Libertarian Party is a complete waste of time and energy.

[EvilEngineer]

Oddly, the whole idea of a Libertarian party, is an oxymoron. As it implies collectivism of a group of people who don't believe in it.

 

[Truth-Bringer]

Oddly, the whole idea of a Libertarian party, is an oxymoron. As it implies collectivism of a group of people who don't believe in it.

No, collectivism is based on people grouping together to deny rights. Libertarians group together to secure their right to engage in peaceful, honest, voluntary activities.

Collectivists believe they have the right to control other people's activities, even if they are peaceful, honest, and voluntary.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Oddly, the whole idea of a Libertarian party, is an oxymoron. As it implies collectivism of a group of people who don't believe in it.

E X A C T L Y !

Thanks!

 

[Number19]

literatim (Senior Member) wrote, in response to Number19, "Way to be collectivist"

EvilEngineer (Senior Member) wrote, "Oddly, the whole idea of a Libertarian party, is an oxymoron. As it implies collectivism of a group of people who don't believe in it."

At their core, Statism adheres to the belief that the "State" is supreme and Libertarianism adheres to the belief that the Citizen is supreme.

The foundation for American Statism was laid with the 14th Amendment.

The LP is "collectivist" only in the since that any and all Government would be considered "collectivist" and, if this is accurate, then the only alternative is a pure form of Anarchy.

But Anarchy is not possible by definition, because "bands" of outlaws would form to prey on the weak, and any form of "banding" employs a rudimentary form of "government" and "collectivism".

Life is collectivist.

In the political sense, the belief that the Individual is supreme is non-collectivist.

 

[MN Patriot]

Oddly, the whole idea of a Libertarian party, is an oxymoron. As it implies collectivism of a group of people who don't believe in it.

The libertarians who believe this do nothing to promote liberty anyway, besides complaining. So let them live in their cabin in the woods, with their tin-foil hats on.

Human beings are a social animal in nature, so if we are to have some degree of freedom we need to coordinate with like minded individuals and do what needs to be done to keep the tyrants at bay.