Montana preparing to secede !

[belian78]

the guy purchased the gun from the same place the virginia tech shooter got his guns.....coincidence????

REALLY!? i did not know that.

 

[Dave Wood]

You all got to go to this link!!!!

http://www.blacktable.com/tyer040826.htm

If you think Montana wont be the first to seceed this time, this will wake you up!!


#6. We Got Your WMD Right Here, Buddy.

If Montana were to secede from the union to become its own sovereign nation (and don't push us, man, we'll do it), we would instantly become the world's fourth-largest (known) nuclear power. Innocuous white concrete bunkers sprouted in fields and valleys across 23,000 acres of central Montana contain some 200 Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missiles equipped with nuclear warheads and watched over by 55 "missileers" of the Air Force's 341st Space Wing. Don't mess with Texas? We've got three words for the Lone Star State: Bring. It. On.

 

[Cinderella]

“If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.”

thomas paine

agree....i have a four year old and i want the best for her even if it means i have to give myself

http://galloway.wordpress.com/2007/02/18/malcolm-x-the-ballot-or-the-bullet-speech/

 

[freelance]

Vermont, Tenn, SC have been meeting since early summer. It seems to be making more sense to me now, this uproar must be completely about 2nd amend and the supreme court.

I thought it was about impeachment when I first heard of the meetings......sounded a little harsh over impeachment. :o

Now it makes much more sense.

I can't imagine that the legislature would care about impeachment. Second Amendment makes much more sense. I'm tickled to death that TN is serious about this. THIS is something worth fighting for. I would sooner face fire over this than over a march in D.C.

 

[thePhilosopher]

Not a blip on the MSM radar, but some interesting stuff floating around the internet on it. I'd be extremely surprised if this develops into anything, though.

 

[BigFatRock]

I think secession can be pulled off without shedding of blood nowadays. I mean, it would be a PR nightmare for the U.S., and it may be the one time having the UN on our soil would come in handy. I have no doubt the UN (whether for doubtful motives or not) would come down on the side of "let it go."

Dave, is Virginia really fighting REAL ID? I hadn't heard that, but really hope they are.

 

[wv@SC]

You all got to go to this link!!!!

http://www.blacktable.com/tyer040826.htm

If you think Montana wont be the first to seceed this time, this will wake you up!!


#6. We Got Your WMD Right Here, Buddy.

If Montana were to secede from the union to become its own sovereign nation (and don't push us, man, we'll do it), we would instantly become the world's fourth-largest (known) nuclear power. Innocuous white concrete bunkers sprouted in fields and valleys across 23,000 acres of central Montana contain some 200 Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missiles equipped with nuclear warheads and watched over by 55 "missileers" of the Air Force's 341st Space Wing. Don't mess with Texas? We've got three words for the Lone Star State: Bring. It. On.

Dude, that is awesome!

 

[Bubba]

its almost like all these school shooting etc are made to scare the people so they willingly turn in their guns.....well im in mass...if vermont jumps ship ill move to vermont...thank god for these states

It's called: Problem-Reaction-Solution.

 

[leonster]

If only the Free State Project could be more successful and push for a similar strategy.

In the mean time maybe we need to work on a new, viral pledge of allegiance?

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Constitutional Republic for which it stands, a nation dedicated, above all else and as an inalienable right, to liberty for all.

 

[davidkachel]

If only the Free State Project could be more successful and push for a similar strategy.

In the mean time maybe we need to work on a new, viral pledge of allegiance?

The very concept of a pledge of allegiance is anathema to everything for which this country is supposed to stand. If you have a pledge of allegiance, OF ANY KIND, you are not free. Don't you get it?

 

[Bubba]

There's something to it...weird how the latest shooting involved a kid that was released from the MILITARY for psychological reasons. I think we would be shaken to the core if we knew the ins-and-outs and the extent of what military psy-ops is capable of.

I know, sounds conspiratorial, but there is too much dovetailing of recent events and what is concurrently going on at the federal level.

God gave us brains - don't let anyone tell you to dump yours in a basket.

Manchurian Candidates - every one of those school shootings. Notice how the kids never say a word? just blast away?

When someone goes "Postal" on their own volition, they always have something to bitch about - like a lost job so the manager gets it.

 

[Zeeder]

Does anyone have contact information for those in the Montana Government that support secession?

I believe some moral support is in order. We should all praise and encourage them for standing up for the Bill of Rights.

 

[leonster]

I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America
and to the Republic for which it protects
One nation, indivisible
For liberty and justice for all (no seriously we mean it, liberty and justice for ALL)

I like this too...

And have a copy of the Constitution on the wall of every classroom, next to the flag....

 

[katjust]

I support secession. I live in Texas now, but am from Wyoming. If Montana decided to secede (I don't actually see that language anywhere in the provided link), I would hope that Wyoming would agree to secede as well. I could see Wyoming seceding before Texas (even though there would definitely be and are a lot of Texans who want to secede now).

 

[klamath]

Whats a nice mountainous area of Montana, next to a river, deep in the woods, roughly 1-2 hours from any major city, go for these days, anyone familiar with Montana and it's real estate?

