Mike Brown had no felony juvenile record, and was not facing any charges when he was killed

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Juvenile court: Michael Brown had no most serious felony convictions or pending cases

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_43c9bbbb-356f-5ea6-b9e2-7dde7e3e5c83.html

CLAYTON • As a child, Michael Brown was never found delinquent of the juvenile equivalents of Missouri’s most serious felony charges, and was not facing any at the time he died, a court official said Wednesday.

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch filed a petition Aug. 22 asking a judge in the St. Louis County Family Court to open any juvenile records on Brown, the unarmed 18-year-old shot to death last month by a Ferguson police officer. A conservative blogger from California had separately requested the records be opened.

Police had said earlier that the 18-year-old Brown had no adult criminal record.

The petitions went to a hearing Tuesday with St. Louis County Family Court Ellen Levy Siwak, who took the case under advisement.

But disclosures during and after the hearing on Tuesday put to rest claims by blogger Charles C. Johnson and others that Brown was facing a murder charge at the time he was shot to death.

Cynthia Harcourt, a lawyer for St. Louis County Juvenile Officer Kip Seely noted that some juvenile records and proceedings are open to the public: those that concern crimes that would be Class A or B felonies if a juvenile had been charged as an adult. But there were none for Brown.

After the hearing, the Post-Dispatch sought out Harcourt to clarify her statement. She told the Post-Dispatch that Brown was not facing any Class A or B charges when he died, either.

Class A felonies include second-degree murder and first-degree robbery; the penalties in adult court range from 10 years in prison to death. Class B felonies include voluntary manslaughter, second-degree robbery and first-degree burglary, with a maximum penalty of five to 15 years.

It is not known whether Brown had ever been accused of lesser offenses. Class C felonies, for example, which include involuntary manslaughter and second-degree assault, would become open only if there were two previous adjudications for class A, B or C felonies. That was not the case with Brown.

Joseph E. Martineau of Lewis Rice & Fingersh, attorney for the Post-Dispatch, acknowledged to Siwak that some juvenile court records are confidential under Missouri law.

But he argued that the primary reason to keep them confidential — to protect a child from entering adulthood with the stigma of a criminal record — expired with Brown's death. He said Siwak had the discretion to open files, and said there was heavy public interest in the details of Brown's life.

Martineau pointed to a general lack of transparency surrounding the police response to, and investigation of, the shooting. He said opening the juvenile files would “dispel speculation that occurs when proceedings are not open.”

Harcourt derided the claim as pure media curiosity that should not lead the judge to open any confidential records. She said if there were records of felonies, they would have been made public.

She acknowledged that Siwak could open files further but implored her not to, saying the integrity of the family court was on the line. And she said the court of public opinion weighing facts in the Brown case did not require the release of confidential records.

The parents of Michael Brown were represented at the hearing by their attorney, Anthony D. Gray. Although he did not speak in the hearing, outside the courtroom he blasted the Post-Dispatch and Johnson for requesting the juvenile files.

There was one reason, and one only, the organizations wanted to view the files, he said: “The character assassination of Mike Brown.”

St. Louis Post-Dispatch editor Gilbert Bailon disputed the idea that seeking any juvenile records was designed to impugn Michael Brown.

"We are a news organization that pursues facts, which are the basis of coverage. Innuendo and speculation through various forms of media have raised questions about whether Michael Brown had a criminal record. We are seeking to find those facts without prejudgment or bias."

"It is ironic that today's new information appears favorable to Michael Brown by stating he had no record of adult or serious juvenile crimes, yet some have characterized the pursuit of that information as damaging to Michael Brown,'' Bailon said.
 
Seems the cop has a more 'checkered' past than Brown.....but we have to be careful with character assasination with Wilson.
 
