[Milei WINS!] Javier Milei, Austrian econ. prof. & ancap, runs for president of Argentina

[Snowball]

a fraud and Fed/Zio plant if I ever saw one.

 

[Occam's Banana]

I am sure his going to do all of the things he promises....

snark fail

Of course he isn't gong to do all the things he promises. He won't be able to do them all.

The same thing would have been the case if Ron Paul had become POTUS.

 

[ClaytonB]

He doesn't want the USD to be temporary...

Cite it.

Like some Far Right Globalists.

None. They are 100% pro-central banking / fiat money warmongers. They know which side their bread is buttered on. They may do lip-service to the Austrian school for clicks, likes and votes, but that is all. If Milei is putting on a show and this is what they think counts as lip-service to Austrian economics, then we need a lot more of that kind of lip-service.

 

[ClaytonB]

The level of COPE in this thread is astounding. It's like a chess-hustler when he blunders his queen and then tries to act like "I meant to sacrifice that piece". Get REAL. Until proven otherwise, the globalists / Left / Deep State have been delivered a hammer-blow with the win of Milei in Argentina. They don't even like talking about the subject of central-banking and here we have a populist, anti-central-banking maniac promising to take a chainsaw to the entire socialist/bureaucratic state of Argentina... sure, they "meant to" sacrifice that queen... sure...

 

[Occam's Banana]

I'm not sure what the gun laws are in Argentina, and I'd like to know his position on that.

I've seen him described as being "pro-gun" - which is not a surprise, given his general political philosophy, and his particular positions on other issues. But I've never seen any details reported. The following example is pretty typical:

Meet Javier Milei, the front-runner to be Argentina’s next president
The radical libertarian gives an interview to The Economist
https://www.economist.com/the-ameri...e-frontrunner-to-be-argentinas-next-president
The Economist | 07 September

[...]

Mr Milei is a climate-change sceptic. His liberalism does not extend to pro-choice sentiment: were he to be elected, he would try to ban abortions. He would relax gun laws. He seems unaware that bashing the leaders of Argentina’s top trading partners, Brazil and China, may hurt the country’s trade and foreign investment. Although he says he wants to open Argentina up to free trade, he suggests pulling out of Mercosur, a trade bloc composed of Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay, which may soon get a free-trade agreement with the European Union.

[...]

(They seem more bothered by the fact he wants to pull out of free managed trade deals.)

Absent further details, I think it's a good bet he's pretty radically libertarian on gun issues.

 

[CaptUSA]

Let's all cheer for the corrupt B-actor making bold statements, some curses. This will surely keep the masses interested in the political $hitshow!
No doubt in my mind that this zionist pig will support Israel's brutal assault in Gaza...

Psychopath

I don't celebrate anyone that Ben Shapiro cheers.

I am sure his going to do all of the things he promises....

a fraud and Fed/Zio plant if I ever saw one.

Man, what is wrong with you all?! Is he going to succeed? Is he being used?? Is he a fraud?? Will TPTB wreck Argentina's economy as an example for any other country considering Austrian economics as a model for governance??

I have no idea. But damn - this is a victory. The people of Argentina elected a libertarian-minded Austrian economist because they were tired of the bullshit! This is nothing but a good thing! Hows about we take a little wait and see and wish him the best of luck?!

 

[Occam's Banana]

I don't celebrate anyone that Ben Shapiro cheers.

I have to agree with you on that.

"We let Ben Shapiro do our thinking for us."

 

[Occam's Banana]

That is a bad thing by getting rid of the Argentinan Peso and replacing it with the US dollar.

This already has the markings of regime change led alone by forcing Argentinan people to have the US dollar as the main currency.

Right - because it would be so much better if Argentines were forced to continue using Argentinian pesos instead ...

If I had to choose between the United States dollar and the Argentina peso, it's not even a contest.

 

[WarriorLiberty]

Cite it.



