Major ENDORSEMENT FOR RONPAUL

[MsDoodahs]

People who don't know anything about racing need to stfu. It's not a scam, in fact the amount they're talking about for this is a great deal. $300,000 is chump change compared to what we have raised for RP this past year. If you guys give enough money then the possibility of major sponsorship opens up. DuPont, Budweiser, Home Depot and many more major companies pay millions of dollars to put their logos on these cars.

Everyone of the logos on ^this car^ were paid for with a lot of money. This will be awesome, we just need to give enough money for it. Just because you don't watch NASCAR doesn't mean that millions of other people don't.

If it's chump change, why are you and your buddies here trying to get our little donations of tens and twenties? lol...

 

[thegr8drronpaul]

Hey there,

I am not ruling this out (and know NOTHING about Nascar, admittedly) BUT

the reason this isn't going anywhere is because your website is very deceiving. People had an entire Ron Paul car in their heads, and that's not the case.

Of course we don't need the whole car, but we need to know that the RP ad won't be drowned out by a bunch of larger ones.

 

[torchbearer]

A New Organization: Liberty Racing Political Action Committee is a new non-profit organization created to help comply with the maze of anti-grassroots McCain-Feingold campaign finance laws. Liberty Racing PAC is dedicated to supporting Pro-Liberty candidates and organizations. And Ron Paul Racing is Liberty Racing PAC's first official project!

If you would go to the site and looked it over you will see what our PAC is all about... So i guess you will not need support from us...

Not in Louisiana, no. We don't have Nascar tracks, nor do we have many nascar fans.
we have some speedways, but they are sparsely attended.

 

[Mark]

Not in Louisiana, no. We don't have Nascar tracks, nor do we have many nascar fans.
we have some speedways, but they are sparsely attended.

Besides that, you have my support with an advertising plan that will educate the voters about your platform issues

with unlimited donations from those outside the U.S. and unlimited donations from U.S Citizens that they can deduct from their taxes.


We can run ads that will help Ron Paul type candidates, like you, in their races.


Non U.S. Citizens - Maxed Out Donors - U.S. Tax Deductible Donation Idea for Ads

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1249069

I have a legally incorporated nonprofit organization that we can use to run educational/comparison ads

that non U.S. Citizens can even donate to, and U.S. Citizens can donate to and deduct the donation from their taxes.


I won't take a salary or expenses from the donations, so 100% of the money would be used to run the ads.

This is a GREAT opportunity for people from countries outside of the U.S. to help, and for U.S. citizens to help and also deduct the contribution from their taxes.


That is a very important difference from every other method out there, be it a PAC or 527, neither of which are tax deductible.


Also, the donations to a 501(c)3 are NOT limited in amount like a PAC or 527, which can only accept donations up to a certain level.

Anyone want to get behind this idea?

 

[freedomintheusa]

I see that you can go back a find all the things that are negative about what was going on at that time... Have you not heard of REORGANIZATION.. That is what was done.. I am not Ron Conrad. But You Can Have Your Oppinion, thats no Problen... But We are Liberty Racing PAC, a Legal Organization, that is Trying to raise funds for this project...and we are folling all FEC laws and Regulations... So if you have a problem File a Complant with the FEC. ....................Legitimizing this effort
As many of you know, this effort has undergone some shake-ups recently. I’ve personally volunteered to assist the project moving forward at this time, as I believe that it is a good one with the potential to reach many voters. As we move forward and leave some of the ugliness that has plagued the project in the past weeks, we are looking to the future and what it can bring in terms of success. One of the things we’ll need most is volunteers for the project. Whatever you can do, please contact Ron at [email protected] and let him know! One of the other crucial things is to form a legal entity under the auspices of which to run this project. We are currently discussing how best to implement this so that the project will be both legally sound and financially viable. We are all looking forward to continuing this project. I have made a personal commitment to provide guidance to Ron and others involved in this effort with regard to how to set things up in a way that is compliant with all necessary regulations. I have assurances from them all that being on the up and up in all ways is a top priority for this effort. I was not involved with this project when all of the ugliness occured, so I have given everyone involved a clean slate with the evidence and information I’ve seen in public forums applied to that. I have personally seen no evidence of wrongdoing. I have seen no reason to believe that anything untoward has taken place with regards to the funds for this project except that no one was familiar with legal requirements regarding them. What this means is that no funds were stolen or pocketed. The only individual who has received money from this project is Scott.

