Msg from Jonathan Bydlak -- willing to answer questions

Haha... of course we did! I read the forums multiple times a day... so much so that I had to take it out of my favorites folder so I wouldn't read it as much.

Whether you knew it or not, we were aware and listening to what you were saying. We were kind of like Big Brother :D

I thought you would be, assuming that most people working on the campaign would be at least as obsessed as the rest of us on here, but sometimes it wasn't completely clear, Ron himself seemed to be kind of suprised at some of the crazy stuff people were doing. I wonder if he knows he was almost on the side of a Nascar:D
 
Yes, I'd like to know Jonathon's opinion about what Jonathon did. I'd like to know what he did right, and what he thinks he will do better next time.

We can all learn from each other's mistakes, but we need to be adult enough to not condemn each other for goals and opportunities that may have been missed.

Since it hasn't killed us, it should only make us stronger.

I'd also like to know of some resources for back office type stuff. Learning about PAC FEC regs, and Accounting standards for PACs.

Sure, this is a great question... probably the best yet.

Regardless of how much was a direct result of decisions made by me or others at HQ, I think it's tough to argue with how fundraising went. It was a huge process getting to the point of knowing how powerful transparency could be. I talked about this a bit to a group of students at George Washington. You might want to watch the first video here for that story: http://gwblogspot.blogspot.com/2008/02/ron-paul-staffers-speak-to-internet.html.

Some of my failings I touched on already in other contexts, but I'll mention a few more here:

Fundraising e-mails should have been more frequent, and clearer than they were. In a sense, I played the role of communicator with the grassroots, and I think that I needed to do a better job with that.

I also really fault myself for not seeing issues with other aspects of the campaign sooner than I did, and for not pushing them at all costs. A failing of being young, I guess...
 
Jonathan

1) Thanks so much for coming on the boards and answering our questions.

2) Thanks so much more for being a part of the official campaign.

Many of us here gave until it hurt (time and money), and can emphathize with your effort.
I hope you stick around. So far, your comments have been invaluable.

Thanks. It's good to know I'm still doing some good :)
 
Another question I've been wondering about:

Who wrote the Ron Paul emails to supporters? Did you hire a professional copywriter for that or was it someone from the campaign staff? I noticed that the tone changed significantly from one point forward; it was after one of the debates in November or December I think.
 
Hi Jonathan,
First off, thanks for letting me into the Palo Alto event in Oct/Nov. :-)

My question is: what are your thoughts NH? Was there anything more we could have done to win that state? Did the Ron Paul campaign know how Buchanan won in 92 & 96?

My main regret for the HQ is not winning NH. Can you imagine how this campaign would have unfolded if Paul not McCain won NH (McCain would not have gotten any early momementum).
 
Sure, this is a great question... probably the best yet.

Regardless of how much was a direct result of decisions made by me or others at HQ, I think it's tough to argue with how fundraising went. It was a huge process getting to the point of knowing how powerful transparency could be. I talked about this a bit to a group of students at George Washington. You might want to watch the first video here for that story: http://gwblogspot.blogspot.com/2008/02/ron-paul-staffers-speak-to-internet.html.

Some of my failings I touched on already in other contexts, but I'll mention a few more here:

Fundraising e-mails should have been more frequent, and clearer than they were. In a sense, I played the role of communicator with the grassroots, and I think that I needed to do a better job with that.

I also really fault myself for not seeing issues with other aspects of the campaign sooner than I did, and for not pushing them at all costs. A failing of being young, I guess...

Don't fault yourself. Just recognize it and learn form it. And as much as I hate to say it, part of that is probably Ron Paul's responsibility.

Just for the record, I loathe asking people for money, and can't possibly imagine doing what you did. I am very glad that you did it!

I have to say that I think Meet Up is not the best way to motivate people. I know I can now appreciate how hard it is to move people off of the internet and into the streets.
 
By running national ads. The money didn't just come in from Nh and IA, it came from all over, even from Kentucky and New Mexico.

I think the idea is not just running ads to influence immiediate voters, but to gain supporters all across the nation- supporters who would grow the momentum, donate, and encourage others to donate and get involved.

