Mike Huckabee speaks out against militarization of America's police forces

The `1033 program has been going on for over 20 years, but it wasn't until the DHS was formed, the push for the POLICE STATE was pumped with steroids. Huckabee is now playing the typical 'populist political correctness' it's the talk of the country, after numerous articles media over the past year, and especially the escalation of violence from the police state in killing everything American. I despise these sleazeball politicians and pundits like Mike Huckabee that play what's popular across lines and the risk is low for their own future.

Yet, in Mike Huckabee's very own state of Arkansas, the POLICE STATE has been militarized and Huckabee himself signed off numerous times on increasing the Warrior Cops od Arkansas. The Arkansas State Police provided annual reports on their weaponizing and assets used against the people and those very reports were directly addressed to Governor Mike Huckabee of the great state of Arkansas.

Flash-Bang grenade baby Bou Bou in Georgia... made even international news across the globe over 6 weeks ago, yet it wasn't until now, that Huckabee mentions it?

Gov. Huckabee and Arkansas were using the 1033 program when he wss in power and it went by another program name prior to that, in which Huckabee militarized Arkansas.

Arkansas State Troopers History

Arkansas State Police Annual Report to Gov Mike Huckabee

CATO 2006 -- Overkill: The Rise of Paramilitary Police Raids in America

PS: Anybody(Mike Huckabee) that calls Senator John McCain "MOST HONORABLE MAN" is a liar. McCain is the tormenter of invasion, destruction, and death, it proves Huckabee is just a swindler for the establishment.
 
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From March, huh?

Lol.

Yeah, them demmycrats are out in front of this issue...whoo hoo...

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I got to say, I agreed with the posters in this thread who say, Huckabee is blowing with the wind.Then I got to thinking about the author he had on and how I was put off by some of her comments. That got me thinking about the authors of the other books, specifically Balko and John Whitehead and I just remembered Whitehead was on Huckabee. So I looked it up, he was on Huckabee's show on July 27, 2013 https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/on_the_front_lines/john_whitehead_appears_on_fox_news_huckabee_fox_friends_virginia_pbs_and_bl
Here is a good interview of Whitehead by Tom Woods I found http://www.infowars.com/john-whitehead-a-government-of-wolves/ Huckabee is still a freaking statist neocon though.

Nice find, I'll cut him some more slack then.
 
Cool, while Huckabee blows with the wind, it's time to create a new storm. Abolition of State police.

Get radical or get lost.
 
People here will always criticize Huckabee, but he's been sounding pretty decent on civil liberties issues recently. He also opposes the NSA surveillance program and the TSA pat downs. Ironically, it's his economic policy where he's the least libertarian.

I criticize Huckabee because I know that if, in the next 24 hours, there is some "terror" attack, he will throw all that talk of "civil liberties" out the window and join the crowd talking about how "we have to give up some freedom to be safe".

I can count on the fingers of one hand, the political and talking head figures that will not.

Ron Paul (Definite)

Thomas Massie (Almost definite)

Justin Amash (Ditto)

Rand Paul (probably)

Mark Sanford (maybe, I don't know much about him.)

Maybe a couple more. Definitely not Huck.
 
Cool, while Huckabee blows with the wind, it's time to create a new storm. Abolition of State police.

Get radical or get lost.

Even I wouldn't touch that issue with a 10 foot pole if I was a politician. I cannot imagine any way of looking Boobus in the eye and telling him that. And I'm as "screw pragmatism and just speak principles" as anybody. I don't really see any reason why you can't pretty much act like a minarchist at the political level. Its not like those issues are actually going to come up anyway...

Mind you, I agree that state police should be abolished, but you can't really effectively explain that position when the average person is just thinking "these are the people who keep us safe from killers."

I've tried explaining this position to friends and family. In these situations I've actually been given the time to try to explain without continuous interruptions, and the media wasn't twisting everything I say, its still tough. Mind you, I'm not Murray Rothbard, but still.
 
Even I wouldn't touch that issue with a 10 foot pole if I was a politician. I cannot imagine any way of looking Boobus in the eye and telling him that. And I'm as "screw pragmatism and just speak principles" as anybody. I don't really see any reason why you can't pretty much act like a minarchist at the political level. Its not like those issues are actually going to come up anyway...

Mind you, I agree that state police should be abolished, but you can't really effectively explain that position when the average person is just thinking "these are the people who keep us safe from killers."

I've tried explaining this position to friends and family. In these situations I've actually been given the time to try to explain without continuous interruptions, and the media wasn't twisting everything I say, its still tough. Mind you, I'm not Murray Rothbard, but still.

It's up to us to do it, and have others follow. What's happening now in the broader liberty movement is large swaths of members following the leader and falling in line behind Rand or [insert politician here]. This narrows the scope of acceptable political discussion, and does nothing to help politicians who prefer to work within the margins - it only causes those politicians to get worse and advocate for smaller and less fruitful solutions.

We need to give those goalposts a healthy kick. And then a push. And a shove.
 
It's up to us to do it, and have others follow. What's happening now in the broader liberty movement is large swaths of members following the leader and falling in line behind Rand or [insert politician here]. This narrows the scope of acceptable political discussion, and does nothing to help politicians who prefer to work within the margins - it only causes those politicians to get worse and advocate for smaller and less fruitful solutions.

We need to give those goalposts a healthy kick. And then a push. And a shove.

I'm honestly not sure where to start with that kind of a conversation. It seems to me that there are a bunch of propositions that one has to accept before this position will make sense.

For instance, say I make this statement to you: "Cops who enforce drug laws are acting in an unjust and immoral manner."

I'd agree with this statement. You'd agree with this statement. But is there a point in making the statement to someone who supports drug prohibition? Isn't it pretty much required to convince him that drug prohibition is bad before we have the conversation about how police who enforce those laws are bad?

Mind you, I've gone for the whole thing all at once before to but I'm questioning the effectiveness of it.

And, I'm not sure how a politician running on an ancap platform would work, or that it would be appreciably different from a minarchist platform in practice.
 
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