[Milei WINS!] Javier Milei, Austrian econ. prof. & ancap, runs for president of Argentina

[WarriorLiberty]

Out of the woodwork, indeed.

It's enough to make you wonder who the "controlled opposition" really is, ain't it?

I do remember some on the far right were cheering and celebrating after Giorgia Meloni won.


Giorgia Meloni the "Populist" who has done nothing on her promises and still allows human traffickers to land in Italy.


dont get your hopes up.

 

[WarriorLiberty]

Says the guy who believes what the WEF wants him to believe.



So what? I don't have a problem with oil companies making profits.

That's because, like Javier Milei, I am not a pinko commie.

But I bet the SDL guy in my previous post doesn't like oil companies making profits.

What do the people get in return for their poorer communities in Argentina?

 

[Occam's Banana]

Lets look at his foreign policy record/promises shall see?

Trying to freeze Freezing Argentina’s Relations With China and Russia is quite a dream that hawks want to see happen in most Latin/South countries.

How Reality Upsets Milei’s Dream of Freezing Argentina’s Relations With China

Even this article by BNN really shows what this clown want to do.

That is to push Argentina out of the trade bloc with Brazil.

Which would be idiotic at best.

Argentina's relations with China, Russia, Israel, Ukraine, etc., etc. are Argentina's business.

I don't give a damn what his foreign policy is, as long as it is not interventionist.

And let me get this straight: are you really denouncing Milei as a tool of the "globalists" while also bitching about the possibility that he will take or keep Argentina out of things like Mercosur and BRICS (and citing sources like Bloomberg when you do it)?

Good lord ...

I do remember some on the far right were cheering and celebrating after Giorgia Meloni won.

Giorgia Meloni the "Populist" who has done nothing on her promises and still allows human traffickers to land in Italy.

dont get your hopes up.

Dafuq?

What the hell does Meloni have to do with any of this - let alone "human traffickers"?

You black-pillers will just latch on to any random, arbitrary thing, won't you?

What do the people in Argentina from these oil companies making a profit for the US based oil companies?

You keep asking questions without answering any.

So instead of trying to answer that one (which I can't understand anyway), I'll just repeat my earlier question:

Why are you and socialists like SDL on the same side?

What do the people get in return for their poorer communities in Argentina?

I don't care - because I am not a pinko commie.

(I bet Massa cared, though. I bet he cared a lot.)

 

[Occam's Banana]

 

[WarriorLiberty]

Argentina's relations with China, Russia, Israel, Ukraine, etc., etc. are Argentina's business.

I don't give a damn what his foreign policy is, as long as it is not interventionist.

And let me get this straight: are you really denouncing Milei as a tool of the "globalists" while also bitching about the possibility that he will take or keep Argentina out of things like Mercosur and BRICS (and citing sources like Bloomberg when you do it)?

Good lord ...





Dafuq?

What the hell does Meloni have to do with any of this - let alone "human traffickers"?

You black-pillers will just latch on to any random, arbitrary thing, won't you?



You keep asking questions without answering any.

So instead of trying to answer that one (which I can't understand anyway), I'll just repeat my earlier question:

I don't care - because I am not a pinko commie.

(I bet Massa cared, though. I bet he cared a lot.)

You honestly assume that "globalists" are just some far left/Evil Communists...

 

[Occam's Banana]

You honestly assume that "globalists" are just some far left/Evil Communists...

Sure, okay. I mean, why not?

https://twitter.com/BasedMikeLee/status/1726423305895440507

 

[Occam's Banana]

https://twitter.com/OrderedAnarchy/status/1726390670620012903

 

[vita3]

Hey Libertarians,

https://twitter.com/DanielLMcAdams/status/1726419825184985259

 

[WarriorLiberty]

Argentina’s Would-Be Jewish Trump

When I asked Milei about his foreign policy, he was cutting.

“Our most natural allies are the United States and Israel. I want nothing to do with the communists of Cuba, China, North Korea. What does that mean? Trade with whoever you want, but I am not going to foment those relationships.”

He said in the past that he wants to trade with whoever you want just not with Cuba, China, Russia recently.


He wants to ditch the Argentinian dollar and replacing it with the USD dollar as being the main currency.
On the Middle East issues he would be interventionist for sure.


How does this make him a Libertarian?

 

[Occam's Banana]

Hey Libertarians,

https://twitter.com/DanielLMcAdams/status/1726419825184985259

Try to keep up.

Daniel McAdams seems to have a bug up his nose.

