supporters from any other campaign. No Ron, No t.v. ads, little radio ads and 25 million sitting in the bank. This was not just isolated to MI as I heard this coming from several primary states. We also never recieved a campaign HQ in West Michigan although we were told to go look at them from which we could be successful precinct delegates. We did recieve much needed supplies about one week before primary day leaving us too little time to distribute it all out. Now mind you we had no money for a local HQ in Grand Rapids, but the night of the primary we had the money to hold a big party at some upscale hotel. There were alot of grassroots people that were just in shock at the way were being treated by the HQ. PLEASE, PLEASE, TELL ME what the hell we spent all that money on. Bacause watching McAIN AND ROMNEY AND hUCKABEE DO A FANTASTC JOB CAMPAIGNING HERE REALLY BLEW THE WIND OUT OF OUR SAILS.

Wow, are you what they call a "troll" in these parts? :D

Haha, just kidding. I'll be happy to answer your questions as best I can.

First, let me dispel one myth... we never had $25 million in the bank. In fact, I don't think the campaign ever had $15 million in the bank. You see, unlike candidates like McCain, who should have been long-eliminated were it not for a love affair from the media, Dr. Paul had no name recognition. That meant we had to spend as much as we possibly could, getting Dr. Paul's name out in the public sphere. In essence, we had to create our own media, because we weren't getting much in the way of earned media.

Now, as far as the money bombs were concerned, it's true that we got a good deal of positive press from them. But those events by themselves were not sufficient to generate the amount of press that we needed.So with resources limited more than many people in the grassroots understood, we needed to target the money that we were spending. The decision was, as you all know, largely made to focus on the early primary states, because doing well in those states was the only way to dispel the "can he translate his online support into boots on the ground" line.

I think I've mentioned this on a couple of occasions, and I know some people have jumped on me, but the wait that we had to go through leading up to the second money bomb did make things somewhat difficult for the campaign to accomplish that goal. The e-mail that was sent out asking for more money before December 16th was sent because we had to go down from TV in Iowa. Dr. Paul had been at 1% (or lower) in Iowa, prior to us being on TV, and we were seeing our poll numbers rally 5-7% during the two week period we were running ads. But then we had to go down on TV for close to a month, because at that time, we could not afford to spend on TV in Iowa in addition to direct mail, radio, TV, phone banking, staff, etc. in other states like New Hampshire, South Carolina, etc.

So long story short on that point, people need to realize that at no point did we really have as much money as we needed to run a full-fledged campaign everywhere in the country, as much as we all wanted to. Some people were inevitably going to be disappointed.

As far as the "how the money was spent" question, I don't really have the knowledge to document every line-item expense, nor do I think that it's appropriate. Your best bet to answer that question is to look in the FEC reports... you'll probably figure out more by doing that than I'd be able to tell you.

With regards to Michigan specifically, I think your "snubbing" came from a couple of factors. First, your state was winner-take-all, and with Romney's background in the state, it was a contest where our chances were not as good as, say, New Hampshire. Second, remember that Dr. Paul was a sitting congressman, and he took his job seriously. I certainly wish he would have run "full-time," but the fact is that he valued very highly not missing any important votes. That constraint left the campaign with far less time with Ron that any of us would have liked, and so again, some people were bound to be disappointed. We had to focus Ron's time in some areas at the expense of others. So when you talk about the campaigning done by other candidates, keep in mind that they did not see themselves as being constrained in this way.
 
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