None. They are 100% pro-central banking / fiat money warmongers. They know which side their bread is buttered on. They may do lip-service to the Austrian school for clicks, likes and votes, but that is all. If Milei is putting on a show and this is what they think counts as lip-service to Austrian economics, then we need a lot more of that kind of lip-service.

Considering the clown in Argentina refers his allies "US/Israel" as neutral allies of Argentina says a lot on his stances..

 

[cjm]

If I had to choose between the United States dollar and the Argentina peso, it's not even a contest.

You're not alone.

Throughout Brazil, Argentina and Bolivia, companies routinely hold a minimal proportion of their money in domestic currencies, converting the remainder into a more stable currency whenever possible. Most often they turn to the U.S. dollar.

https://archive.org/details/TheHyperinflationSurvivalGuideStrategiesForAmericanBusinesses/mode/2up

 

[Snowball]

It should be easy to see what's really going on here. Rather obvious.
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Karina Milei, the strategist behind the phenomenon that challenges traditional politics

"Karina is the one who thinks of Milei as a brand. She is the one who devised the rock aesthetic that every presentation of the deputy has . She thought about the staging, the videos that illustrate the preview, the music, the way the economist enters the audience: the entire staging."

https://www-lanacion-com-ar.transla...uto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

"Milei called Julio Goldestein, a politician in his party and his conduit to the Jewish community, to meet at a hotel. Goldestein suggested some ways to restrain the attacks, and proposed an introduction to Shimon Axel Wahnish, the chief rabbi of the Moroccan Jewish community of Argentina (ACILBA).

Goldestein accompanied Milei to that first meeting with Wahnish, but he did not go in for their interview. “They spoke at length, and then it turned into a kabbalistic meeting in which the rabbi noted that Javier would lead a liberationist movement in Argentina. Milei left the meeting excited,” Goldestein told me. From then on, Milei studied Torah with Wahnish."

"“If you are Jewish,” he told me, “because your mother is Jewish, you are not obligated to comply with the precepts of Judaism. If you convert, you are obligated to."

"He hadn’t made public his trip or his reasons for it: to visit the tomb of Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, known as the Lubavitcher Rebbe."

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/argentina-jewish-trump-javier-milei

"An analysis of the Milei phenomenon cannot fail to take into account the self-image that this candidate offers to his followers, the way in which he challenges them. In this sense, the image of the lion is significant and explains part of the economist's appeal. Milei challenges his followers from the image of the lion. He summons them to roar. He offers them an image of themselves that connotes power. He resorts, again, to prophecy. To the image of the lion is attached the verse, taken from Amos, “When the lion roars, who will not fear?” It is not the image of those who need protection, of those who are promised that they will be defended. The lion does not need to be defended. And it is here where we can better identify the components of that Judaism that attracts Milei. Because there are many Judaisms. Milei's is a pre and post exilic Judaism"

https://www-pagina12-com-ar.transla...=es&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Javier Milei, expert in economics, sexual threesomes and tantric sex: "I can go three months without ejaculating"

https://www-infobae-com.translate.g...=es&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Homosexuality and elephants: Milei's hilarious comparison

https://www-agencianova-com.transla...=es&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

A Jewish contact put the former economist in touch with Rabbi Shimon Axel Wahnish, with whom Milei had a “cabalistic” encounter in which he was told he would lead a liberation movement in his home country.

The word “cabalistic” is a reference to Kabbalah, a mystic branch of Judaism. Milei is reported to have an interest in eastern mysticism and has worked as a tantric sex coach.

Milei’s has continued his relationship with Wahnish, with the latter serving as Milei’s Torah tutor

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-argentina-javier-milei-president-elect-who

Argentina's President-Elect, Javier Milei, To Visit The U.S. And Israel Before Taking Office

The president-elect said that the trip holds "more of a spiritual connotation" and that he plans to meet with his "rabbi friends" both in Miami and New York.

https://www.latintimes.com/argentin...i-visit-us-israel-before-taking-office-549032

Wiki page has some real doozies, like channeling his dog clones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javier_Milei

 

[Occam's Banana]

Do you know who is also happy about Javier Milei win? Ukraine as well because they know they will be supported by Argentina and Argentina will deliver weapons and money.

