Mad Max in NYC. Biker punks swarm Man and child in SUV

[puppetmaster]

You are truly blind.

Imagine a group of white bikers attacking a black couple.

If you don't see how they would all be up on charges, you obviously haven't been paying attention and are beyond hope.

I tend to agree.... They push the race war

 

[BlackTerrel]

You are truly blind.

Imagine a group of white bikers attacking a black couple.

If you don't see how they would all be up on charges, you obviously haven't been paying attention and are beyond hope.

What are you on about? Many of the bikers are being charged. I'm not sure what you're complaining about?

I also haven't seen what the race is of the bikers... seriously haven't followed it. Isn't it a pretty diverse crew? Were all the bikers one race? I doubt it.

 

[BlackTerrel]

I tend to agree.... They push the race war

Who is "they"? Who is bringing up race on this topic? I haven't seen it discussed outside this forum.

 

[Danke]

What are you on about? Many of the bikers are being charged. I'm not sure what you're complaining about?

I also haven't seen what the race is of the bikers... seriously haven't followed it. Isn't it a pretty diverse crew? Were all the bikers one race? I doubt it.

Mostly black bikers, hundreds of them, only one charged so far? Yeah, right. If it wasn't for the youtube, probably the SUV driver would have been the only one charged.

 

[puppetmaster]

Who is they"? Who is bringing up race on this topic? I haven't seedriver.iscussed outside this forum.

No shit sherlock! Media will not talk about race when it is black on white/any other race violence..

but bet dollars to donuts that race would be the headline if a white gang attacked a black/non white SUV driver.

 

[jonhowe]

I have never been a member of a "club",, though I have been a member of ABATE.
There are "Bikers",, and there are people who ride motorcycles.

There is a difference.


Fifteen Grand and fifteen miles don't make you a biker.

By your completely made up definition that no one else knows or cares about, sure.

 

[jonhowe]

Four NYC cops murdered Amadou Dialo in cold blood and skipped. Their "trial" was a sham - a mockery. Morganthau himself stated openly that he had no interest in prosecuting them and that became very evident during live coverage of the trial.

Several cops butt-raped Abner Lwima (sp???) with a damned billy club and skipped. Billy clubs don't just accidentally slip into someone's rectum. It takes some serious work to get something like that in a place like that. They should all have spent the rest of their lives in solitary. But no.

This cop is almost certainly going to skip. Secrecy and the security of an ongoing undercover operation should be all they need to slip that scumbag right past the jailhouse, the destination he so richly deserves.

I agree with your intent, but Abner Louima's main assailant is in prison until 2025: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima

Another also went to prison but is now out. Abner got several million dollars from the city, as well.
But that was a pretty sensational story. Poor guy.

 

[Grubb556]

Honestly, if I was the driver I would have paniced and, more of those bikers would have been hurt

 

[Ender]

I guess they were on their way home from the Million Muslim March in DC...

Haven't had time to read through the whole thread but see no mention that 4 of the bikers were undercover cops.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/10...-manhattan-motorcycle-suv-brawl-due-in-court/

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Haven't had time to read through the whole thread but see no mention that 4 of the bikers were undercover cops.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/10...-manhattan-motorcycle-suv-brawl-due-in-court/

The press is going stupid at every angle on this. IIRC they were off-duty cops, not undercover cops.

 

[Mani]

Sorry I'm joining this late, but looks like 1 undercover cop has been arrested. He was banging on the window of the SUV.

http://news.yahoo.com/undercover-nypd-suv-biker-attack-193030746.html

An undercover police officer was arrested Tuesday after allegedly lying to police about his involvement in the Sept. 29 motorcycle mob and subsequent attack of an SUV driver in New York City.

According to WABC-TV, the undercover officer, 32-year-old Wojciech Braszczok, was charged with riot and criminal mischief.

The veteran detective originally told police he didn't arrive on the scene until after the attack on Alexian Lien took place. However, video viewed by the NYPD told a different story, according to NBC New York and the Daily News.

In the video, the undercover officer can be seen banging on the rear window of the Range Rover, unnamed police sources told NBC.

"It shows him punching the back window," another unnamed source told the Daily News of the new footage reviewed by investigators on Monday. "And then as the camera is moving it catches him maybe throwing a kick at the side of the car."

After Lien was pulled from the SUV by the bikers, the undercover officer is then seen riding away. Lien was then beaten in front of his wife and daughter by the bikers, who had followed the vehicle up the West Side Highway after it clipped one of their fellow cyclists.

NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly said the officer, who waited several days before coming forward, had been placed on modified duty pending the outcome of an internal investigation. Tuesday afternoon he turned himself in and was taken to Manhattan Central Booking.

The undercover officer was unarmed at the time of the attack, according to the report, and was not carrying a badge.

The rules for undercover officers when it comes to reporting crimes are often vague:

Undercover officers are required to immediately report being a witness to a crime. Uniformed officers are required to take police action if they see a crime occurring, but the rules are murkier for undercover officers who face blowing their cover, confusing civilians who don't realize the undercover is really a cop and ruining years-long investigations.

"Compromising his identity could compromise all the work he's doing and his safety as well," Michael Palladino, president of the NYPD detectives union, told NBC. "It's very difficult to lead a double life."

Four bikers have been formally charged in the SUV assault so far, and police are seeking at least two other suspects.....


This was a good comment:
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So the officer broke a number of rules:

1. Reporting the crime immediately when in fact it took him days.
2. Lying in his "report" to his superior.
3. Participating in assault.

