Massie: This Summer Trump’s ‘Indictments Are Going to Ripen into Convictions’

[Swordsmyth]

Indications also point to a delusional state. Your delusional state. Do you believe those indications too?

LOL
You can't gaslight me.

 

[Anti-Neocon]

Maybe. The Democrat primary process is nothing but a proven (and adjudicated) farce at this point. Is Newsom the smoky backroom choice? Maybe. He has put his best effort forward, and he has billionaire backers.

Not so sure how a GOP contested convention would go. DeSantis may have a good shot at that. Would be interesting. Pushing Haley through in such a circumstance might prove problematic for the neocon establishment.

IMO, a Dem convention would go to Kamala.

The VP has enough claim to being "next in line" that anyone who disputes that it would be Kamala's time would be racist and sexist because that's how too many people within the Democratic Party have been trained to operate. Resistance would be futile.

 

[acptulsa]

LOL
You can't gaslight me.

Indications are somebody did.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

IMO, a Dem convention would go to Kamala.

The VP has enough claim to being "next in line" that anyone who disputes that it would be Kamala's time would be racist and sexist because that's how too many people within the Democratic Party have been trained to operate. Resistance would be futile.

Black women in particular make up a very reliable portion of the Democrat base. I can't imagine that it would go over well with them if she got passed over being the candidate if Biden doesn't/can't go.

Now if it were Michelle, that might change up the math, even though I don't think Harris would just slink away - she WANTS to be president. Listening to Larry Elder on Timcast last Friday, he indicated that she doesn't want anything to do with going back into the White House, but I'm not so sure that's the full analysis... she could play the front-ward facing role of president, while BHO actually handles the business of the office in the background.

If I were heading up the Democrats strategy, I'd let Biden keep running until/unless his ticker quits ticking, continue working to destroy Trump in every/any way possible, and do everything I could to push Haley. That to me feels like their safest, most reliable, and best play at this point - because no matter how hard they spin it, at the end of the day, the people in this country can look around and see what's actually happening... they see an economy that is languishing, the value of their earnings steadily diminishing from inflation, the government entangling it's self in more and more international wars/disputes, and a complete mayhem on our borders, allowing hundreds of thousands of unvetted people entry into this country, creating a cultural and potentially public safety upheaval... and all of that right now lands at the feet of Biden and the Democrats more broadly. Getting a RINO like Haley into office will allow them, and more specifically the Deep State, to continue their plans, while taking the heat off of the Democrats.

IMHO, their best bet is to push Haley forward and try to get her into office. It would rankle their base, having the first woman president be a Republican, but it would be the safest way for them to further their ends, and that more than anything is what matters to them.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

IMO, a Dem convention would go to Kamala.

The VP has enough claim to being "next in line" that anyone who disputes that it would be Kamala's time would be racist and sexist because that's how too many people within the Democratic Party have been trained to operate. Resistance would be futile.

Democrat Party doesn't have to listen to people at the convention, that being established in the courts. There is also the issue of super-delegates, who are purely back-room party swamp dwellers. The choice would be made in the back rooms.

Black women in particular make up a very reliable portion of the Democrat base. I can't imagine that it would go over well with them if she got passed over being the candidate if Biden doesn't/can't go.

Now if it were Michelle, that might change up the math, even though I don't think Harris would just slink away - she WANTS to be president.
...

Gavin/Michelle 2024. Prove me wrong.


Edit: Why wouldn't Michelle want to run? Because she now knows that the real power and wealth doesn't reside with politicians or front people. The plutocracy doesn't like publicity. Klaus Schwab is just their public face.

 

[69360]

IMO, a Dem convention would go to Kamala.

The VP has enough claim to being "next in line" that anyone who disputes that it would be Kamala's time would be racist and sexist because that's how too many people within the Democratic Party have been trained to operate. Resistance would be futile.

Democrats don't like Harris. Racist arguement won't work for her with all the blacks she sent to prison.

 

[PAF]

Democrat Party [added by PAF: Republican Party as well] doesn't have to listen to people at the convention, that being established in the courts. There is also the issue of super-delegates, who are purely back-room party swamp dwellers. The choice would be made in the back rooms.

Most folks are unaware or acknowledge this.

So, Brian, legitimate question, why do you still vote?

 

[acptulsa]

Most folks are unaware or acknowledge this.

Yes, it's true, as we discovered in '12. But we also discovered in '12 that it's a lot harder to cover up in the GOP than in the party of superdelegates.

