Middle-class fleeing California invasion.

[Anti Federalist]

funny how the mexicans here do move on to making more money and integrated into our society. Spains flag once flown over this state, we have spanish speaking natives. this is a home we share with many. we aren't xenophobic here.
do you not see what you are saying?

And by almost every metric you care to use, Louisiana ranks near dead last in the nation in all of them.

Crime (5th highest), overall health(47th), life expectancy (49th), education (one of the lowest rates of graduation, skills and advancement to higher education), you name it, the list goes on and on.

Not to mention the ongoing violent racist history, on both sides and a culture of political corruption that is long and sordid.

I hate to bash your home state brother, but Louisiana is not a good model to use, or an example to hold up for the rest of us to follow.

 

[Dunedain]

And by almost every metric you care to use, Louisiana ranks near dead last in the nation in all of them.

Crime (5th highest), overall health(47th), life expectancy (49th), education (one of the lowest rates of graduation, skills and advancement to higher education), you name it, the list goes on and on.

Not to mention the ongoing violent racist history, on both sides and a culture of political corruption that is long and sordid.

I hate to bash your home state brother, but Louisiana is not a good model to use, or an example to hold up for the rest of us to follow.

Some positives have come out of Lousiana. The Looter Guy for example.

 

[romacox]

Sorry, I could not get back to finish my post yesterday.

• The meaning of the word "Naturalization in 1828 as per Websters dictionary.
  
• Displaying 1 result(s) from the 1828 edition:
  
• NATURALIZATION, n. [See Naturalize] The act of investing an alien with the rights and privileges of a native subject or citizen. Naturalization in Great Britain is only by act of parliament. In the United States, it is by act of Congress, vesting certain tribunals with the power.
• http://machaut.uchicago.edu/websters

• Constitution Article I Section 8 # 4: To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States.

• It is interesting to note that many of our our Founding Fathers themselves were dependent on slaves and other cheap labor but later became involved in the underground railroad.

"Like most people of his period, Franklin initially believed that African slaves and their offspring were inferior to white Europeans and that they couldn't be educated. He began to question his beliefs when he visited a school where young African children were being taught. In 1763, he wrote a letter to an English friend where he stated, "I was on the whole much pleased, and from what I then saw, have conceived a higher opinion of the natural capacities of the black race, than I had ever before entertained. Their apprehension seems as quick, their memory as strong, and their docility in every respect equal to that of white children."

"Some scholars believe that Franklin's conversion to abolitionist beliefs was hastened by his animosity towards the British. Franklin often expressed his belief that the British meant to enslave the colonists. This may have led him to examine the enslavement of Africans who were brought from their native countries to be used as property and cattle." http://www.pbs.org/benfranklin/l3_citizen_abolitionist.html

The IMF intends to enslave us now by using all sorts of methods to lower wages including an influx of cheap labor, and the removing available jobs. Such an influx has not only lowered wages, but has also given votes to illegals who vote in favor of the needs of their own Country rather than the U.S., in which they only are visiting until they can return home.

I, for one (like Franklin) intend to resist, and encourage others to do so as well

 

[scottish devil]

I'll be just fine with nature Dunedain. I work my ass off and seek to make a living the best way I know how. I don't blame others for my problems and take responsibility for my successes and failures.

You're in a small small minority, the vast majority of all people disagree with you. Remember that.

That sounds like al gore science. If there is a consensus it must prove fact. What if the majority are dummies and the dummies are wrong? How does that affect your consensus?

 

[romacox]

Ron Paul is for border security: http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=477

Ron Paul says:
First, physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must have control over who enters our country before we even begin to consider complicated immigration reform proposals.

Second, enforce visa rules on those already in the country. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport individuals who overstay their visas or otherwise violate U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that some of the 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.

Third, reject amnesty. If we reward lawbreakers who enter this country illegally with citizenship, then any new laws Congress might pass likewise can be ignored. Reform must begin with a new mentality that immigration laws will be enforced.

Fourth, end welfare-state incentives for illegals. Americans are quick to welcome immigrants who simply wish to work hard and make a better life for themselves. But taxpayers cannot continue to pay when illegal immigrants use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.

Fifth, end birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the perverse incentive to sneak into this country remains strong. Citizenship involves more than the mere location of one’s birth.

Finally, completely overhaul the legal immigration process. The current system is incoherent and unfair. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods.

Note: Ron Paul supports tariffs (not the Libertarian Part).
Important Question: Libertarian Party views on the issues in link below (some are very different from Ron Paul's. Are current Libertarian views Milton Friedman's who also influenced IMF policies?) :

http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Lib...d_Security.htm

 

[Dunedain]

Ron Paul is for border security: http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=477

Ron Paul says:
First, physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must have control over who enters our country before we even begin to consider complicated immigration reform proposals.

