Military Rolls Tanks Onto St. Louis Streets...But Why?

It's amusing to watch you guys panic about this now. I grew up hearing about people just a small island over, on US property, suffering the effects of depleted uranium shells that were littering their beaches. The children would play with them and --- oops --- cancer rates are somehow sky-high. Nothing like a bombing range where a nearby death or two is okay. No one cared. Now it's mainland streets and suddenly it's a scandal.

Or maybe if that's tl;dr...

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Of note: this is a situation that was finally resolved via a series of protests and political threats. It's not being cleaned up satisfactorily, but at least the Navy is no longer using that area for that purpose.

If I knew about it, hell yes it'd be scandalous and atrocious. But just like what's happening to mainland America, I have no fucking idea what to do about it.

If you want to claim that I wouldn't care just because it's Puerto Rico, you're sadly mistaken. I'm trying like hell to prevent my government from bombing the shit out of places that are much farther removed than that.
 
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Let me take a non-conspiracy theory shot at this.

They said the unit was from Ft. Meade, MD (not Ft. Detrick). I was stationed at Meade ~20 years ago. Lots of MP units there, with nothing better to do than write speeding tickets (never speed at Ft. Meade).

Fort Leonard Wood MISSOURI is the main training base for all Army military police.

The MP unit from Meade was actually coming down from Ft. Leonard Wood and just drove to St Louis MISSOURI to train an Army Reserve unit.

So lets give this a shot (this ain't going to be nearly as much fun as a good conspiracy theory, but what the Hell):

An MP Unit from MD goes to Ft Leonard Wood, MO to train on a new piece of equipment- that's logical- MPs train at Ft Leonard Wood just as military Medical people train at Ft Sam Houston Texas.

After receiving training, the unit drives down the road a bit to show the new vehicle to an Army Reserve MP Unit and familiarize them with it.

Typical every day stuff in the Army.

No FEMA camps. No conspiracy. Not even particularly wasteful by government standards.

BTW, for those who are wondering, both Ft. Meade and Ft Detrick are very small bases with almost no land for field training. When I was active duty stationed at Meade, we used a Maryland national guard base for field training (weapons qualification and the like).
 
Let me take a non-conspiracy theory shot at this.

They said the unit was from Ft. Meade, MD (not Ft. Detrick). I was stationed at Meade ~20 years ago. Lots of MP units there, with nothing better to do than write speeding tickets (never speed at Ft. Meade).

Fort Leonard Wood MISSOURI is the main training base for all Army military police.

The MP unit from Meade was actually coming down from Ft. Leonard Wood and just drove to St Louis MISSOURI to train an Army Reserve unit.

So lets give this a shot (this ain't going to be nearly as much fun as a good conspiracy theory, but what the Hell):

An MP Unit from MD goes to Ft Leonard Wood, MO to train on a new piece of equipment- that's logical- MPs train at Ft Leonard Wood just as military Medical people train at Ft Sam Houston Texas.

After receiving training, the unit drives down the road a bit to show the new vehicle to an Army Reserve MP Unit and familiarize them with it.

Typical every day stuff in the Army.

No FEMA camps. No conspiracy. Not even particularly wasteful by government standards.

BTW, for those who are wondering, both Ft. Meade and Ft Detrick are very small bases with almost no land for field training. When I was active duty stationed at Meade, we used a Maryland national guard base for field training (weapons qualification and the like).

Why exactly do MPs need APCs? Are they going to be writing speeding tickets to the terrorists in Afghanistan? Do they have to make arrests while taking machine gun fire? Or do they just need to haul a bunch of people around at once? If they need to haul a bunch of people around at once, they make school buses for that, and probably cheaper too.
 
Martial Law Training in St. Louis As Military Police Train To Drive Tanks Through the Streets of America

“Training Exercises” such as this have been occurring more frequently and a very credible link can be drawn between this exercise and a recent DHS Informant who indicated that plans are being made for Martial Law due to Civil Unrest or War.

KSDK.com, whose news slogan is “Where the News Comes First”, posted a brief video and explained away the training as “Army Training” – yet military troops training on the streets is highly unusual and rare.

