Libertarian Party Options

[JebSanderson]

And many representatives.

A dozen. In 40 years. They currently have:

0/100 US Senators
0/435 US Representatives
0/50 Governors
0/1921 State Senators
0/5410 State Representatives

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Liberterian party currently has:

0/100 US Senators
0/435 US Representatives
0/50 Governors
0/1921 State Senators
0/5410 State Representatives

The LP was founded as a protest party, to show the joke that is the two party system (and attempt to educate while at it) and has lost its purpose as it has attempted to be politically viable.

 

[JebSanderson]

The LP was founded as a protest party, to show the joke that is the two party system (and attempt to educate while at it) and has lost its purpose as it has attempted to be politically viable.

Well said.

 

[cheapseats]

A dozen. In 40 years. They currently have:

0/100 US Senators
0/435 US Representatives
0/50 Governors
0/1921 State Senators
0/5410 State Representatives

YOU. ARE. AN. INDOCTRINATED. DEFEATIST.

If you are a YOUNG man . . . here's hoping, y'know? Here's hoping.

GOT IT, wide-screen, that NOBP's are NOT on board with a third-party run.

PITY, really, that we can't hammer out a Plan B that includes you but...SHIT HAPPENS. Ron Paul Die Hards know ALL about THAT. The cold hard facts of the matter include NOBP's being a much smaller number than the HOLY GRAIL OF SWING VOTES in the middle. The ones that are ACTUALLY UP FOR GRABS.

Agitation for meaningful choice is HAPPENING, with or without you.

B-b-but Ron Paul IS a meaningful choice. Yeah? Then encourage him to jump the floundering Republican ship.

Don't you have some PHONE BANKING to do?

Would you like me to come back up to Grassroot Central, spreading MY opposition to the Stealth Delegate Strategy?

PISSER ON PARADES R US.

 

[JebSanderson]

YOU. ARE. AN. INDOCTRINATED. DEFEATIST.

If you are a YOUNG man . . . here's hoping, y'know? Here's hoping.

GOT IT, wide-screen, that NOBP's are NOT on board with a third-party run.

PITY, really, that we can't hammer out a Plan B that includes you but...SHIT HAPPENS. Ron Paul Die Hards know ALL about THAT. The cold hard facts of the matter include NOBP's being a much smaller number than the HOLY GRAIL OF SWING VOTES in the middle.

Agitation for meaningful choice is HAPPENING, with or without you.

B-b-but Ron Paul IS a meaningful choice. Yeah? Then encourage him to jump the floundering Republican ship.

Don't you have some PHONE BANKING to do?

Would you like me to come back up to Grassroot Central, spreading MY opposition to the Stealth Delegate Strategy?

PISSER ON PARADES R US.

Can you please re-write that in a way that people other than 13 year old girls can read?

 

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Can you please re-write that in a way that people other than 13 year old girls can read?

As the sword is the last argument of Kings, ad hominems, non sequiturs and CRITICISM OF STYLE RATHER THAN SUBSTANCE are the last resorts of impassioned Political Activists. That is my experience.

Read it and weep, COMRADE.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/24/politics/april-24-primaries/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

Romney sweeps Tuesday primaries, declares race is on with Obama

From The CNN Political Unit
updated 10:23 PM EDT, Tue April 24, 2012

(CNN) -- Mitt Romney swept the five Republican primaries being contested Tuesday, and he turned from securing the Republican nomination and toward the general election against President Barack Obama.

The former Massachusetts governor was projected to win in Connecticut, Delaware, New York, Pennsylvania and Rhode Island while New York.
With a big lead in delegates and his nearest competitor out of the race, Romney told a cheering victory rally in New Hampshire, "A better America starts tonight."

"The last few years have been the best that Barack Obama can do, but it's not the best America can do," Romney said. "Tonight is the beginning of the end of the disappointments of the Obama years and it's the start of a new and better chapter that we will write together."

Speaking to CNN's Piers Morgan after Romney's speech, Obama 2012 press secretary Ben DeBolt said, "The fact is a better title for Gov. Romney's speech tonight, than 'A Better America,' should have been 'Back to the Future,' because he's proposing the same economic policies that got us into the economic crisis in the first place."

Far ahead of the field in the battle for delegates, Romney became the presumptive nominee April 10 after his closest rival, former U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, suspended his campaign. Even though former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and U.S. Rep. Ron Paul of Texas continue their long-shot bids for the White House, the party appears to be consolidating around Romney.

According to a CNN estimate, Romney has 695 of the 1,144 delegates needed, with Santorum holding 273 delegates, Gingrich 141 and Paul 72. By CNN's count, the earliest Romney could reach the nomination threshold is late May, while Obama already has clinched the Democratic nomination, as expected.
Rick Santorum on Mitt Romney Obama pushes for the youth vote Gingrich 'rethinking' campaign Joel Osteen: Obama, Romney are Christian
Gingrich told NBC on Monday that he would "reassess" his campaign depending on how he finishes in Delaware, a winner-take-all state in which he has campaigned for several weeks.

"I think we need to take a deep look at what we are doing," Gingrich told NBC. "We will be in North Carolina tomorrow night, and we will look and see what the results are."

