Libertarian national convention May 27–30 in Orlando (Official thread)

Torch, you are acting like what so many have always criticized Republicans for doing. Voting for whomever the Party nominates; regardless of the candidate himself.
 
so what makes for a better chance in 2020? a good showing in 2016.
To torpedo the LP ticket in 2016, is to guarantee is has no effect at all in 2020. You have to look at this long term in a minor party. When you are deep in a hole, you have to climb out one step at a time. You aren't going to get from here to there in one jump. Not with the rules made by the two major parties.

15% would force a major party status to the LP by the two major parties own rules.
 
andy2044 said:
There will be no winning for liberty if we elect moderate Republicans
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they won't be elected, but they will appeal to enough people from different coalitions to possibly meet a criteria to be considered a choice going into the future.
 
silverhandorder said:
Ah cognitive dissonance is strong in some. Trump people are bad because of A. LP is good because of A. :D
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Can you list what Trump's policies are... this week?
I know that it will be a challenge since they are constantly "evolving", on the other hand, you could vote for an LP candidate that isn't 100% pure, in fact, he may only be partially pro-liberty, but his positions are known and are unchanging.

So either you can support the Chameleon Trump, or you can vote for someone who is honest about their beliefs and may only line up with you 80% of the time.
 
LibertyEagle said:
I pointed out some facts about Johnson's positions, yes, and gave multiple sources for what I said. You seem to have an issue with that.
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Actually, we all witnessed you calling Gary a POS.

You've been pimping Trump for months, and now you "point out facts" like "Johnson's a POS". No one believes that you're "just pointing out facts". You're campaigning for your authoritarian pick for president.

Yes, after Rand dropped out, Trump became my 1st choice.
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Yes, we all know this.
 
LibertyEagle said:
Are you kidding??? Weld is a high-ranking member of the CFR!! That is everything that is wrong with the GOP. Surely, you know that.
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Not kidding. I know who Weld is and what he has been a member of. I don't believe in the CFR boogiemen. It's just a thinktank. Not that I agree with CFR, but they don't have any secret powers.

Weld isn't going to be vpotus. Everyone knows that. His being a Governor brings even more legitimacy to the ticket. He helps more than hurts.

I'd like to see a real third party that is somewhere between R and D. Maybe the LP can become that?
 
RJ Liberty said:
Actually, we all witnessed you calling Gary a POS.
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Because he is.

I listed a number of his positions and sourced them all. Look in the eval thread that Bryan started.

You've been pimping Trump for months, and now you "point out facts" like "Johnson's a POS". No one believes that you're "just pointing out facts". You're campaigning for your authoritarian pick for president.
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I'm not "pimping" anyone. When I have commented about Trump it has been to correct the lies posted. As I have said many, many times on here, he is a very flawed candidate and has numerous positions you can honestly fault him for. But, to lie? It isn't necessary and makes those doing it look very petty and foolish and completely lacking in any ethics.

Yes, we all know this.
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Good.

Your position now seems to be that if you bash me personally, that will somehow change the facts about Johnson and his CFR running mate. It won't, you know. lol
 
69360 said:
Not kidding. I know who Weld is and what he has been a member of. I don't believe in the CFR boogiemen. It's just a thinktank. Not that I agree with CFR, but they don't have any secret powers.

Weld isn't going to be vpotus. Everyone knows that. His being a Governor brings even more legitimacy to the ticket. He helps more than hurts.

I'd like to see a real third party that is somewhere between R and D. Maybe the LP can become that?
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Well, I think you are naive about the CFR and have not done your homework. But, that is your choice.
 
torchbearer said:
Can you list what Trump's policies are... this week?
I know that it will be a challenge since they are constantly "evolving", on the other hand, you could vote for an LP candidate that isn't 100% pure, in fact, he may only be partially pro-liberty, but his positions are known and are unchanging.

So either you can support the Chameleon Trump, or you can vote for someone who is honest about their beliefs and may only line up with you 80% of the time.
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Trump will build a wall. Renegotiate deals. Bring back jobs.

I may not agree with everything but don't tell me he changed on those. Each of those he goes into great detail talking about it at every rally.
 
RJ Liberty said:
Torch, don't ask anyone to try to sort that out. By the time the research is done, and the post made, Trump's position will have changed, rendering the post useless.
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well, that is the challenge, even to reporters. Can they publish their report before he changes again.
 
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