Second, enforce visa rules on those already in the country. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport individuals who overstay their visas or otherwise violate U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that some of the 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.

Third, reject amnesty. If we reward lawbreakers who enter this country illegally with citizenship, then any new laws Congress might pass likewise can be ignored. Reform must begin with a new mentality that immigration laws will be enforced.

Fourth, end welfare-state incentives for illegals. Americans are quick to welcome immigrants who simply wish to work hard and make a better life for themselves. But taxpayers cannot continue to pay when illegal immigrants use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.

Fifth, end birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the perverse incentive to sneak into this country remains strong. Citizenship involves more than the mere location of one’s birth.

Finally, completely overhaul the legal immigration process. The current system is incoherent and unfair. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods.

Note: Ron Paul supports tariffs (not the Libertarian Part).
Important Question: Libertarian Party views on the issues in link below (some are very different from Ron Paul's. Are current Libertarian views Milton Friedman's who also influenced IMF policies?) :

http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Lib...d_Security.htm

A minority of people on the RonPaul forums don't care what Ron Paul wants. I'm not sure why they are here.

 

[specialK]

Yeah, I'm ticked off to high heaven about how our government encourages the illegal alien invasion of our country by subsidizing them. It makes me madder than hell, actually.

They sure don't encourage it on the northern border. I live in a border town in Canada and have for about 30 years. It's getting tougher and tougher to cross just to go shopping all the time. They want more and more documentation. It's really very strange. It's not the same country I knew and enjoyed visiting years ago.

 

[Dunedain]

They sure don't encourage it on the northern border. I live in a border town in Canada and have for about 30 years. It's getting tougher and tougher to cross just to go shopping all the time. They want more and more documentation. It's really very strange. It's not the same country I knew and enjoyed visiting years ago.

The vast majoirty of Canadians are white. God knows that the NWO doesn't need more of them crossing the border to support the liberty movement. But Mexicans from the souh? Load em' up!

 

[osan]

I am asking seriously, not rhetorically. Does writing/faxing/phoning/emailing Congress constitute taking action? I spent lotsa money and more time carefully crafting thoughtful albeit angry letters, with plethoras of cc's, only to receive patronizing THANK YOU FOR CONTACTING ME! and I RECOGNIZE YOUR CONCERNS bullshit non-answers. I have made phone calls only to talk with apologists whose loyalty to crappy Civil Servants puts food on their tables.

WHile everything you say is true, writing to the congresscretin is still useful. Granted they respond with pro-forma, patronizing bullshit as you note, but they also pay attention when they get great heaps of angry communications about the same issue. They don't act, but they are aware.

I sense that only Civil Disobedience has an effect.

Civil disobedience is the real message. Non-vioelnt is best. Let "them" fire the first shot. Let us not leave a single one alive once they have fired it.

Ghandi's passive aggressive model will probably work well here unless those in power decide they are willing to kill every one of us, which I will not rule out categorically. Those at the top of world governance are playing very much for keeps. The reason they don't mess with us more forcefully and forthrightly is because we are armed to the teeth.

I am thinking that peaceful acts of mass disobedience should be engaged in while heavily armed. When they take the first step into violence, we wipe them from the roles of the living and the pages of history.

Aside from being surveilled, curtailed and archived, I sense that ALL COMMUNICATION is viewed as Weakness -- literally, as signal that complacent and cowardly Americans are still sitting in their chairs, doing as they're told.

Perhaps, and they may even be right, but I would call that a very risky presumption - one I would never make. Just consider the implications for them if they are wrong.

 

[Meatwasp]

Carumba,
I used to get so mad at the illegals but now I think there are too many to haul back to Mexico. Why not sit back and eat tortillas and beans with them and sing old sad Mexican songs. Hee

 

[The Patriot]

Seems like the logical choice for a middle class person. Luckily, my family is wealthy and can "afford" the tax burden; inflation and unemployment hasn't hit us yet. California has high taxes, large deficits for unnecessary social services and illegal immigrants who drain the services.

 

[torchbearer]

And by almost every metric you care to use, Louisiana ranks near dead last in the nation in all of them.

Crime (5th highest), overall health(47th), life expectancy (49th), education (one of the lowest rates of graduation, skills and advancement to higher education), you name it, the list goes on and on.

Not to mention the ongoing violent racist history, on both sides and a culture of political corruption that is long and sordid.