Basically, I think "we" should have used more of the money to spread the seed across the country, rather than just on fertilizing the early primary states with direct mailings.

As others have stated, if donators saw their money being spent on ads, they would've donated more--and the many people who saw the ads would've donated more. There was a large contigency of people on this board, and without im sure, who thought HQ was squandering the donations. Granted, how many of us have ever run a campaign, few. But I think that the reason people donated was for the sole reason to see national tv ads, and to let Ron Paul know he was loved. So, the disapointment of no national ads was catastrophic to donations.

So, while the decision was made to spend the money on frugal "good return on investment" direct mailings--- I personally wish that some effort had been made to analyze donations, the people's motives and how to best encourage future donations. People were donating to see national ads. National ads would've increased donations from those who donated previously, and found and encouraged new donators.

I'd like to say that I know that you are not personally responsible. But your comments about how ineffectual national ads would've been and how smart it was to spend millions of dollars spent on direct mailings is alarming.

I already talked in an earlier post about why I didn't think national ads made a lot of sense, so I'm not going to rehash those. But I'd like to address your point about needing to reach everyone. The fact is, in our current political system, everyone's vote is not equal. I've found this study by some Brown economists to be pretty enlightening: http://www.brown.edu/Administration/News_Bureau/2007-08/07-073.html.

I don't think direct mail is necessarily very important, but knowing that some states are more important than others, I do believe that targetting our money wisely is very important. The fact that money came in to the campaign from all around the country does not mean that the most efficient usage of those resources is to spend it in proportion to where it came from. Again, with limited resources, you have to focus them where you're going to get the "biggest bang for your buck."

But even still, do you really believe that national ads were what made the difference in this campaign? I think there's merit to what you're saying, but even if I grant you that national ads are a great idea, I don't believe they'd have had any real effect on the end results.
 
Jonathan, thank you so much for taking time to do this. Your knowledge and expertise at this point in the game is invaluable. Forum readership has really dropped off lately, as you probably are aware.

One of the most frustrating things for grassroots was that we didn't know/couldn't control what was going on at HQ once the moneybombs started happening. Your answers here will finally lay some of that speculation to rest, and we can get on with the campaign.

What do you think about the stories of delegates taking over their respective precinct/county conventions in states like TX, CO, and MN? Do you think this will give us enough delegates to have an impact at the National Convention... maybe enough to change party platforms or, at the very least, to let Ron speak? Or are we being ridiculously unrealistic by thinking this?
 
If, as Ron believes, it's all about the "message" rather than winning the Presidency, isn't that an even bigger argument for running as an Independent?

Millions of people are clamoring for real change but will never hear about the Ron Paul message because they didn't pay much attention to the Republican primaries in the first place. They will see the economy collapsing but they won't know what's happening to them and they'll never realize there was an alternative. Their lives will be ruined, their spirits weakened, their hopes for the future smashed. They will readily agree to more wars and loss of liberty, and all that only because Ron Paul didn't run as an Independent and use that platform to tell them what's really going on.

As for winning, to really succeed as an "educational campaign", you have to run it as if you actually wanted to win. If Ron hadn't stared down Stephanopoulos and made clear that he was in it for the win, he would have never attracted the massive grassroots attention that he got. If he had said from the beginning, "Let's be realistic, the chance is close to zero, but it's all about the message anyway", I'm sure that most of us wouldn't even have bothered.

Many of us here are young (or young at heart), and though we appreciate the education, we want a courageous hero, someone we can look up to, whose memory will inspire us for the rest of our lives, who was far from perfect but who nevertheless overcame his personal shortcomings and took the battle to the enemy against all odds.

Right now, Ron Paul will be remembered as an armchair revolutionary who happened to start a movement but then didn't know what to do with it. His recent waffling leaves a bad taste, has alienated many supporters and will have the effect of practically throwing away the chance of inspiring millions more about the message of freedom.

If he runs as an Independent and doesn't win, at least the "message" will have been heard by a larger part of the population than it would have been otherwise. And I do believe that Ron could actually win if he applies the lessons learned from the primaries. Here's a couple of things he could do:

1. Relentlessly attack Obama, Clinton and McCain and expose and analyze their lies and shenanigans. Instead of the "Daily Dose" it should be the "Daily Attack". Get this to the point where when Americans hear one of the "big three" make some promise or pronouncement, they will instinctively think, "I wonder what Ron Paul has to say about that?"