Worst part is the lead up to getting access to the records, there were rumors and allegations being passed around social media, and on this very forum that the records were going to show that Brown had been party to a murder when he was 16 or some such nonsense which we know now was completely baseless. Most likely this was done intentionally to spread around false information to taint and poison public opinion. /smh

The other shoe is going to drop when Brown's juvenile record is revealed.

Brown's juvenile record may lead to association with the Crips.

http://youngcons.com/explosive-new-...ichael-brown-was-a-suspect-for-second-degree/

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http://www.aol.com/article/2014/08/...ael-browns-juvenile-criminal-record/20953546/
 
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AuH2O has assured me that this is not possible. He was a black gang member. It's simply not possible.
 
AuH2O has assured me that this is not possible. He was a black gang member. It's simply not possible.

This still has not been clarified. Nor has his entire juvenile record been disclosed. Just A and B felonies have been ruled out if you read the article. We have people prematurely doing a touchdown dance at the 20 yard line. Some posters should send money to Brown's family while they're at it. Maybe even erect a statue in his honor in the middle of the Ferguson town square.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...lass-a-or-class-b-felonies-in-juvenile-court/

Class A felonies include second-degree murder and first-degree robbery; the penalties in adult court range from 10 years in prison to death. Class B felonies include voluntary manslaughter, second-degree robbery and first-degree burglary, with a maximum penalty of five to 15 years.

It is not known whether Brown had ever been accused of lesser offenses; any record of those would be part of a confidential family court file.
 
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This still has not been clarified. Nor has his entire juvenile record been disclosed. Just A and B felonies have been ruled out. We have people prematurely doing a touchdown dance at the 20 yard line.

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Class A felonies include second-degree murder and first-degree robbery

But disclosures during and after the hearing on Tuesday put to rest claims by blogger Charles C. Johnson and others that Brown was facing a murder charge at the time he was shot to death.

Mike Brown may not have been a "gentle giant", and I, for one, never claimed he was.

Regardless, unarmed men are not supposed to be summarily executed in the street for "contempt of cop".

Go read the Balko article I just posted for an idea of the daily police aggression and shakedowns people in these small towns around St. Louis have to live under.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-plus-quot-CopLands-quot-surrounding-St-Louis
 
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How about the cops record? Something about being in a cop shop that was shut down for racism. Was that confirmed? Sending money? Did you send any? To anyone? WTF are you on about?
 
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Mike Brown may not have been a "gentle giant", and I, for one, never claimed he was.

Regardless, unarmed men are not supposed to be summarily executed in the street for "contempt of cop".

Go read the Balko article I just posted for an idea of the daily police aggression and shakedowns people in these small towns around St. Louis have to live under.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-plus-quot-CopLands-quot-surrounding-St-Louis

Oh shit. You mean AuH20's citizen journalist wasn't trustworthy? Damn. He seemed to put a lot of stake in this fella.
 
How about the cops record? Something about being in a cop shop that was shut down for racism. Was that confirmed? Sending money? Did you send any? To anyone? WTF are you on about?

The cop's record is fair game. Why wouldn't it be?
 
Breaking: DOJ launches investigation into [ENTIRE] Ferguson PD
http://www.myfoxal.com/story/26442790/doj-launches-investigation-into-ferguson-pd

FERGUSON, MO (CNN/RNN) - The Justice Department plans to launch a civil investigation into the Ferguson police department, according to a Missouri state and federal official.

Michael Brown, 18, was killed in August at the hands of Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson on Aug. 9.

The official source says the focus of this investigation will be the police department's practices and training.

The investigation will be conducted by the DOJ's Civil Rights division and will follow the same investigative process as previously filed excessive force claims of police.

The announcement of the new investigation will be made as early as Thursday morning, according to the Washington Post.

The DOJ is already investigating Brown's shooting death with the help of the FBI's. The DOJ have previously investigated 20 other law enforcement agencies in the last five years, and have had the legal authority to do so since 1994.

The Ferguson police department has been involved in a handful of lawsuits filed by people who claim excessive force was used.

