Memorial Day Thread. (please bump)

In the pioneer cemetary here, there is a "civil war" edifice that features a large equestrian statue surrounded by rings of graves of oregonians who died in that conflict, both union and confederate. I discovered it upon wanderings after the gravesite funeral for one of my grandmothers there, long ago. Thinking about them is what memorial day is all about to me. In my mind, there's no better way to appreciate war than to visit a cemetary.
 
I don't support war, I don't support killing, I don't support the warrior, I do not support the troops.

We've all heard it before. Most of us wouldn't disagree with you, including Ron Paul who specifically requested that Aimee Allen sing "Universal Soldier" at the Rally For The Republic. But with all due respect, that's not what this thread is about, so...
Start your own damn thread!

Happy Memorial Day!

Thank you to all Veterans who intended to give up at least a part of their life for the service of this great country, but especially thanks to all who took the oath to uphold the Constitution, took it seriously, took the time to understand it, and continue to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
 
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put blame where blame is due

I don't support war, I don't support killing, I don't support the warrior, I do not support the troops.


hey, dude, your beef is with the civilians that say when/where the military goes to war, not the rank-and-file.

lynn
 
This thread is not about "glorifying" War.
It is not a celebration.

It is a remembrance. It is about those that chose to serve, and those that died in service.
Regardless of whether they fully understood, and regardless of the wars they were ordered to fight.

Remember those that have been lost.
And for those that live,, Remember your oath.
 
I do not support these current wars but I do support our troops.

Thank you to our troops.
 
This thread is not about "glorifying" War.
It is not a celebration.

It is a remembrance. It is about those that chose to serve, and those that died in service.
Regardless of whether they fully understood, and regardless of the wars they were ordered to fight.

Remember those that have been lost.
And for those that live,, Remember your oath.

I cold not have said it better myself, Peter. Thank you for clarifying for those that do not understand.

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how many people still support the war? would ron's message have greater reception today then in 2008?

Not according to recent polling.

And events surrounding the GoM spill and reaction to that will assure that we continue invading oil bearing nations for the foreseeable future.
 
Thanks for posting this thread. You have nothing but my respect and admiration.

"Harsh" posters: To understand the pro-liberty people who are OK with Memorial Day, think of it as memorializing those who really did fight for liberty in the American Revolutionary War. I'm not saying that was a perfect war either, but it *was* justified, and fought on behalf of true libertarian/classical liberal principles.

Yes :rolleyes: They fought for liberty and justice meanwhile a number of them OWNED slaves back home. It's easy to look at people in the past as being ideal - they weren't. Americans are more free now than we were in 1776 - at least my ancestors.
 
BlackTerrel,

Modern popular philosophy has elevated hypocrisy to be the last great cardinal sin -- the only sin, in fact. Hypocrisy is the only act that it is OK to completely and without equivocation condemn, for it is this condemnation of hypocrisy, which buttresses the argument for throwing out absolute morality and principles altogether. Hypocrisy, conveniently enough, can be found everywhere. Thus it can always and everywhere be brought out in order to mock, sneer at, and dismiss anyone who stood for something in life, anyone who had well-defined principles.

The American colonists were hypocrites. That is true. They were some of the best hypocrites who ever lived. I, for one, am proud to be a hypocrite along with them. I gladly continue their hypocritical struggle for liberty, justice, truth, and other various naive and hypocritical moral standards.
 
This thread is not about "glorifying" War.
It is not a celebration.

It is a remembrance. It is about those that chose to serve, and those that died in service.
Regardless of whether they fully understood, and regardless of the wars they were ordered to fight.

Remember those that have been lost.
And for those that live,, Remember your oath.

Does this page mean I can criticize Rand for being a jackass flip-flopping on the unconstitutional application of the commerce clause and it won't get moved to hot topics?

Does it mean I can criticize people like myself who serve the aristocracy perpetuating these wars that will bring this country to ruin?

Should I be proud of this page?
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