Gingrich spokesman R.C. Hammond said Gingrich would in the coming days "assess whether or not there is a path forward," and a decision could come "in a few days."

But in a concession speech in North Carolina on Tuesday, Gingrich said, "We are going to go to Tampa to fight for an American energy independence plan so no American president will ever again bow to a Saudi king."

Paul told CNBC on Monday that he won't step aside, even if Romney soon clinches the nomination...

SEND MORE MONEY!

 

[Danke]

A dozen. In 40 years. They currently have:

0/100 US Senators
0/435 US Representatives
0/50 Governors
0/1921 State Senators
0/5410 State Representatives

Now maybe, but they have had members in the past.

 

[LibertyEagle]

[I apologize in advance for offending gung-ho Ron Paulers. I appreciate the CONVICTION, I do. But I KNOW up close and personal the "terrible swift sword" of #BigMoney and, from where I sit, Ron Paul is NOT going to prevail ON THE GOP PATH.]

I have heard/read nothing about Gary Johnson being able to "rearrange" the ticket. But I HAVE heard/read him say that he would not PROCEED with a Libertarian challenge if Ron Paul snags the GOP nod.

Even if Ron Paul could win the Republican nomination and then the presidency, I don't think his Supporters "watch the whole movie" -- as they say on the Recovery Circuit. LOOK at the gray in Obama's hair. IF Ron Paul could sneak past Romney in Tampa, HE LACKS THE POPULARITY THAT WOULD FACILITATE HIS INTENTIONS.

Shall he rule by Executive Order?

Obama did not CAUSE the Financial Crisis, but LOOK how willing Republicans are to lay ALL blame at his feet.

We ain't comin' outta these woods in the next four years. WHOEVER sits at that THE BUCK STOPS HERE desk is in for a BOATLOAD of vilification. INCLUDING Ron Paul, who does not seem to me to be WIRED to not give a shit what people think and say.

IF he could win the GOP nomination and then the Presidency, I do NOT think he could take a second term (even if he is willing to be President rather than Granddad in the denouement of his life).

What about a NOVELTY vice president...not someone famous-for-being-famous, but someone famous-for-getting-stuff-done? (Which is NOT Ron Paul's claim to fame, it bears mention.) As one example: T. BOONE PICKENS. People DIG the ideas of #AlternativeEnergy and #EnergyIndependence. T. Boone Pickens actually knows something about Energy, and he LOOKS like he's got another four years in him.

Triathlete Gary Johnson could DEFINITELY do the broad-shouldered SUCK IT UP thing for eight years.

Gary Johnson can take the "blame" for the INEVITABLE decriminalization of #Marijuana. "Smaller Government Lower Taxes" people seem IGNORANT of the immediate and substantial savings AND the immediate and substantial REVENUES. (Notice that I leave mamby-pamby JUSTICE outta the equation, just like America and American Officials and American Executives do.)

Ron Paul as Secretary of the Treasury or, even better, CHAIRMAN OF THE FED . . . y'know, to oversee its HAIRCUT.

Interesting to know that you prefer T. Boone, as his goal was to feed at the government trough to facilitate his alternative energy ideas.

Speaks volumes, cheapseats.

 

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Interesting to know that you prefer T. Boone, as his goal was to feed at the government trough to facilitate his alternative energy ideas.

As opposed to staying the course with our SUBSIDIZED OIL INDUSTRY, replete with wars predicated on our OIL DEPENDENCY/ADDICTION?

Alternative Energy is THE FUTURE. Like the future, it is coming whether hardcore Free Marketers dig how it happens or not.

Be there, or be . . . oh, that's right.

Speaks volumes, cheapseats.

You have ZERO impartiality.

 

[LibertyEagle]

As the sword is the last argument of Kings, ad hominems, non sequiturs and CRITICISM OF STYLE RATHER THAN SUBSTANCE are the last resorts of impassioned Political Activists. That is my experience.

Read it and weep, COMRADE.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/24/politics/april-24-primaries/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

Romney has been claiming the win since before the race even began. Go ahead and weep, yourself, if you want to.

SEND MORE MONEY!

He's not going to quit, because he is fighting to save our country. That seems to be a difficult concept for you.

 

[LibertyEagle]

As opposed to staying the course with our SUBSIDIZED OIL INDUSTRY, replete with wars predicated on our OIL DEPENDENCY/ADDICTION?

Alternative Energy is THE FUTURE. Like the future, it is coming whether hardcore Free Marketers dig how it happens or not.

Be there, or be . . . oh, that's right.

No one has ever called me a hardcore free marketer. ROFL.

Actually, I was very disappointed in Pickens when he did this. But the facts are the facts. He's just another oinker who wants government money.

You have ZERO impartiality.

Impartiality to WHAT, cheap? Because I refuse to support someone whose goal is to feed at the government trough? Pickens has a great deal of money. He can fund his ideas himself, if he really believed in them. Rather, he'd prefer if all of us paid for them. No thanks. Feel free to send him a check if you want though. But, I'd thank you to keep your hand out of my pocket.