According to NBC News, one man was charged by for damaging government property when four Ferguson police officers were accused of beating him and getting his blood on their clothing.


The unrest the followed Brown's shooting death was fueled in large part to Ferguson, MO residents voicing their disdain for police in the area.
 
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Oh shit. You mean AuH20's citizen journalist wasn't trustworthy? Damn. He seemed to put a lot of stake in this fella.

Somebody wasn't.

Whatever Mike Brown was, he was not a convicted murderer, nor was he facing any charges at all, at the time of his death.

All that bullshit with regard to his criminal record and past, was just that, bullshit and FUD.

When you read through that article I posted, the only question that remains is "why did it take so long to riot"?

And all the "outside agitators" were coming from all the cop-land towns all around Ferguson, where the same thing was going on: cop shakedowns, harassment and a "poverty to prison" pipeline.
 
Somebody wasn't.

Whatever Mike Brown was, he was not a convicted murderer, nor was he facing any charges at all, at the time of his death.

All that bullshit with regard to his criminal record and past, was just that, bullshit and FUD.

When you read through that article I posted, the only question that remains is "why did it take so long to riot"?

And all the "outside agitators" were coming from all the cop-land towns all around Ferguson, where the same thing was going on: cop shakedowns, harassment and a "poverty to prison" pipeline.

Where did Johnson say he was a murderer? He simply stated that he had a tip about a possible connection to a gangland murderer. 2nd degree murder can be charged for mere association. Secondly, this report has (a) not divulged his entire JV record or (b) revealed to us about prior charges that never led to conviction. Theoretically, his entire record could be clean, but based on the tape, I seriously doubt it. You just don't decide to commit strong arm robbery out of the blue. That surveillance tape is the biggest hindrance to the Michael Brown case since it establishes a precedent of utilizing force in an illegal fashion, which would corroborate with the eyewitness reports of a possible physical struggle with the police officer.
 
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Where did Johnson say he was a murderer? He simply stated that he had a tip about a possible connection to a gangland murderer. 2nd degree murder can be charged for mere association. Secondly, this report has (a) not divulged his entire JV record or (b) revealed to us about prior charges that never led to conviction. Theoretically, his entire record could be clean, but based on the tape, I seriously doubt it. You just don't decide to commit strong arm robbery out of the blue. That surveillance tape is the biggest hindrance to the Michael Brown case since it establishes a precedent of utilizing force in an illegal fashion, which would corroborate with the eyewitness reports of a possible physical struggle with the police officer.

Balls in your court. Can you link the Johnson documents?
 
Where did Johnson say he was a murderer? He simply stated that he had a tip about a possible connection to a gangland murderer. 2nd degree murder can be charged for mere association. Secondly, this report has (a) not divulged his entire JV record or (b) revealed to us about prior charges that never led to conviction. Theoretically, his entire record could be clean, but based on the tape, I seriously doubt it. You just don't decide to commit strong arm robbery out of the blue. That surveillance tape is the biggest hindrance to the Michael Brown case since it establishes a precedent of utilizing force in an illegal fashion, which would corroborate with the eyewitness reports of a possible physical struggle with the police officer.

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Ummm, confirmed means confirmed.

(b) revealed to us about prior charges that never led to conviction

So he's guilty even if he's innocent then?

C'mon, you really reaching now...

"Mike Brown beat the cop and broke his skull!"

Not true.

"Mike Brown had juvenile rap sheet a mile long!"

Not true.

"Mike Brown was awaiting prosecution for other charges!"

Not true.

All we know is an unarmed man was shot and killed by a Ferguson cop, for, what seems to be, no good reason.
 
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ah, c'mon. You lived in a city with ghettos. They are animals there. Every single one of them.

I wouldn't go there. But we have some people that believe that police in certain crime ridden areas just go out and club someone over a head like a baby seal for absolutely no reason when over 90% of the police-citizen encounters in this country do not result in a violent confrontation.
 
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