The prices of real estate skyrocketed in western Montana over the recent years but it might be going down now.
My son and family live around Thompson falls. Some in the militia movement are great at spouting about their rights being violated as long as their welfare and disability checks keep coming.

 

[LEK]

There's something to it...weird how the latest shooting involved a kid that was released from the MILITARY for psychological reasons. I think we would be shaken to the core if we knew the ins-and-outs and the extent of what military psy-ops is capable of.

I know, sounds conspiratorial, but there is too much dovetailing of recent events and what is concurrently going on at the federal level.

God gave us brains - don't let anyone tell you to dump yours in a basket.

WHY ARE WE TOLERATING THIS MADNESS?
http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter119.htm

It becomes obvious, in this, that the mind-altering prescription drugs are not being addressed because they serve the purpose of causing the problem for which the ultimate solution, the wanted solution, is the revocation of the Second Amendment: the right of every citizen to keep and bear arms. Bluntly speaking, the lives lost due to these mind-altering prescription drugs is a price willingly paid if the ultimate solution achieved is gun control to the point of gun confiscation and only the government having guns.

Further evidence of this lies in the oft repeated mantra that more guns equals more violence. What rubbish! Good fences make good neighbors and an armed society is also a polite society. If even one of the students in that lecture hall had had the means of defense, lives could have been saved.
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H.R. 3305: Anti-Terrorism Act of 2007
To provide for the safety of United States aviation and the suppression of terrorism.

Sponsor: Rep. Ronald Paul [R-TX](no cosponsors)

SEC. 2. AVIATION SAFETY AND SUPPRESSION OF TERRORISM.

Notwithstanding any other provision of law, no department or agency of the Federal Government shall prohibit any pilot, copilot, or navigator of an aircraft, or any law enforcement personnel specifically detailed for the protection of that aircraft, from carrying a firearm.

 

[Sandra]

AN EXTRA-SESSION RESOLUTION OF INDIVIDUAL LEGISLATORS OF THE 60TH MONTANA LEGISLATURE AND OTHER ELECTED MONTANA OFFICIALS URGING THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT THAT ANY "COLLECTIVE RIGHTS" HOLDING IN D.C. V. HELLER WILL VIOLATE MONTANA'S COMPACT WITH THE UNITED STATES, THE CONTRACT BY WHICH MONTANA ENTERED THE UNION IN 1889.

WHEREAS, the United States Supreme Court (Court) has agreed to review and decide the case of D.C. v. Heller appealed to it from the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals;

WHEREAS, the Court has agreed to consider the question, "Whether the following provisions — D.C. Code secs. 7-2502.02(a)(4), 22-4504(a), and 7-2507.02 — violate the Second Amendment rights of individuals who are not affiliated with any state-regulated militia, but who wish to keep handguns and other firearms for private use in their homes";

WHEREAS, when the Court determines in Heller whether or not the Second Amendment secures an individual right, the Court will establish precedent that will affect the State of Montana and the political rights of the citizens of Montana;


To establish breach of contract and release from contract.

WHEREAS, when Montana entered into statehood in 1889, that entrance was accomplished by a contract between Montana and the several states, a contract known as The Compact With The United States (Compact), found today as Article I of the Montana Constitution;

WHEREAS, with authority from Congress acting as agent for the several states, President Benjamin Harrison approved the Montana Constitution in 1889, which secured the right of "any person" to bear arms, clearly intended as an individual right and an individual right deemed consistent then with the Second Amendment by the parties to the contract;

WHEREAS, the wording of the Second Amendment and the Montana right to bear arms, now Article II, Section 12, exist today in form and wording identical to that agreed upon by the citizens of Montana and the United States in 1889 and unchanged since then; and

WHEREAS, a contract, compact or treaty must be implemented consistent with the terms and understandings in place at the time entered into.

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED by the undersigned members of the 60th Montana Legislature as follows:

1. That any form of "collective rights" holding by the Court in Heller will offend the Compact; and

2. That the Second Amendment and the Montana right to bear arms are both statements securing a preexisting right from government interference, and do not confer any boon of government upon the people; and

3. The level of review for the Montana right to bear arms and for the Second Amendment are specified within those declared rights -- "shall not be infringed" for the Second Amendment, and "shall not be called in question" for the Montana right to bear arms;

4. Montana reserves all usual rights and remedies under historic contract law if its Compact should be violated by any "collective rights" holding in Heller;
5. The undersigned incorporate by reference here a more thorough, attached explanation of the contract argument advanced; and

6. The undersigned legislators appreciate the attention of the Court to this argument on behalf of Montana and its citizens.

Supporting argument

Elected officials in concurrence:

Current list




to prove breach and dissolve contract.

 

[Sandra]

Bump

 

[garyallen59]

bump

 

[phoenixzorn]

So the Montana Secretary of State is agreeing to secession if the second amendment is ruled against by the Supreme Court. The most militia minded state in the union, and they thought they would stay if ya take their guns away?


http://www.progunleaders.org

I wish a bit of the shock of this would make it to Wisconsin and light a few fires under the asses of the people here, but we have this insulator stopping it called Minnesota... Most people in Wisconsin won't even notice if Montana Secedes....