Argentina Presidential Candidate Javier Milei Is Not the Great Libertarian Hope
https://ronpaulinstitute.org/argent...vier-milei-is-not-the-great-libertarian-hope/
{Adam Dick | 19 November 2023}

The United States Libertarian Party posted today at Twitter a celebratory post regarding Javier Milei who is one of the two candidates for the presidency of Argentina in a runoff election taking place today. First, the tweet referred to Milei as the “most successful Libertarian political candidate of this generation” who “has a chance to shock the world today.” Then, it wished him “Good luck” and expressed the desire that he “Set an example for what could be in America.”

Hmm. Is this heavy praise merited?

Back in August, during a Twitter Spaces discussing regarding the Argentinian politician, Ron Paul Institute Executive Director Daniel McAdams examined some of Milei’s political views and presented warning signs.

Early in his critique, McAdams said the following regarding Milei’s foreign policy views:

I will say because I’ve seen several headlines saying ‘Is Milei the new Ron Paul? Is this the Ron Paul revolution?’ the answer is a categoric ‘no.’ The positions that he takes are categorically opposed to Ron Paul’s positions, particularly when you look at his foreign policy, which interestingly enough tracks identically with the foreign policy of the US foreign policy blob, the regime that runs Washington whether you elect Democrats or Republicans.

He’s absolutely on message when it comes to Ukraine and Russia. He’s absolutely on message when it comes to China. He calls China assassins. He says I would never promote relations with Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, Nicaragua, or China. And et cetera, et cetera. So, certainly when it comes to these areas he’s no Ron Paul. Ron Paul would never say this.
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You can listen to McAdams throw some cold water on the idea that Milei is the great libertarian hope starting at 36:39 on the time marker for the Twitter Spaces discussion here.

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My comment: "So what? I really don't give a shit."

But by all means, let me know if he ever starts expropriating Argentinians for the sake of Israelis, Ukrainians, etc., and I'll be happy to update that remark as seems appropriate.

https://twitter.com/DanielLMcAdams/status/1726419825184985259

My comment: "So what? I really don't give a shit."

https://twitter.com/CptAncapistan/status/1726408273492885864

[... It is] extremely foolishly counterproductive for those who oppose certain ideas to ostensibly endorse and promote those ideas so aggressively as part of some manipulatively illusory facade. That is why, as unfalsifiable as they are, many "controlled opposition" narratives are so lacking in credibility, some even to the point of blatant absurdity - such as the notion that Javier Milei is some kind (witting or unwitting) cat's-paw.

IOW: If Javier Milei is "controlled opposition", then we could do with a hell of a lot more of it. Three cheers for "controlled opposition"!

 

[Occam's Banana]

When I asked Milei about his foreign policy, he was cutting.

“Our most natural allies are the United States and Israel. I want nothing to do with the communists of Cuba, China, North Korea. What does that mean? Trade with whoever you want, but I am not going to foment those relationships.”

He said in the past that he wants to trade with whoever you want just not with Cuba, China, Russia recently.

Bullshit! That is not what he said.

He said you can trade with whomever you want (including Cuba, China, and North Korea) - but the government is not going to encourage or subsidize you. You literally just quoted him saying that very thing.

The only way that could be any more libertarian is if he applies it to every other country, too (not just the ones he named).

On the Middle East issues he would be interventionist for sure.

Name one interventionist policy he has said he intends to implement. [1]

Just one.

Go ahead, I'll wait ...



[1] And by "interventionist policy" I mean something specific he has said he intends to have the Argentinian government do (or threaten to do) to forcibly involve itself in the affairs of some other country or countries.

 

[TheTexan]

Argentina has a new president =)

 

[Occam's Banana]

When I asked Milei about his foreign policy, he was cutting.

“Our most natural allies are the United States and Israel. I want nothing to do with the communists of Cuba, China, North Korea. What does that mean? Trade with whoever you want, but I am not going to foment those relationships.”

He said in the past that he wants to trade with whoever you want just not with Cuba, China, Russia recently.

Bullshit! That is not what he said.

He said you can trade with whomever you want (including Cuba, China, and North Korea) - but the government is not going to encourage or subsidize you. You literally just quoted him saying that very thing.

The only way that could be any more libertarian is if he applies it to every other country, too (not just the ones he named).

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The Economist: With whom would you do business?

Javier Milei: Commercial relations are a problem of individuals in which the state should not interfere. You can trade with whomever you want.

The Economist: But you mentioned that you would break off relations with China and Brazil.

Javier Milei: That is political.

If you want to buy, sell and make deals with the Chinese or whoever you want, I have no problem. It is your problem.

But my political alignment is with other people. That is to say, I cannot have political alignments with those who do not respect freedom, with those who do not respect life, with those who do not respect democracy.

The Economist: You would not advance in free trade agreements through Mercosur because Brazil is involved?