What I would ask of you, the reader, is to help put the ugliness involving certain individuals in the past and move forward with us. Once we have a legal entity in place and can begin taking in funds once again, I will make another release here and I hope you all will join us once more in making this a successful effort!

Mike Simon

 

[freedomintheusa]

I see that you can go back a find all the things that are negative about what was going on at that time... Have you not heard of REORGANIZATION.. That is what was done.. I am not Ron Conrad. But You Can Have Your Oppinion, thats no Problen... But We are Liberty Racing PAC, a Legal Organization, that is Trying to raise funds for this project...and we are folling all FEC laws and Regulations... So if you have a problem File a Complant with the FEC. ....................Legitimizing this effort
As many of you know, this effort has undergone some shake-ups recently. I’ve personally volunteered to assist the project moving forward at this time, as I believe that it is a good one with the potential to reach many voters. As we move forward and leave some of the ugliness that has plagued the project in the past weeks, we are looking to the future and what it can bring in terms of success. One of the things we’ll need most is volunteers for the project. Whatever you can do, please contact Ron at [email protected] and let him know! One of the other crucial things is to form a legal entity under the auspices of which to run this project. We are currently discussing how best to implement this so that the project will be both legally sound and financially viable. We are all looking forward to continuing this project. I have made a personal commitment to provide guidance to Ron and others involved in this effort with regard to how to set things up in a way that is compliant with all necessary regulations. I have assurances from them all that being on the up and up in all ways is a top priority for this effort. I was not involved with this project when all of the ugliness occured, so I have given everyone involved a clean slate with the evidence and information I’ve seen in public forums applied to that. I have personally seen no evidence of wrongdoing. I have seen no reason to believe that anything untoward has taken place with regards to the funds for this project except that no one was familiar with legal requirements regarding them. What this means is that no funds were stolen or pocketed. The only individual who has received money from this project is Scott.

What I would ask of you, the reader, is to help put the ugliness involving certain individuals in the past and move forward with us. Once we have a legal entity in place and can begin taking in funds once again, I will make another release here and I hope you all will join us once more in making this a successful effort!

Mike Simon

....................Legitimizing this effort
was a Quote from our Blog from last week....We are not hiding anything as you can read for yourself.. Hope this helps clear up your thoughts about us Again Thanks Mike Simon

 

[freedomintheusa]

And you are running for an office

Not in Louisiana, no. We don't have Nascar tracks, nor do we have many nascar fans.
we have some speedways, but they are sparsely attended.

Liberty Racing PAC is dedicated to supporting Pro-Liberty candidates and organizations.. Nothing is said we only support racing groups.

 

[freedomintheusa]

GO Somewhere else

Besides that, you have my support with an advertising plan that will educate the voters about your platform issues

with unlimited donations from those outside the U.S. and unlimited donations from U.S Citizens that they can deduct from their taxes.


We can run ads that will help Ron Paul type candidates, like you, in their races.


Non U.S. Citizens - Maxed Out Donors - U.S. Tax Deductible Donation Idea for Ads

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1249069

I have a legally incorporated nonprofit organization that we can use to run educational/comparison ads

that non U.S. Citizens can even donate to, and U.S. Citizens can donate to and deduct the donation from their taxes.


I won't take a salary or expenses from the donations, so 100% of the money would be used to run the ads.

This is a GREAT opportunity for people from countries outside of the U.S. to help, and for U.S. citizens to help and also deduct the contribution from their taxes.


That is a very important difference from every other method out there, be it a PAC or 527, neither of which are tax deductible.


Also, the donations to a 501(c)3 are NOT limited in amount like a PAC or 527, which can only accept donations up to a certain level.

Anyone want to get behind this idea?

Go Start your own Post somewhere else... You come here bashing us but i may need to see if YOUR cause falls under FEC LAWS...enough said......I am not here to argue....