2. Tailor his messages to the audience he is speaking to. He must be brought to realize that this is the only way to actually educate them. Right now he just throws out facts that average people simply won't understand, nor will they care much because he doesn't explain how it affects them anyway.

3. Stop justifying his actions with weak expressions like "my supporters would be disappointed if I dropped out...", or "endorsing McCain would go against what I've talked about for the past 30 years, and nobody would understand it" and so on. Be a man and say "I'm doing that because I choose to and because it's what's best for America, period".

4. Meet with foreign leaders as the inofficial representative of his voters, a small but growing part of the US population that wants "peace, commerce and honest friendship" with all. Meet with Chavez, Castro and Ahmadinejad and expose them to the wonders of free markets and gold-backed currencies. There's some free worldwide publicity for ya.

5. Apply any and all the other lessons learned from the present campaign, including interactions with the press, etc.

What are your thoughts on this, Jonathan? Based on your personal knowledge of Ron Paul, do you think he would be open to reading a letter by supporters that would outline some of these points and persuade him that he should put the interests of the country first and "jump over his shadow" so he can reach new audiences rather than continuing to preach to the increasingly discouraged choir?

I believe that running as an Independent won't hamper the effort to retake the Republican party in any way. On the contrary, pursuing both paths at the same time could make things happen so much faster.

I really sympathize with these arguments, and part of me definitely agrees with you. But I also see running as independent as "putting all our eggs in our basket." Because if Ron were not to win that race -- and let's be honest, the chances of winning as an independent are never very good -- then he would destroy any legitimacy within the Republican party. And then where would our revolution go?

So in that sense, it's better to be a gracious loser, ready to work for something bigger, than be perceived as a sore loser who takes actions that undermine the party. Like it or not, we need this apparatus to accomplish all the things that we want to do.
 
Three Questions:

1) When the MSM started blitzing the airwaves with stories that Congressman Paul dropped out, why did it take so long to see a response from Dr. Paul correcting those stories?

2) Did HQ have any plans to contest the Texas vote? I read that only one fifth of his supporters that voted for him for congress also voted him for President which seems extremely unlikely. I also remember reading about other irregularities

3) Did HQ plan to take the Louisiana GOP to court over the blatant shenanigans during their caucus? I remembered seeing a video of Congressman Paul saying that they probably won Louisiana outright.

Sure, three answers:

1.) I'm not sure that Dr. Paul knows that is the best thing to do at this point. I have my views, and there ae definitely many different opinions among Ron's closest advisors. And honestly, that miscommunication got ron more press than we'd seen in months!

2.) I don't think that's an irregularity. It's perfectly reasonable to think that people in Ron's district like him as their congressman but don't think he'd make a good president, or that they prefer someone else to be their president. I don't personally see much irregularity there are all.

3.) I'm not sure at this point what's going on in Lousiana. I know there clearly were things that should not have gone on there, but at some point, you hae to pick which battles you fight. So I wouldn't be surprised if the decision ends up being to make the front lines of the revolution somewhere else.
 
Thank you for coming on Jonathan!

What was the deal with Neal (I'm a Libertarian, but...) Boortz?

I have no idea. So many "libertarians" just don't have the spines that I'd like to see. Just imagine how great it would have been in just two or three other congressman had stood up next to Ron and said "I'm a Republican, and I believe what Ron Paul does, too"...
 
I thought you would be, assuming that most people working on the campaign would be at least as obsessed as the rest of us on here, but sometimes it wasn't completely clear, Ron himself seemed to be kind of suprised at some of the crazy stuff people were doing. I wonder if he knows he was almost on the side of a Nascar:D

I'm not sure that Ron knows what Nascar is! :)

Just kidding (I think)
 
Another question I've been wondering about:

Who wrote the Ron Paul emails to supporters? Did you hire a professional copywriter for that or was it someone from the campaign staff? I noticed that the tone changed significantly from one point forward; it was after one of the debates in November or December I think.