LMAO! Yeah, Ukraine and scores of other countries are just lined up around the block waiting for their handout from Argentina, whose economy is currently in shambles...

LMAO

It's bizarre, ain't it?

They just make this shit up out of thin air - and apparently, they expect it to be taken seriously.

I should be well past being surprised by such nonsense, but it still manages to astonish me sometimes.

What has the Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro had done anything differently after being in power?

It seems for a far right president in Brazil he had no issues on deforesting parts of amazon rainforest.

Record deforestation in Brazil’s Amazon rainforest shows challenge facing Lula

Ah, I see... closeted leftist didn't pull the door shut quite tight enough.

I've already asked him a couple of times why he's siding with the socialists, but I have yet to get an answer:

[...], I'll just repeat my earlier question:

Why are you and socialists like SDL on the same side?

I'm not holding my breath.

Oh, and looky here! More pinko commie bullshit:

The Clown of Argentina wants to sell the oil company YPF.

The Clown is trying to sell the Oil company and other companies only after he pushes for certain values to make it affordable for those accounts to be sold.

Milei, who will take office on Dec. 10, said in a radio interview he expects his government to "create value" for the companies "so they can be sold in a very beneficial way for Argentines".

Right wing libertarian candidate Milei, who beat out Economy Minister Sergio Massa by a wider-than-expected margin, has promised to revamp the ailing Argentine economy largely through promoting the local use of the US dollar, and said he would consider a sale of YPF and other state-controlled firms to boost public accounts.

Good! Selling off state-owned oil assets is 100%-solid libertarian policy.

Thank you for further confirming Milei's libertarian bona fides.

 

[WarriorLiberty]

Man, what is wrong with you all?! Is he going to succeed? Is he being used?? Is he a fraud?? Will TPTB wreck Argentina's economy as an example for any other country considering Austrian economics as a model for governance??

I have no idea. But damn - this is a victory. The people of Argentina elected a libertarian-minded Austrian economist because they were tired of the bull$#@!! This is nothing but a good thing! Hows about we take a little wait and see and wish him the best of luck?!

this is a victory. The people of Argentina

Which people of Argentina?


This was victory for the TPTB just wait and see.
I see those who cheered for Brazil's bolsonaro are quiet.

As some on the "Far Right" they are cheering on Argentina's Boris Johnson.

 

[CaptUSA]

It should be easy to see what's really going on here. Rather obvious.

You're pathetic. It IS obvious to see what's going on here.... The biggest white pill in a very long time in that the people of Argentina chose a candidate with the message of Austrian economics and radically reducing the size and scope of government on the people. But YOU want to piss on it and throw out a bunch of tabloid garbage.

I'm sure glad you weren't around when Washington crossed the Delaware to take Trenton!

 

[WarriorLiberty]

You're pathetic. It IS obvious to see what's going on here.... The biggest white pill in a very long time in that the people of Argentina chose a candidate with the message of Austrian economics and radically reducing the size and scope of government on the people. But YOU want to piss on it and throw out a bunch of tabloid garbage.

I'm sure glad you weren't around when Washington crossed the Delaware to take Trenton!

The biggest white pill in a very long time in that the people of Argentina chose a candidate

Its amusing you actually believe that.

 

[Snowball]

You're pathetic. It IS obvious to see what's going on here.... The biggest white pill in a very long time in that the people of Argentina chose a candidate with the message of Austrian economics and radically reducing the size and scope of government on the people. But YOU want to piss on it and throw out a bunch of tabloid garbage.

I'm sure glad you weren't around when Washington crossed the Delaware to take Trenton!

I dare you to read my post and say who the tabloid garbage REALLY IS.

It's not me. Those are the facts. If you like them, fine, but I don't have to endorse them.

 

[Occam's Banana]

He doesn't want the USD to be temporary...

You should just stop making a fool of yourself.

