Lou Dobbs joins the "birther" truth movement

[SimpleName]

The reality of it is we won't know until after Obama is long out of office. I haven't followed this much because of this reason. No one with any real authority will put any effort into it and we won't find out. So lets just focus on the real issues for now. There are just so many things about to explode and melt away our country right now, that we need to focus. If Obama's plans can be forced into real length, people will slowly realize there is just too much off the wall crap in these things to accept them.

 

[buffalokid777]

i sense a bait and switch is coming that will embarrass the GOP further,not that they need any help. if i am wrong so be it,but i bet soon the GOP will be made to look more foolish . then they already do!

bait and switch

I think you are right, something about this whole issue doesn't seem right.

I think this whole birther thing was conceived by the globalists to convince Obama, that he should embrace the internet hate bill.

Because most of this issue has been on the internet, and if Obama was really born in Hawaii. If they spread this message through their loyal outlets like WND, they would have all the ammo to have Obama sign the internet hate bill to restrict free speech. (We all know what WND said about Ron Paul during the election and were warmongering cheerleaders for the middle east)

Also if they came up with a true undeniable birth certificate for Obama. They could discredit 9-11 truth since the globalists have adopted the Birther name much like the truthers. Even though there is so much more evidence in the pipeline about 9/11. I think this Birther thing is a red herring to discredit those who are espousing it and helps to show guilt by association like those trying to get a new investigation into 9/11 as nutbags.

 

[RevolutionSD]

I couldn't agree more. This is an orchestrated distraction, IMHO. I really think people should be focusing on Cap and Trade, Afghanistan, Real ID, Health Care, and all of the other issues.

orchestrated distraction is exactly right.
libertarians should know better. it's just like wanting to impeach bush.
nothing changes within the system. so what if obama goes down? president biden, vp hillary here we come. how is that any better?

the real issue is, why do we need a president?

 

[Peace&Freedom]

If there were a genuine Hawaian birth certificate for Obama, the globalists would have produced it by now, just as if there were genuine photos showing a passenger plane hit the Pentagon it would have been produced by now. If there was a genuine positive law showing everyone was required to pay an income tax, it would have been produced by now. The fact they have not is a more telling sign of the absence of such evidence, than its presence. It's like saying "those guys are sooo clever, they are holding back all proof that they are so clever."

The globalists proceed by bluff and fabrication, not by harboring genuine facts, data or constitutional basis for its actions. The speculation they have secret 'gotcha' data to entrap truthers on tax, 9-11, birth, or other issues is not substantiated by evidence, yet floated about by the same people who say they dislike the 'baseless speculations' of conspiracy theorists. Go figure!

 

[Danke]

If there were a genuine Hawaian birth certificate for Obama, the globalists would have produced it by now, just as if there were genuine photos showing a passenger plane hit the Pentagon it would have been produced by now. If there was a genuine positive law showing everyone was required to pay an income tax, it would have been produced by now. The fact they have not is a more telling sign of the absence of such evidence, than its presence. It's like saying "those guys are sooo clever, they are holding back all proof that they are so clever."

The globalists proceed by bluff and fabrication, not by harboring genuine facts, data or constitutional basis for its actions. The speculation they have secret 'gotcha' data to entrap truthers on tax, 9-11, birth, or other issues is not substantiated by evidence, yet floated about by the same people who say they dislike the 'baseless speculations' of conspiracy theorists. Go figure!

+1

Well said.

 

[buffalokid777]

If there were a genuine Hawaian birth certificate for Obama, the globalists would have produced it by now, just as if there were genuine photos showing a passenger plane hit the Pentagon it would have been produced by now. If there was a genuine positive law showing everyone was required to pay an income tax, it would have been produced by now. The fact they have not is a more telling sign of the absence of such evidence, than its presence. It's like saying "those guys are sooo clever, they are holding back all proof that they are so clever."

The globalists proceed by bluff and fabrication, not by harboring genuine facts, data or constitutional basis for its actions. The speculation they have secret 'gotcha' data to entrap truthers on tax, 9-11, birth, or other issues is not substantiated by evidence, yet floated about by the same people who say they dislike the 'baseless speculations' of conspiracy theorists. Go figure!

I think there is a legitimate Birth certificate and it will be produced after the internet hate bill passes, not until then. I really think this is what this is all about. Killing free speech on the internet and discrediting 9/11 truthers by associating them with birthers once the birthers are discredited. Very logical for the MO the globalists operate under.

 

[Dianne]

Meanwhile, the state of Hawaii says it can't release a paper copy of the president's original birth certificate because they say the state government discarded the original document when the health department records went electronic some eight years ago."
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LOL, that reminds me so much of the way in which George Bush's military records magically disappeared..

 

[Deborah K]

It is shocking to me that we pee-ons have to show our BCs for IDs, school enrollments, DLs, and passports, but candidates for office - let alone the Presidency - don't have to????

The other issue here is the crap the media and dems gave McCain when his citizenship was being challanged. He produced a BC and the law regarding birth on a foreign military base, and the issue was closed. He's not the only one. According to Congressman Poe, a few others in the past have had their citizenships called into question and they all produced their BCs.

It strikes me as odd that Obama didn't just nip this in the bud way back when....it's too late now. Anything he produces now will be looked upon as forgery.

 

[paulitics]

I think you are right, something about this whole issue doesn't seem right.

I think this whole birther thing was conceived by the globalists to convince Obama, that he should embrace the internet hate bill.

Because most of this issue has been on the internet, and if Obama was really born in Hawaii. If they spread this message through their loyal outlets like WND, they would have all the ammo to have Obama sign the internet hate bill to restrict free speech. (We all know what WND said about Ron Paul during the election and were warmongering cheerleaders for the middle east)

Also if they came up with a true undeniable birth certificate for Obama. They could discredit 9-11 truth since the globalists have adopted the Birther name much like the truthers. Even though there is so much more evidence in the pipeline about 9/11. I think this Birther thing is a red herring to discredit those who are espousing it and helps to show guilt by association like those trying to get a new investigation into 9/11 as nutbags.

Yep. This will go down with the lizard people conspiracy to discredit everything else with substance.

 

[Sandra]

Where in the US would anyone have an 'original paper" document? Louisiana's BC's go to microfiche after 3 years. Originals are shredded , supposedly.

 

[teamrican1]

Second, what happens if he's found to not be a natural born? does Biden take over? i doubt is since the VP is selected by the POTUS. So we're left with Pelosi? would we be uber-fucked or would there be a chance to reform the current government into something less malignant (eliminate would be best, but not likely)

The President does not select the Vice President. The Electoral College selects the VP, same as the President. If Obama resigns or is impeached, Biden takes over.

 

[Deborah K]

The President does not select the Vice President. The Electoral College selects the VP, same as the President. If Obama resigns or is impeached, Biden takes over.

From what I understand, if he's found not eligible, then the election is invalid. Therefore there would be a new election.