As far as I know, all correspondence from Ron came directly from Ron. I'm sure he had other people giving him ideas and helping him craft his messages, but I don't really know much more than that.
 
Hi Jonathan,
First off, thanks for letting me into the Palo Alto event in Oct/Nov. :-)

My question is: what are your thoughts NH? Was there anything more we could have done to win that state? Did the Ron Paul campaign know how Buchanan won in 92 & 96?

My main regret for the HQ is not winning NH. Can you imagine how this campaign would have unfolded if Paul not McCain won NH (McCain would not have gotten any early momementum).

Yeah, these are great questions. I think the problem with New Hampshire wasn't so much the result itself, but our result relative to expectations. Unlike Iowa or South Carolina, people had expectations for Ron in New Hampshire, because of it's somewhat more libertarian bent. But I think that perception is somewhat unfounded... As McCain showed, the base there is still pretty hawkish, and so the expectations were probably unreasonable.

If you want my truthful answer, I really believe that winning New Hampshire would have required Ron spending virtually all of his time there, and campaigning at the level that Mitt Romney and John McCain were. But again, that wasn't realy feasible with Ron being a sitting congressman.
 
Jonathan, thank you so much for taking time to do this. Your knowledge and expertise at this point in the game is invaluable. Forum readership has really dropped off lately, as you probably are aware.

One of the most frustrating things for grassroots was that we didn't know/couldn't control what was going on at HQ once the moneybombs started happening. Your answers here will finally lay some of that speculation to rest, and we can get on with the campaign.

What do you think about the stories of delegates taking over their respective precinct/county conventions in states like TX, CO, and MN? Do you think this will give us enough delegates to have an impact at the National Convention... maybe enough to change party platforms or, at the very least, to let Ron speak? Or are we being ridiculously unrealistic by thinking this?

To be honest, I have no idea. But I wouldn't really worry about those things. Let's do as well as we can, and then worry about trying to get the most out of the convention that we can. I'm optimistic we can make a difference at the convention, but to start talking about the specifics that we'd be able to get is really just useless speculation.

And remember, whether Ron is at the convention or not, the influence that delegates may have can be significant. So at this point, I'd encourage people to be focused on getting involved in their local Republican party, regardless of what happens to the cmapaign.
 
I have no idea. So many "libertarians" just don't have the spines that I'd like to see. Just imagine how great it would have been in just two or three other congressman had stood up next to Ron and said "I'm a Republican, and I believe what Ron Paul does, too"...

I meant the booking of, then canceling of the scheduled interview on January 8th.

There seemed to be no conflict of timing as Neal reported Ron Paul was within eyeshot but then went to interview with some 'Ed' guy.

Was this to be a 'statement' against Neal's hostile interview style?
 
I meant the booking of, then canceling of the scheduled interview on January 8th.

There seemed to be no conflict of timing as Neal reported Ron Paul was within eyeshot but then went to interview with some 'Ed' guy.

Was this to be a 'statement' against Neal's hostile interview style?

No clue.
 
Jonathon, is there any way you can contact whoever is handling the Louisiana caucus mess? There are hundreds of people in the LA meetups awaiting an update of what's going on with it. So far we are the closest state for winning the caucus for Dr Paul and have been in the dark for a long long time as to what's happening. Thanks!
 
Hi Jonathan,

You’re doing a great job answering these questions; it’s very much appreciated. I’m wondering, now that the campaign is winding down, what vision does Ron Paul have for the future of the movement? I know that he is a reluctant leader, but what will become of the e-mail list of supporters? Also, would Ron Paul be willing to officially endorse the Republican Liberty Caucus as a vehicle for taking back the GOP? I know he has been involved with it in the past but I'm not sure how active the organization currently is.

Anyway, just some thoughts. Thanks for everything you’ve done, and continue to do!
 
Jonathon, is there any way you can contact whoever is handling the Louisiana caucus mess? There are hundreds of people in the LA meetups awaiting an update of what's going on with it. So far we are the closest state for winning the caucus for Dr Paul and have been in the dark for a long long time as to what's happening. Thanks!

Well, I can try to pass along that message, but I don't know that I can really do much more than that at this point.
 
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