The video and brief coverage lacks any depth and is a disservice to their readers; some were so alarmed that many thought Martial Law was in progress.

The coverage is a video titled Don’t be alarmed; U.S. Army training in North City, with a warning as pathetic as the coverage”
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Note from Alex Thomas: This is the corporate media telling you, do not be alarmed the military is just in your city training to take on the American people. No big deal here. (As they directly lie to you by pretending its not for use in America)

This event was not very prominent on the KSDK.com news site.

No additional information seems to be available on KSDK.com which is owned by Gannet Company who owns a major segment of media.

Gannet Companies owns Army Times Publishing Company – publications include Army Times, Navy Times, Air Force Times, Marine Corps Times, Defense News and Federal Times.

It’s important to note that there is no mention of this week long “Military Exercise” on the Army Times site.

That would indicate that the exercise is either classified or the public awareness was to be kept to a minimum – why?
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National Guard and U.S. Army troops are routinely involved in ‘urban warfare training’ drills.

Usually such drills take place within the confines of military bases, however, more recently heavily armed troops are increasingly seen patrolling residential neighborhoods and even the downtown areas of major US cities.

Such “invasions” are often reported on as nothing to worry about and even as “cool” by the mainstream media. Back in 2008 the Washington Post reported how 20,000 U.S. troops returning from Iraq would be stationed inside America under Northcom for purposes of “domestic security” from September 2011 onwards.

Northcom officials were forced to subsequently issue a denial after the Army Times initially reported that the troops would be used to deal “with civil unrest and crowd control.””

It is reasonable to be concerned about a Military Exercise such as this – regardless of what the official explanation is.

One question for the debunkers – would the government come out and say,

We’re practicing for Martial Law and Civil Unrest…?

h/t Strike the Root

More police statism in St. Louis:

Lie Down with the Idiotic Idea of a "Homeland Security" Department ...

... get up with raids on flea markets to combat the existential threat of fake Coach bags and DVD burns of hit movies.
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So ... is a knock-off DVD of Madagascar 3 a "homeland security" matter?

The alleged theory underlying that assertion seems to be that such "piracy" is a finance channel for international terrorism. Poppycock. Anyone selling anything anywhere could conceivably be using the profits to finance international terrorism. And if they're paying taxes on their revenues to the US government, they're certainly financing international terrorism.

The real reason that pair of faux-Nike tennis shoes you got for 15% of the "real thing's" retail price is considered a "homeland security" affair is that the companies which make their profits off of state-created monopolies spend part of those profits on bribing/extorting politicians to protect those profits with your tax dollars...
 
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If I knew about it, hell yes it'd be scandalous and atrocious. But just like what's happening to mainland America, I have no fucking idea what to do about it.

If you want to claim that I wouldn't care just because it's Puerto Rico, you're sadly mistaken. I'm trying like hell to prevent my government from bombing the shit out of places that are much farther removed than that.

No, it's a matter of knowledge of a subject, and we all have to decide what to learn (we cannot each be educated on every nuance of every subject at all times). I'm saying it's already happened before, it happened for many years, and there are other things I could blab about all day on this subject (like soldiers being drafted to fight in a war ordered by a President they could not vote for). I'm also saying that a lot of social programs and other "tactics" are tested out in PR first. Imagine having your birth certificate voided for your own protection, or any of the aforementioned things. Imagine a level of welfare dependence that causes you to become a ward of the State whether you will it or not, just because the entire island is beholden to people you have no say in electing. It sucks. It's coming to the mainland, little by little.
 
Why exactly do MPs need APCs? Are they going to be writing speeding tickets to the terrorists in Afghanistan? Do they have to make arrests while taking machine gun fire? Or do they just need to haul a bunch of people around at once? If they need to haul a bunch of people around at once, they make school buses for that, and probably cheaper too.

Military Police are SOLDIERS. They don't just sit back stateside and write tickets.

They perform a wide variety of jobs when deployed, including guarding convoys, base security, and even conduct combat patrols at times. Hence, they use APCs, just as they always have. Thirty+ years ago, they used M113s. Now they use this new vehicle.

Not a big deal.
 
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