Javier Milei: What does free trade look like? Free trade does not include the state. It is a private decision, so you can trade with whomever you want.

The Economist: So your government would not sign free trade agreements?

Javier Milei: Why do I have to be involved in transactions with private parties?

If you want to trade with Brazil, do it, if you want to trade with China, do it, it is your problem as a private person. Tariffs should not exist. Free trade does not include the government interfering in private decisions.

What I will have an influence on is geopolitics, on strategy in terms of geopolitics.

The Economist: But some government measures will have an impact on trade.

Javier Milei: Sure, but once you are competitive fiscally and on the labour side you can open up unilaterally.

Then you have the political part, and that is different. We are going to be aligned with those who defend freedom, peace and democracy.

The Economist: What do you think of Mercosur?

Javier Milei: That it is a commercial failure that has not gone beyond the category of a customs union that only generates trade diversions and damage for all those who live in the region. Here I am aligned with [Uruguayan President Luis] Lacalle Pou, in that I believe that Mercosur is a failure. It has not served the people, it has only served for business between politicians and businessmen.

The Economist: Lacalle Pou wants to leave in part to sign a free trade agreement with China...

Javier Milei: That is Lacalle Pou’s problem, but let’s say that Mercosur does not work, as it is.

The Economist: Would you take Argentina out of Mercosur?

Javier Milei: It seems to me that Mercosur does not work, and I am going for an agenda of unilateral opening. Once the reforms associated with this unilateral opening are finished, I do not believe in the government managing trade.

The Economist: And you don’t care that Mercosur may be about to sign a free trade agreement with the European Union. Would Argentina go its own way?

Javier Milei: Argentina would go its own way. Why does the state have to regulate who I can and cannot buy from?

 

[Occam's Banana]

Argentina has a new president =)

It certainly does ...

https://twitter.com/SallyMayweather/status/1726372448986366021

 

[swissaustrian]

Wow. Looking at my op to this thread from August 2023, I would have never believed that Milei would win.
Let's see how much he can actually change, since the entire political establishment and bureaucracy will sabotage him 24/7.

 

[Anti Federalist]

You honestly assume that "globalists" are just some far left/Evil Communists...

They run with the same dogs.

 

[vita3]

Psychopath

 

[dannno]

https://twitter.com/WojPawelczyk/status/1726396963669627193

 

[swissaustrian]

Full victory speech with English subtitles

 

[Firestarter]

My comment: "So what? I really don't give a shit."

Let's all cheer for the corrupt B-actor making bold statements, some curses. This will surely keep the masses interested in the political $hitshow!
No doubt in my mind that this zionist pig will support Israel's brutal assault in Gaza...

Another zionist right wing anti-establishment stooge with f*cked up hair, Javier Milei, is favourite to become Argentina’s next president.
Milei has links to the Dutch royals, the family of Queen Maxima in particular (who was born in Argentina).


In the early 1990s, Javier Milei was a senior economist at HSBC, where one of his colleagues was none other than Maxima Zorreguieta, who worked at another location, but at least once went to the Buenos Aires office where Milei worked.

Javier Finkman and Fabián Abadie invited Javier Milei to join HSBC.
Later Milei taught Finance at the University of Buenos Aires with both Finkman and Abadie.

In the early 1990s, Finkman and Abadie were appraising the value of companies for brokerage firm Capel, where Maxima now worked.
HSBC later acquired Capel: (in Spanish) https://www.clarin.com/economia/eco...conexion-maxima-zorreguieta_0_2k3wtHwtX0.html


In 1999, Milei was advising Antonio Bussi, who was running for Congress.
Bussi was later convicted of crimes against humanity during the brutal junta that ruled Argentina from 1976 to 1983, that included Maxima’s dad, Jorge Zorreguieta (who for some reason escaped the prison sentence he desevered).

Bussi’s son is running for a spot Argentina’s lower house, for Milei’s coalition, Liberty Advances.

Milei says to consult a rabbi, considers converting to Judaism, and promises that his first trip abroad as president would be to Israel: https://www.economist.com/1843/2023...ill-javier-milei-be-argentinas-next-president


Javier Milei once supported the nephew of former President Carlos Menem, when he was running for office: https://english.elpais.com/internat...inas-far-right-high-flier-loses-altitude.html


Carlos Menem was also involved in the money laundering and arms dealing by Jorge Zorreguieta, and associated, with the Bush family.

In June 2001, former Argentine President Carlos Menem was accused for his involvement in illegally selling 6,500 tons of arms to Croatia and Ecuador between 1991 and 1995, in violation of international arms embargoes.

Zorreguieta corruption scandal