the gop doesn't care if Mccain wins, or loses, this whole election process was setup to make Obama and Clinton look like moderate angels. despite them constantly voting for more war funding which the majority of people are oblivious to. There is only one party called the "war party", and their only job is to squash the opposition to their agenda.
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the gop doesn't care if Mccain wins, or loses, this whole election process was setup to make Obama and Clinton look like moderate angels. despite them constantly voting for more war funding which the majority of people are oblivious to. There is only one party called the "war party", and their only job is to squash the opposition to their agenda.
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Always call for a division of the assembly at this point. By parliamentary procedure, they can do nothing to deny this. Doesn't even need a second, and you can interrupt a speaker and do not need recognition.
Count all votes yourselves as well!
Voting for Obama is voting for the war party, zbigniew brzezinski is his advisor, that is all you really need to know and understand, and get it through your skull, it is Ron Paul Vs. Establishment/War Party
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No, that is just conspiratorial. They just realize they are screwed if they allow RP in.
Think about it; their pride and positions are threatened if they let Paul in. Then, it is tantamount to admitting they haven't been living up to their name. They risk upsetting the media. No, it has always been necessary to take it over.
Instead, they feel like the nomination was already decided, b/c mccain managed to compete and romney then surrendered early on. Of course it would be a fight with mccain, but romney surrendered so he could try to win later.
Well, I would vote third party instead of Obama. However, if you must vote for establishment, vote Obama. At least then you are doing the key: STOP MCCAIN!
Already, the Republicans are slated to lose congress. They believe that at this point the only way to maintain the republicans is to get mccain in the white house. So, conversely, if the republicans lose the white house, they have no power base.
Enter the RPR's. If somehow McCain loses, and Repubs mostly lose congress, the party will be more vulnerable than it was when the gang of 11 began back last year with the new presidential cycle. Our ideology can win! And WE will be in the system.
We have to pick our foes one at a time. Beat the neo-cons before you beat the socialists.
Nice letter, what I've been preaching for the last 6 months is really opposite your mentality. Everyone of you RP supporters should have become friends with this moron long ago, even write a side blog with his, if you used some smart politicking, some stealth, some cunning, maybe you would too be writing a blog entry of how honoured you are to have been elected as a delegate, of course only waiting for your opportunity to stick it to the scum. Knowing the game is rigged, if you intend to change the outcome of the game you too must also be involved in rigging the game
No, it is reality, and you are quite foolishly blind to not see it.
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I am not blind.
I know many Ron Paul Republicans believe there is a great willful cooperation between Democrats and Republicans. I believe it is a more incidental relationship producing the Republicrats, not so much a secret hush meeting between two great forces snickering about how screwed America is, but more of because there are only two preponderant forces in politics both can independently brush off a threat to each with relative ease.
However, I respect your opinion. Either way it truly is, the same result is produced: continued monopoly of the political system. Either way, the solution is the same: break the monopoly from within. Both parties are top-down organizations, which means the top is inherently a minority. So, bringing the American people's voice into the mix is key. To do that, the stranglehold must be broken.
I know many Ron Paul Republicans believe there is a great willful cooperation between Democrats and Republicans. I believe it is a more incidental relationship producing the Republicrats, not so much a secret hush meeting between two great forces snickering about how screwed America is, but more of because there are only two preponderant forces in politics both can independently brush off a threat to each with relative ease.
However, I respect your opinion. Either way it truly is, the same result is produced: continued monopoly of the political system. Either way, the solution is the same: break the monopoly from within. Both parties are top-down organizations, which means the top is inherently a minority. So, bringing the American people's voice into the mix is key. To do that, the stranglehold must be broken.
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There is no point. Paul is our man and we need to vote for him. I see what you are saying though, but dont give in, thats what they want. Vote PAUL.
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i bet storm the place with guns and large sticks, or thrown the cheats out in the street. but yeah......you will get jailed for that now.
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Most of my posts that are written in haste always come back to bite me in the ass. 
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I was a delegate supporting Ron Paul in Minnesota at the local and county levels. I am sick of the back room deals and the unfairness. I am writing in Ron Paul's name on the ballot in November. If this leads to a McCain loss- great! If I couldn't write in his name (we DO have write ins here), I would vote Libertarian or Constitution party. I think the Republican party NEEDS an overwhelming loss before it is willing to listen and make changes. We must continue to work for change and spread the truth!
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Can you write in a name on an electronic voting machine?
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No, but what's your point? We were using manual paper ballots at the convention.
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The post before mine was stating that they would write in RP at election time...
I was wondering how he would do that?
Where I live in Minnesota we use paper ballots that we mark on and can write in a name. Hopefully, that situation is still in place for this year's election! I don't know if it is possible with electronic machines- if not, that's when I would vote third party.
As far as I know, write-ins in MN have to be registered as write-ins, and that for us to vote for Ron Paul, we would have to write in "Ronald Ernest Paul" on the ballot. While, my original plan was to have a write in, I think the RP movement will move towards the libertarian party candidate and therefore we should all unify and vote for Bob Barr.
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There may well be collusion between parties if the info I was given was correct.
A supporter told me that mccain had coauthored 86 bills with clinton and obama last year. I have not had time to verify this information, so take it with a grain of salt.
If true, that would make him even worse than I thought.
And that's really hard to do.
A supporter told me that mccain had coauthored 86 bills with clinton and obama last year. I have not had time to verify this information, so take it with a grain of salt.
If true, that would make him even worse than I thought.
And that's really hard to do.
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