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The Economist: And if you eliminate the central bank here, wouldn’t Argentina still be governed by a central bank, but just by the Fed instead?

Javier Milei: But again, it is a system of currency competition. That is to say, you can liquidate the central bank in dollars, but the currency you use can be any currency.

I mean, that’s another part of intellectual dishonesty.

The Economist: So the idea is that for a period of time there would be a system of competing currencies?

Javier Milei: There will always be that, there will always be currency competition.

The Economist: And in this context, the dollar has won

Javier Milei: Well Argentines have historically chosen the dollar, but it does not have to be the dollar. If you are an oil company, you can make your contracts in WTI, who cares? If you are in gas, in BTU. And if you are a farmer and you farm soybeans, you can choose the price of soybeans in Chicago.

The Economist: But if the government’s big goal is to eliminate the central bank and at the end of the day you will still be dependent on the US central bank [is that a contradiction]?

Javier Milei: The main objective is to exterminate inflation.

The Economist: By eliminating the central bank

Javier Milei: The central bank is a major cause of inflation. And yes it is a philosophical question because stealing is wrong.

It is up to the agents to decide whether they want to be robbed by the American state, by the European Union or by the...

The Economist: So the Fed is fine, but the central bank of Argentina is not...

Javier Milei: No, neither is the Fed.

The Economist: But it is the lesser evil.

Javier Milei: Yes, now we are getting there! That is the point. If I tell you there was a central bank that generated 100% inflation during the 21st century, what would you call it?

The Economist: You would call it a scam.

Javier Milei: Well, it is indeed a scam and well, the Federal Reserve is just that.

The Economist: A scam.

Javier Milei: All central banks are a scam. The Federal Reserve in the last... so far in the 21st century, it has generated 100% inflation.

So the US central bank, the Federal Reserve is bad. Then there are central banks that are very bad. Then there are those that are appallingly bad. And then there is the Central Bank of the Argentine Republic, which is the worst thing in the universe.

The Economist: Could crypto play a role?

Javier Milei: No, no... I don’t know, that is the decision of agents. For example, in Guatemala, companies engaged in coffee production issued their own currency.

In fact, currency is a private sector invention, not the invention of a bureaucrat.

since he is from the Austrian school of economics

Like some Far Right Globalists.

No, really. You should stop.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Man, what is wrong with you all?! Is he going to succeed? Is he being used?? Is he a fraud?? Will TPTB wreck Argentina's economy as an example for any other country considering Austrian economics as a model for governance??

I have no idea. But damn - this is a victory. The people of Argentina elected a libertarian-minded Austrian economist because they were tired of the bullshit! This is nothing but a good thing! Hows about we take a little wait and see and wish him the best of luck?!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to CaptUSA again.

If the strategy of TPTB involves maximizing the exposure of uncompromisingly fire-breathing libertarian rhetoric, then slap a "Fed/Zio" sticker on my forehead and call me "controlled opposition". Yeah, baby!

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
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[Occam's Banana]

Cite it.

Considering the clown in Argentina refers his allies "US/Israel" as neutral allies of Argentina says a lot on his stances..

LOL

In other words, you have no citation.

 

[vita3]

US ambassador to Argentina must be happy as a shekel today:

Ambassador Stanley also spent most of his career as a political activist, Jewish community leader, and philanthropist. He previously served as President of the Texas Trial Lawyers Association and the Dallas Trial Lawyers Association. In public service roles, he served as Chairman of the Texas Public Finance Authority (appointed by Texas Governor Ann Richards), a Member of the Board of Visitors of the Air University of the United States Air Force (appointed by Secretary Bill Cohen), and a Council Member of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum (appointed by President Barack Obama).

He has also been a leader of Jewish charitable and political organizations, including six years as Chairman of the National Jewish Democratic Council and on the Executive Committee of the Israel Policy Forum. In addition, Ambassador Stanley served as Chairman of the Legacy Senior Communities, a Jewish-sponsored, not-for-profit charitable organization in Dallas, TX.