Minimum Wage

[fr33]

On moral grounds, yes. However, it is already established so I say raise it to $25/hr and let everyone see just how destructive market manipulation can be to the economy. Plus, the Austrians would start sounding compassionate. Win/Win.

If destruction of this sham of system is the goal, might as well support open borders, welfare, pork barrel spending, etc.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

What a $10.10 minimum wage looks like:

That might save a grocery store money, but not because of minimum wage. The vast majority of grocery store cashiers make more than $10.10/hr. I believe the national average is around $15/hr.

 

[Zippyjuan]

I don't like self check-out usually. I would rather support a person working.

 

[2young2vote]

Hm, I can hire a crappy 18 year old employee for $9.00 per hour, or i can hire a crappy 30 year old employee for $10.00 who has this so called "experience" that people on here seem to believe has something to do with how much an employee is worth. If they are going to work 1000 hours in a year, you would be adding $1000 or more to the payroll for the older employee simply because some fools from the government say to do that. Having a progressive minimum wage would do nothing but create more wage differences based on age, but this time probably in the opposite direction from what it currently is.

No, age and experience have nothing to do with the quality of an employee and determining how much they should be paid. We have an employee who is young and is an excellent employee. If we give her a raise to the same level as the older employee because that is what we determined she is worth compared to what she could be making at her minimum wage level, why should she be earning the same amount as the older employee who is not as good? That is just more unfairness in the work places perpetrated by the government and doesn't improve the situation at all.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Hm, I can hire a crappy 18 year old employee for $9.00 per hour, or i can hire a crappy 30 year old employee for $10.00 who has this so called "experience" that people on here seem to believe has something to do with how much an employee is worth. If they are going to work 1000 hours in a year, you would be adding $1000 or more to the payroll for the older employee simply because some fools from the government say to do that. Having a progressive minimum wage would do nothing but create more wage differences based on age, but this time probably in the opposite direction from what it currently is.

No, age and experience have nothing to do with the quality of an employee and determining how much they should be paid. We have an employee who is young and is an excellent employee. If we give her a raise to the same level as the older employee because that is what we determined she is worth compared to what she could be making at her minimum wage level, why should she be earning the same amount as the older employee who is not as good? That is just more unfairness in the work places perpetrated by the government and doesn't improve the situation at all.

Not sure what you are saying with your examples here.

What wage differences exist now and what would this create?

As for the girl, a good worker should make more than a bad worker. Minimum wage is a minimum. It's not a forced or fixed wage. Why not pay the girl more than the older worker?

Yes, if you are an employer, and it is a low skill job, hire a teenager if you can find a good worker who wants to work at that rate. Why would you hire a 30 year old for that type of job, if there are better employee available at a lower wage?

Great employees can demand greater pay than minimum wage no matter how old they are. Minimum wage is just a minimum, not fixed pay or price fixing.

It sounds like you want minimum wage to be a way for government to enforce equal pay for equal work.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I don't like self check-out usually. I would rather support a person working.

I don use them that often, but my experience is about a third of the time something goes wrong requiring the person to come over and fix it. In California, some things can't be purchased with the self check machines.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

I don't like self check-out usually. I would rather support a person working.

I've never used the self check-out myself. But when the minimum wage goes up to a certain point (where it costs more to keep cashiers on the payroll than they are worth to the employer), the machines will become the norm.

 

[Travlyr]

If destruction of this sham of system is the goal, might as well support open borders, welfare, pork barrel spending, etc.

I do support all of that. They do it anyway. The more the merrier. Let's get this sham overwith.

 

[Travlyr]

The problem is that the first "they" (the priveleged few who control the levers on the money supply) and the second "they" (the employers who would be forced to pay higher wages) are not the same people. You would be forcing the latter group to pay for the excesses of the former. Employers further down the chain of Cantillon effects (i.e., the vast majority of employers) are victimized just as much by wage controls as their employees are, albeit in different ways.

In the current system, "they" are one and the same. The Pilgrims.

Its purpose is to foster better Anglo-American relationships through cooperation of top banking and manufacturing institutions.

And government.

 

[fr33]

I do support all of that. They do it anyway. The more the merrier. Let's get this sham overwith.

I agree with you.

 

[gwax23]

Good to see you cowboys come to an agreement.

 

[oyarde]

I never use a self checkout, I just leave if I see that shit . It never works and is useless .I do not need the aggravation .

 

[AZJoe]

 

[AZJoe]

 

[The Gold Standard]

I never use a self checkout, I just leave if I see that shit . It never works and is useless .I do not need the aggravation .

If I see a self checkout that is open, I always go there first. I'm much faster than some idiot cashier. Of course, if there are people in line for the self checkout, I might as well wait for a cashier, because the typical idiot shopper is much slower.

 

[DamianTV]

I think Minimum Wage is only ever really needed where a truly Free Market is repressed. Minimum Wage really causes more problems than it solves. For one, it tells both the Employers and Workers what a "reasonable wage" is for whatever the job itself entails, be it a low skill job or a high skill job. For smaller businesses, it can often mean less total jobs in order to pay for those who that small company decides to keep. Minimum Wage is another "good intentioned" socialist solution when a lack of Free Market solutions is never sought. Offer to pay a doctor 5 bucks an hour and see how many doctors are beating down your door to work for you. Pretty soon tho, taking those 5 dollar an hour jobs will be mandatory at the rate we are heading. If jobs dont pay enough, then people should walk away from them.

 

[Swordsmyth]

[h=3]The Dark Truth About the Minimum Wage[/h]

 

[AZJoe]