 

[cheapseats]

He's not going to quit, because he is fighting to save our country. That seems to be a difficult concept for you.

It seems difficult-or-impossible for you to understand the SLIMNESS of his chances of winning the Republican nomination. If memory serves, that's the word Ron Paul used: SLIM.

It would be much much much much much cheaper for Others (and probably more lucrative for him) to be on an extended Speaking Tour. It would probably do MORE to educate people, frankly, if TEACHING/LEARNING weren't entwined with DONATING/VOTING. He'd get honorary degrees all over the place...the most requested Commencement Speaker on the circuit.

Nicer note on which to end his distinguished career than losing a THIRD presidential bid.

 

[LibertyEagle]

YOU. ARE. AN. INDOCTRINATED. DEFEATIST.

If you are a YOUNG man . . . here's hoping, y'know? Here's hoping.

GOT IT, wide-screen, that NOBP's are NOT on board with a third-party run.

PITY, really, that we can't hammer out a Plan B that includes you but...SHIT HAPPENS. Ron Paul Die Hards know ALL about THAT. The cold hard facts of the matter include NOBP's being a much smaller number than the HOLY GRAIL OF SWING VOTES in the middle. The ones that are ACTUALLY UP FOR GRABS.

Agitation for meaningful choice is HAPPENING, with or without you.

B-b-but Ron Paul IS a meaningful choice. Yeah? Then encourage him to jump the floundering Republican ship.

Don't you have some PHONE BANKING to do?

Would you like me to come back up to Grassroot Central, spreading MY opposition to the Stealth Delegate Strategy?

PISSER ON PARADES R US.

That would probably not be a winner, if you enjoy being here.

 

[LibertyEagle]

It seems difficult for you to understand the SLIMNESS of his chances of winning the Republican nomination. If memory serves, that's the word Ron Paul used: SLIM.

It would be much much much much much cheaper for Others (and probably more lucrative for him) to be on an extended Speaking Tour. It would probably do MORE to educate people, frankly, if TEACHING/LEARNING weren't entwined with DONATING/VOTING. He'd get honorary degrees all over the place...the most requested Commencement Speaker on the circuit.

I think we all know there is a slim chance that he will get the nomination at this point. But, there is still a chance and while there is, most of us will support his efforts. You, on the other hand, seem to be here to advocate for other candidates. Interesting. Really.

 

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That would probably not be a winner, if you enjoy being here.

Yeah, I know. I have an INFRACTION page . . . re-MEM-ber?

I think we can leave ENJOYMENT outta this, or maybe this IS fun & games for Perpetual Activists?

Considering that Ron Paul is TRAILING BADLY, I'd think NOBP's would be busy-busy working on THEIR ground game, rather than WHINING about a separate ground game that can ONLY APPLY MORE PRESSURE on the Bad Guys.

 

[cheapseats]

I think we all know there is a slim chance that he will get the nomination at this point. But, there is still a chance and while there is, most of us will support his efforts. You, on the other hand, seem to be here to advocate for other candidates. Interesting. Really.

I don't know what part of this you don't GET, but if we would wait for Ron Paul to run out the clock on Tampa and he LOSES (as he is likely to do), it would be too late to START this process that scares you so much.

While there is "still a chance", why don't you work on THAT while others work on THIS?

 

[Shotdown1027]

Writing in Ron Paul.

NOBP

Why? All of your criticisms for third parties apply double to writing in Ron Paul. It won't even get counted in most states, the media won't cover it at all, and it won't have any effect on ballot access or public perception.

You could at least help a party maintain ballot access.

 

[JebSanderson]

Why? All of your criticisms for third parties apply double to writing in Ron Paul. It won't even get counted in most states, the media won't cover it at all, and it won't have any effect on ballot access or public perception.

You could at least help a party maintain ballot access.

I don't care to help the LP with ballot access and I don't support the party platform. The only party I would consider voting for apart from voting for RP is the CP, but I don't like their nominee and they have even less of a chance than the LP, even though I do agree with most of their platform.

Since Ron Paul is the only presidential candidate this year I can support, I will be voting for him no matter what.

 

[cheapseats]

I don't care to help the LP with ballot access and I don't support the party platform.

I don't care to help the Republican Party, which is every bit as culpable as the Democratic Party, and I don't support the party platform.

Since Ron Paul is the only presidential candidate this year I can support, I will be voting for him no matter what.

"It's a free country."

Ron Paul isn't even CLOSE to securing the Republican nomination and, as you keep mentioning and as everyone knows, Gary Johnson is a super-long shot. There is plenty of work to be done on both fronts.

Are you diligently doing the PHONE FROM HOME thing, and the GOTV thing? Voter turnout is exceptionally low.

Some Ron Paul Supporters apprehend ADVANTAGE in low Voter turnout. What say you?

 

[mport1]

The Libertarian Party is now a joke and should be completely ignored. They are a waste of time and money. After the Barr/Root ticket and the likely Gary Johnson nomination, they are just a party of statist Republicans.

If you are going to play politics, why not just do so in one of the main parties? Who cares about their labels? Ron Paul has clearly never been a Republican but has been elected as one. Just put the R or D by your name and campaign on a libertarian message.