He should be named, fired immediately, charged with assault made to pay the price.
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So basically he came forward because of VIDEO evidence...Otherwise he would have stayed hidden.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

In the video, the undercover officer can be seen banging on the rear window of the Range Rover, unnamed police sources told NBC.

"It shows him punching the back window," another unnamed source told the Daily News of the new footage reviewed by investigators on Monday. "And then as the camera is moving it catches him maybe throwing a kick at the side of the car."

Big surprise there.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

The press is going stupid at every angle on this. IIRC they were off-duty cops, not undercover cops.

I recall one saying he didn't want to intervene specifically because it would blow his cover.

 

[Red Green]

I recall one saying he didn't want to intervene specifically because it would blow his cover.

That's understandable given that he probably spent years convincing that group he was a gay douchebag biker.

 

[Mani]

I recall one saying he didn't want to intervene specifically because it would blow his cover.

....The undercover officer was unarmed at the time of the attack, according to the report, and was not carrying a badge.

The rules for undercover officers when it comes to reporting crimes are often vague:

Undercover officers are required to immediately report being a witness to a crime. Uniformed officers are required to take police action if they see a crime occurring, but the rules are murkier for undercover officers who face blowing their cover, confusing civilians who don't realize the undercover is really a cop and ruining years-long investigations.

"Compromising his identity could compromise all the work he's doing and his safety as well," Michael Palladino, president of the NYPD detectives union, told NBC. "It's very difficult to lead a double life."......



Looks like he enjoyed participating in banging on the SUV, and then took off when it got bloody and even LIED about being there....Oh fuck...They got Video evidence on me...That's when he admitted he was there.


Yes and he can't admit he's a cop....It could hurt his SAFETY. You know Officer safety remember? These guys couldn't think of doing anything that could compromise their Safety.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

I recall one saying he didn't want to intervene specifically because it would blow his cover.

Doesn't add up though. When this started coming out, it was off-duty cops not undercover; and now that the claim is undercover it adds up even less. If they were investigating these bikers, would they not be clamoring to report everything they witnessed in the attack, whether it was related to their primary investigation or not? Undercovers usually have handlers who keep a close eye on the UC's activities. Not 'Hollywood style' with a team of technicians manning a live surveillance van, but close enough where if they were UC in this gang, their handlers would have known they were there on that day. So making any attempt to 'lie' "hey man I wasn't there" pointless. They wouldn't have needed to wait for video to come out.

So it's not adding up. At all.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

The undercover officer was unarmed at the time of the attack, according to the report

Obvious lie is obvious.

 

[MrGoose]

They arrested one of the cops for participating in the attack. I think they charged 4 bikers and are looking for more?

 

[tod evans]

By your completely made up definition that no one else knows or cares about, sure.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

6th biker arrested plus the "so-called" undercover cop. NYPD also issued a search warrant at the home of the guy who's helmet cam video captured it all. They wanted more video, thinking the biker was "withholding evidence". Watch the CBS news report video..
NYPD undercover officer arrested in SUV-motorcycle gang attack

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162...ficer-arrested-in-suv-motorcycle-gang-attack/

Alexian Lien, 33, was treated for cuts and bruises and
released from hospital after being assaulted by motorcyclists.
/ WCBS
(CBS News) An NYPD undercover detective has now been arrested in connection with an attack on a family in an SUV by a group of motorcyclists, reports CBS News' John Miller.
The officer is expected to be charged with criminal mischief for allegedly banging on and breaking the rear window of the SUV. The detective waited four days before coming forward to the NYPD and he allegedly made false statements about his involvement, reports Miller.
The AP identified the officer as Wojciech Braszczok, and said he turned himself in to face riot and criminal mischief charges. He was expected to make a court appearance Wednesday.
Also Tuesday, police arrested Clint Caldwell on gang assault and other charges Tuesday. He's the sixth person arrested following the September melee, including Braszczok.
In other news, there is new video of a road rage attack in New York City in which several men appear to be kicking the driver of an SUV while he laid on the ground. Police say Alexian Lien was pulled out of his vehicle. Another man is seen stepping in to stop the assault.

SUV driver Alexian Lien is kicked by members of the motorcycle gang after being pulled from his SUV



Interesting statistic.. NYC

NYPD Seized Over 1,400 Motorcycles This Year Alone


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The NYPD is getting a lot of flack for not chasing after illegal sport bike, dirt bike, and quad riders swarming New York City. Yesterday the cops released a video showing off dozens of two-wheeled seizures and bragged about over a thousand more.
The NYPD released a statement with this video yesterday claiming to have seized 1,440 motorcycles so far this year. They made 57 seizures on the day of the infamous Range Rover vs biker attack alone. Of their 437 arrests of motorcyclists, 187 of them were for reckless endangerment or reckless driving.

Year to date (through Oct. 3), the NYPD has issued 5,498 summonses to motorcycle operators and seized 1,440 motorcycles, quad and dirt bikes — including 57 vehicles on Sunday, Sept. 29 — citywide.

Patrol personnel have made 437 arrests, including 187 for reckless endangerment or reckless driving. Other offenses include motorcyclists operating without a license or with a suspended license, without registration or insurance, or with altered VINs or license plate violations.

Across the city police have conducted 25 motorcycle-enforcement initiatives to deter and cite dangerous or illegal motorcycle and other motorized bike operation. This includes deployment of police helicopters which help to inform ground units of problematic areas.
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Obviously, the NYPD is trying to show that it's not as weak on two-wheeled crime as many make them out to be, and that reckless bikers are not above the law. I'm still not entirely convinced.