 

[Knightskye]

Please don't pay $300,000.00 for a 12 inch sign on the side of car going 200 miles per hour. This has already been verified as a scam.

Verified by what?

And if large corporations pay the same amount for the same thing, are they being scammed, too?

 

[freedomintheusa]

SCAM Don't think so

Please don't pay $300,000.00 for a 12 inch sign on the side of car going 200 miles per hour. This has already been verified as a scam.

Do you really think that if this were a Scam that Kenny Wallace would give us a audio to use... Don't think so....

 

[torchbearer]

Liberty Racing PAC is dedicated to supporting Pro-Liberty candidates and organizations.. Nothing is said we only support racing groups.

Oh, I was under the impression the promotion was done through racing adverts which wouldn't help much in louisiana.
Which begs the question, why isn't there a nascar track in louisiana?
are we the only state in the south that doesn't have a track?

 

[pacelli]

A short video with an endorsement from Kenny Wallace would probably be more effective and not cost 300,000 dollars that could be otherwise spent getting someone elected.

Better yet, why not a commercial featuring Kenny Wallace, to be aired during Nascar races, nationally?

Well that is a possibility, but they need the money first, and it is still highly dependent on personal schedules. Wallace might possibly ride the blimp, too, but that possibility will cost another 400k to explore

 

[JulioForPaul]

Verified by what?

And if large corporations pay the same amount for the same thing, are they being scammed, too?

Verified by the fact that the image on the page of a "Ron Paul Racing Car" that is covered from bumper to bumper with advertising for Ron Paul is a COMPLETE LIE. Hidden on the site is a small disclaimer that the $300,000.00 is only for a 12 inch by 18 inch sticker on each side of the car.

It's fine if a multi-million dollar car parts company knowingly wants to spend 300k to support a racing team...... but to mislead and milk an average person out of their hard earned money is criminal.

 

[Mark]

Go Start your own Post somewhere else... You come here bashing us but i may need to see if YOUR cause falls under FEC LAWS...enough said......I am not here to argue....

One of the things that doesn't make sense is how you ignore or just miss things.

What you quoted DID include a thread/post. How did you miss that?

If you would even look at the thread/post, you would see where I've addressed FEC concerns.

Here, check it out and post your questions in the thread you missed.

Non U.S. Citizens - Maxed Out Donors - U.S. Tax Deductible Donation Idea for Ads

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1249069



What EXPERIENCE do YOU have in running an advertising agency OR a PAC?

Or, was this just an idea that you have no actual past experience in doing?

.

 

[pacelli]

Verified by the fact that the image on the page of a "Ron Paul Racing Car" that is covered from bumper to bumper with advertising for Ron Paul is a COMPLETE LIE. Hidden on the site is a small disclaimer that the $300,000.00 is only for a 12 inch by 18 inch sticker on each side of the car.

It's fine if a multi-million dollar car parts company knowingly wants to spend 300k to support a racing team...... but to mislead and milk an average person out of their hard earned money is criminal.

That's why the free market is such a wonderful thing

 

[davidkachel]

Uh, three hundred grand doesn't sound like "support" to me. That sounds like profit motive.

 

[MsDoodahs]

One of the other crucial things is to form a legal entity under the auspices of which to run this project. We are currently discussing how best to implement this so that the project will be both legally sound and financially viable.

Mike Simon

So what in the HELL are you doing in here asking people to make CONTRIBUTIONS when you do not have the LEAGAL ENTITY SET UP under which to even RUN THE PROJECT?

Explain.

 

[ForLibertyFight]

bump this is a great idea

 

[pacelli]

So what in the HELL are you doing in here asking people to make CONTRIBUTIONS when you do not have the LEAGAL ENTITY SET UP under which to even RUN THE PROJECT?

Explain.

Good catch. I wouldn't put a dime toward something that isn't legal.

 

[freedomintheusa]

Legal entity

That was a Quote from 2 weeks ago off our blog... We have filed with the FEC, and our Legal Entity is filed LIBERTY RACING PAC. We are Legal in every way!