Massie: This Summer Trump’s ‘Indictments Are Going to Ripen into Convictions’

[nobody's_hero]

I'm gonna repeat myself again:

If your only hope at winning the nomination is that your opposition gets convicted in kangaroo courts, it's a really bad image to have, going into the general election.

Uh no, not even close. Thomas isn't wrong but he probably shouldnt be be saying these things outloud as it can be seen as giving aide and comfort to the enemy.

No one will ever accuse libertarians of being politically savvy.

There's really nothing to be gained from Massie making this claim. He'll get a golf-clap from the left, at most.

(but I do think the suspicion directed at anyone who isn't 100% on board with Trump gets a bit ludicrous. Massie, Rand, Amash are net-benefits regardless of their inability to effectively choose which hills are worth dying on. Actually Rand is basically just keeping his mouth shut, which is probably the wisest course of action regarding these silly indictments)

 

[vita3]

“What's Trump's position on Israel's war crimes?”

Winner, winner chicken dinner!

 

[69360]

Yet they will never press charges agaisnt Biden's Pedo Son.

Despite the evidence of Hunter Biden sexually abusing underage.

Hunter Biden has several indictments and is going to trial, I believe gun charges and tax evasion.

Deflecting doesn't make Trump's legal issues go away.

 

[TheCount]

I objected to Trump's tactic loudly at the time

No, you were a weasel then and you're a weasel now.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Hunter Biden has several indictments and is going to trial, I believe gun charges and tax evasion.

Gun charges ... tax evasions ... phony "insurrections" ...

Why don't they ever try to get any of these bastards (the Bidens, Trump, et al.) for any of the things they should actually be gotten for? /rhetorical

 

[Brian4Liberty]

...
The cases against Trump are all preposterous lies, especially the Stormy Daniel garbage.
...

Massie said "The lawsuit itself is ridiculous".

And no one is disputing that Trump paid Daniels hush money.

Your undying devotion to Trump is preposterous.

 

[Invisible Man]

I objected to Trump's tactic loudly at the time, I still don't say it was the right way to handle it.
But it had no effect.

You guys are supporting Massie for doing much worse with even less excuse.

I'm not sure which of Trump's many horrible things you're talking about. There were a bunch, but I don't recall you ever loudly objecting to any of them.

And I can't imagine what Massie has done that is much worse than whatever it is.

The worst thing that Massie has ever done in office is better than the best thing that Trump has ever done in his life.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

That's what the impeachments and prosecutions are.


BS.
A fig leaf he made to cover his support of the Deep State.
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Massie did not vote for impeachment. You may want to fix that quote.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

...You know, this summer we’re going to be litigating these case in the court these indictments are going to ripen into convictions...

Many of the charges probably will, and that is not a statement or judgement on the validity of the charges. And the left establishment courts will uphold them all the way to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court may refuse to hear the cases.

 

[vita3]

Trump was in court this morning..


Carroll is suing Trump for defamation over remarks he made in 2019, while he was president, denying her allegation that he raped her in the dressing room of a department store in the mid-1990s.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

https://twitter.com/MassieforKY/status/1749430833063051376

 

[Matt Collins]

No one will ever accuse libertarians of being politically savvy.

Thomas has been up until recently. I get his animosity at Trump, it's well deserved, but going after Trump is not a smart move. Thomas has good reason for his TDS but it's starting to affect his judgement.

Massie, Rand, Amash are net-benefits regardless of their inability to effectively choose which hills are worth dying on. Actually Rand is basically just keeping his mouth shut, which is probably the wisest course of action regarding these silly indictments)

Exactly. The best thing is to just keep quiet, or call out the policy (as opposed to Trump himself). And yeah having Amash back in Congress would be a good thing despite the fact he has gotten off track quite a bit.

 

[Occam's Banana]

I'm not sure which of Trump's many horrible things you're talking about. There were a bunch, but I don't recall you ever loudly objecting to any of them.

Whatever any of those objectionable things might be, it was either:
(1) something he shouldn't have done (and didn't want to do) but had to do (because [reasons]), or
(2) something he should have done (and wanted to do) but couldn't do (because [reasons]), or
(3) empty talk that had no effect, so it doesn't really matter, or
(4) Quantum Dark Energy Wormhole Chess.

However, because there is no possibility of legitimately significant disagreement with or criticism of Trump, none of those justifications may be applied to anyone who significantly disagrees with or criticizes Trump. Anyone who does (Massie or Amash, for example) is therefore necessarily just a bad-faith stooge of the deep state.

 

[acptulsa]

Massie did not vote for impeachment. You may want to fix that quote.

Yeah, I fixed mine. I was thinking Amash...

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Thomas has been up until recently. I get his animosity at Trump, it's well deserved, but going after Trump is not a smart move. Thomas has good reason for his TDS but it's starting to affect his judgement.


Exactly. The best thing is to just keep quiet, or call out the policy (as opposed to Trump himself). And yeah having Amash back in Congress would be a good thing despite the fact he has gotten off track quite a bit.

I have no idea how the communication was working in the DeSantis camp, but to let Massie go on a Sunday morning show to campaign for DeSantis (and criticize his opponents), on the same day that the candidate drops out of the race, is in bad form. I don't know if Massie was blindsided by DeSantis on that or not, but it didn't work out well for Massie.

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

I have no idea how the communication was working in the DeSantis camp, but to let Massie go on a Sunday morning show to campaign for DeSantis (and criticize his opponents), on the same day that the candidate drops out of the race, is in bad form. I don't know if Massie was blindsided by DeSantis on that or not, but it didn't work out well for Massie.

Who do you think Thomas would support at this point in time?

 

[Invisible Man]

Thomas has been up until recently. I get his animosity at Trump, it's well deserved, but going after Trump is not a smart move. Thomas has good reason for his TDS but it's starting to affect his judgement.

Massie doesn't have TDS.

Trump has MDS.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Trump was in court this morning..


Carroll is suing Trump for defamation over remarks he made in 2019, while he was president, denying her allegation that he raped her in the dressing room of a department store in the mid-1990s.

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So, this Carroll person waits 30 years to take action?

I mean, I think it's pretty unlikely that I'd personally be raped, but I think my next stop would be a hospital and a police station to file a report.

Unless of course the incident never happened, and the story was bogus. Filing a false report is a felony.

Anyway, I guess it's a bit off topic. I'm sure we can dig up a 'me too' movement thread, but then again, I don't really feel like rehashing how ridiculous it is.

 

[Anti Federalist]

https://twitter.com/MassieforKY/status/1749430833063051376

Just sent him $20 bucks.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Massie said, “You know, the main thing I hear from people back home is there mad that nobody’s held accountable in Washington DC. I think we need to hold Trump accountable. He didn’t build the wall. He didn’t get Mexico to pay for it. He ran up 7.8 really in dollars of debt. He fumbled the repeal of Obamacare. There’s so many missed promises. He gave a commendation award to Dr. Fauci, after he shut down our country and hasn’t held anybody at the FDA or the CDC responsible. so, you know, let’s hold that guy accountable.”

He added, “Here’s the problem. You know, this summer we’re going to be litigating these case in the court these indictments are going to ripen into convictions And we’re going to be talking about the finer points of whether you can pay a porn star with your campaign money, or whether you should write it off as a business expense. The lawsuit itself is ridiculous, but the underlying facts aren’t disputed, and I think people are going to kind of recoil from that when all that stuff starts coming out this summer. And the polls that show him beating Biden, those are going to switch very quickly.”

He's not wrong about convictions.

So what?