I hate to bash your home state brother, but Louisiana is not a good model to use, or an example to hold up for the rest of us to follow.

our education is a measure of public schools. half our schools are private or homeschool. all kids with promise go to private school.
life expectancy/health is because of our diet, and we aren't changing it because we like fried pork skin and boiled crawfish with tons of crab boil and salt.
Crime is because of the drug war, we are a center for pot and meth distribution.
the only racist i've seen here are the few rednecks from david duke country who can't stand black people or brown people- kinda like the xenophobes in this thread.
racist seem to be all over.
so- as far as your stats are concerned, shove them. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else and none of the above is caused by brown people from mexico being here.

this is one of the best states to live. cost of living is cheap and factories are now consolidating their units here because of it.
we are growing while others are shrinking. we need all the cheap labor we can get.

 

[fedup100]

people had similar discussions in the south when black people started moving to homes on the "white side" of the track.

for those who don't know- a lot of southern cities were segregated by a railroad track. whites lived on one side- blacks lived on the other.

Yes and I lived in one of those towns. Crime was ZIP, no grafity or gangs. They had their own communities schools etc.!

the white racist would talk about the "welfare niggers" (not my thoughts) moving into their part of town and running off all the productive white people.

And they have. My neighbor is a very nice black man and his wife from Panama, they WILL NOT LIVE in a black community. As he has said, "I may be black, but I'm not stupid". They must know something you don't.

this whole idea that every mexican is a welfare queen is no different than thinking all black people are on welfare.

But 85% on welfare makes them NOT a welfare Queen? Please look up the actual figures and be prepared to eat crow.

PC correctness, ignorance and fear have been the defeat of the white man who is now doomed not just here but world wide.

I cannot stand to turn on the tube, the black man is the man, he is in charge, he is the smartest, he is the President. Every (^% commercial are the illusive beautiful perfectly coiffed blacks and there upper middle class homes!! When was this country given over to the blacks??

The masters of the universe are pushing you and your family hard to marry a black or any other but white. Go to their strong hold and you will see no such diversity. Wake up fools.

As far as the PC correct attacks, stick it your ear, I have come full circle and now see diversity and the brainwashing that goes with it was nothing more than a tool by the elite to pit race against race and as far as I am concerned this day, I am pitted.

 

[torchbearer]

But 85% on welfare makes them NOT a welfare Queen? Please look up the actual figures and be prepared to eat crow.

PC correctness, ignorance and fear have been the defeat of the white man who is now doomed not just here but world wide.

I cannot stand to turn on the tube, the black man is the man, he is in charge, he is the smartest, he is the President. Every (^% commercial are the illusive beautiful perfectly coiffed blacks and there upper middle class homes!! When was this country given over to the blacks??

The masters of the universe are pushing you and your family hard to marry a black or any other but white. Go to their strong hold and you will see no such diversity. Wake up fools.

As far as the PC correct attacks, stick it your ear, I have come full circle and now see diversity and the brainwashing that goes with it was nothing more than a tool by the elite to pit race against race and as far as I am concerned this day, I am pitted.

yeah ok, david duke.

 

[MelissaWV]

But 85% on welfare makes them NOT a welfare Queen? Please look up the actual figures and be prepared to eat crow.

PC correctness, ignorance and fear have been the defeat of the white man who is now doomed not just here but world wide.

I cannot stand to turn on the tube, the black man is the man, he is in charge, he is the smartest, he is the President. Every (^% commercial are the illusive beautiful perfectly coiffed blacks and there upper middle class homes!! When was this country given over to the blacks??

The masters of the universe are pushing you and your family hard to marry a black or any other but white. Go to their strong hold and you will see no such diversity. Wake up fools.

As far as the PC correct attacks, stick it your ear, I have come full circle and now see diversity and the brainwashing that goes with it was nothing more than a tool by the elite to pit race against race and as far as I am concerned this day, I am pitted.

This is a joke, right?

 

[constituent]

But 85% on welfare makes them NOT a welfare Queen? Please look up the actual figures and be prepared to eat crow.

PC correctness, ignorance and fear have been the defeat of the white man who is now doomed not just here but world wide.

I cannot stand to turn on the tube, the black man is the man, he is in charge, he is the smartest, he is the President. Every (^% commercial are the illusive beautiful perfectly coiffed blacks and there upper middle class homes!! When was this country given over to the blacks??

The masters of the universe are pushing you and your family hard to marry a black or any other but white. Go to their strong hold and you will see no such diversity. Wake up fools.

As far as the PC correct attacks, stick it your ear, I have come full circle and now see diversity and the brainwashing that goes with it was nothing more than a tool by the elite to pit race against race and as far as I am concerned this day, I am pitted.

where to start?

 

[MelissaWV]

where to start?

I was going to start with how poorly the entire thing is written and organized, but that'd be a bit cliche for me

 

[Pennsylvania]

This is a joke, right?

'fraid not:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1355590&postcount=20

 

[fedup100]

I didn't stutter!

 

[MelissaWV]

I didn't stutter!

No, but you misspelled, sentence-fragmented, and used some of the faultiest logic this side of the Junior Klansmen rejects meeting.