More people need to see it.

 

[Anti-Neocon]

Democrats don't like Harris. Racist arguement won't work for her with all the blacks she sent to prison.

Doesn't matter, picking a white man over her would be like dropping a nuke on the coalitions they worked so hard to build using identity politics. Even they know better politically.

Regardless, Biden is going to be the nominee 95% of the time so this is probably a moot point.

 

[Snowball]

Accuse DeSantis of whatever you want, but he’s a proven fiscal conservative.

Trump is a drunk spender & creator of yet another military branch (deep state)

Space Force was already in development. He just happened to be sitting in the chair at the time.

 

[Snowball]

And did he go out and campaign for the person Kissinger was managing the campaign for?

That's a Masonic grip Ron's giving him.

Ron is a Mason. But not a bad one.

 

[PAF]

Yes, it's true, as we discovered in '12. But we also discovered in '12 that it's a lot harder to cover up in the GOP than in the party of superdelegates.

More people need to see it.

Yes they do. But something tells me that they still would not acknowledge it and still feel the “patriotic duty” to choose among the pre-selected. Like picking between sport teams, that’s all they have to live for, and what keeps the system alive.

 

[Mordan]

Regardless, Biden is going to be the nominee 95% of the time so this is probably a moot point.

I also think that. At the end of the day, the Biden string pullers want to keep their own positions which they would lose if Gavin comes in just like that.

The optics of a fake democracy do matter.

 

[nobody's_hero]

In the event that something prevents one of the presumptive nominees not to run in the general, the nominee will end up being anointed by their respective party establishments. Newsome is in a good position for that. But I think Desantis knows that if it comes to that, he won't be the GOP's choice.

I'm a bit rusty on the delegate strategy, but don't the delegates become unbound if for some reason their candidate doesn't make it to the general election? Technically they could nominate anyone, but it would be a matter of whether deadlines had passed to appear on the ballot.

Paging teh Collins now. He would know.

 

[Invisible Man]

I'm a bit rusty on the delegate strategy, but don't the delegates become unbound if for some reason their candidate doesn't make it to the general election?

Paging teh Collins now.

Some do, some don't. And it varies by party.

But the delegates are generally party loyalists regardless.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Democrat Party [added by PAF: Republican Party as well] doesn't have to listen to people at the convention, that being established in the courts. There is also the issue of super-delegates, who are purely back-room party swamp dwellers. The choice would be made in the back rooms.

Most folks are unaware or acknowledge this.

So, Brian, legitimate question, why do you still vote?

It's only matter of degrees, and AFAIK, the GOP has not yet gone to court and won on the premise that voting doesn't matter. The GOP still does the old fashioned small time cheating. Some local crone refuses to count votes or something. Or they use some procedural tricks. Why do you seem to always have to counter criticism of the Democrats with whataboutisms about the GOP?

As far as voting, like most liberty minded people, it's just a protest vote. The last POTUS candidate I voted for that actually won was the "humble foreign policy" GWB. And I'd point out, at that time hardly anyone mentioned neocons or the neoconservative agenda. GWB was a liar, and we were had. Myself, I intuitively knew that Bill Kristol, John McCain and Lindsey Graham were part of some evil war-mongering MIC cabal, but I didn't have a name for it (yet).

 

[Swordsmyth]

Why do you seem to always have to counter criticism of the Democrats with whataboutisms about the GOP?

While promoting D agenda items disguised as L purism.

 

[acptulsa]

While promoting D agenda items disguised as L purism.

Agenda items.

Here we have someone who would eradicate puppies if Democrats came out in favor of them. And if the Democrats came out against skunks, he'd have one in his house the next day.

Unprincipled partisanship has destroyed this nation, and it's preventing any hope of steering clear of catastrophe. I'll support any damned fool thing they say they don't like. Brilliant.

Sure makes a body insanely easy to manipulate.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Agenda items.

Here we have someone who would eradicate puppies if Democrats came out in favor of them. And if the Democrats came out against skunks, he'd have one in his house the next day.

Unprincipled partisanship has destroyed this nation, and it's preventing any hope of steering clear of catastrophe. I'll support any damned fool thing they say they don't like. Brilliant.

Sure makes a body insanely easy to manipulate.

LOL
There are no puppies on the D agenda, and PAF is the one advocating the skunks that are on it.

 

[Dr.3D]

A b c d goldfish?
L m n o goldfish, m r puppies, c m p n?