Let's list all the potential candidates for President in 2016

It's Nikki Haley, not Nikky.

Also, Jesse Ventura would not run in any party. Move him from Libertarian to Other.

Other than that, great list. It's very realistic.
 
older people are going to moderate themselves come 2016, increasingly approaching their death beds and needing more government handouts. youth will radicalize come 2016. when you analyze demographics and chances of people and the strategy they need, you need to include that. i am suspecting there will be a radical wing of freedom movement come the next few election cycles

Yeah, that's what the dirty hippies said in the '60's.
 
It's Nikki Haley, not Nikky.

Also, Jesse Ventura would not run in any party. Move him from Libertarian to Other.

Other than that, great list. It's very realistic.

Thanks. I've spent alot of time polishing it. Mostly just have to work on the Dems a bit more. I'm not familiar with many of the Dems in tiers 2 and 3.
 
Hey, we have 4 years to find a liberty candidate to run as a Democrat :p

This guy -- http://www.claytonforsenate.com/issues.html (Parents were Goldwater repubs.) He ran for senate in 2008, losing the dem-primary with 30k votes to the winner's 60k votes; the eventual dem nominee lost badly to Lamar Alexander that year. In 2012, the day after Clayton won his second attempt at the seven-way-split dem-primary for the 2012 senate race in TN with ~30% of the votes (48k this time around), the dem-establishment totally disowned him. From what I can tell, he got *zero* dollars in donations -- http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/can_detail/S8TN00279 He lost to Bob Corker pretty badly, 700k votes to 1500k votes... but Corker had $10m in cash, and spent $5m.

If we can get Clayton to run again in 2014, with some cash from liberty-folks, there are two seats up for re-election, one senate seat and one governorship. Clayton will be 38 then, and therefore will be 40 in time for the next presidential election -- just old enough to be seen as a 'serious' dem candidate. (Historically, repubs like candidates in their mid-50s and older, but dems prefer mid-40s candidates: JFK was 43, RFK'68 was also 43, Bill Clinton 46, Obama 47.) Incidentally, Biden is going to be 74, and Hillary is going to be 69. Rand is unlikely to have the curse/luxury of facing Hillary -- an upstart like Gillibrand seems more likely.

Anyways, as for TN races, in 2014 Lamar Alexander will be up for re-election, and at age 74 he is prolly to old to have a shot at the presidency... which he attempted back in 1996 and 2000 at age 60 btw... but he is certainly not too old for re-election to the Senate. (The average age among incumbent-senior-senators was 74 in this past 2012 cycle, and of the 74-and-up crowd, only two of the fourteen retired willingly. Most run again at 74 and 78. Running again in your 80s is rarer.) Seems unlikely that Clayton would be able to beat Lamar, even with strong outside funding. Lamar gets ratings of 78% fiscal + 55% constitutional, similar to Wicker/Hoeven/Johanns, a bit worse than Lindsay Graham.

The other race is the gov-race, and the incumbent repub there is a first-term guy elected in 2010, ranked as the absolute worst repub governor by CATO on fiscal issues. (To be fair, the CATO analysis merely ranks year-by-year *changes* in state spending... Gov Christie hiked the already outrageous NJ spending by 2% and got a super grade whereas Gov Haslam seemingly-more-dramatically-hiked the very low TN spending by 14% and got a failing grade). Here is a blogger which has a lot of anger regarding the current Governor, partly on tax & spend, but mostly on federalization (cf tax&spend of course) plus some liberty issues -- http://tncampaignforliberty.org/wordpress/tag/haslam/ Also worth noting, total spending on the dem-races seems to be about $1 or $2m during the primaries, versus $5m in repub-primaries.

I don't know any liberty-movement folks in TN. Is there somebody on the ground there, or familiar with statewide politics, that can comment on whether or not a young unknown dem with a liberty-leaning message would have a shot at unseating the current gov? Polls earlier this year show he is very strong: dems and indeps gave Haslam 60% approval, repubs and tea gave him 80%. (Only 13% were in the tea-party.) TN economy rated v.bad by 20%, fairly bad 35%, f.good 40%, v.good 3% ... but 30% blamed obama, 25% statehouse, 12% gov. That said, 55% disapproved of obamacare, and haslam is pushing for it, so they might begin to blame him by 2014, when the Obamacare penaltax really kicks in. There is also the question of whether liberty-candidates on the repub side already exist for TN senate and TN governor seats in 2014 -- I've not heard of any. Still, running a liberty-candidate in the repub-primaries would not preclude us from running Clayton in the dem-primaries simultaneously.
 
Democrat: Tier 1
Hillary Clinton
Joe Biden
Andrew Cuomo
Deval Patrick
Martin O'Malley
Tim Kaine
Elizabeth Warren

Democrat: Tier 2
Julian Castro
Mark Warner
Kirsten Gillabrand
Evan Bayh
Amy Klobuchar
Antonio Villaraigosa
Brian Schweitzer
Debbie Schultz
Cory Booker
Jay Nixon

Democrat: Tier 3
John Hickenlooper
Rahm Emanuel
Joe Manchin
Dennis Kucinich
Al Gore
Jack Markell
Ed Rendell
Charlie Crist (conditional on becoming FL Governor 2014)
Sherrod Brown
Jim Webb
Jerry Brown
Russ Feingold

Republican: Tier 1
Rand Paul
Marco Rubio
Paul Ryan
Jeb Bush
Chris Christie
Bobby Jindal
Rick Santorum

Republican: Tier 2
Jon Huntsman Jr
Condoleezza Rice
Mike Pence
Scott Walker
Susana Martinez
Eric Cantor
Bob McDonnell
Sarah Palin
Jim DeMint
Mike Huckabee
Tom Corbett

Republican: Tier 3
Rick Perry
Nikky Haley
John Kasich
Michele Bachmann
Mitch Daniels
Rob Portman
Tim Scott
Brian Sandoval
Kelly Ayotte
Rick Scott
Haley Barbour
Sam Brownback
John Thune

Libertarian:
Gary Johnson
Andrew Napolitano
Mary Ruwart

Green:
Jill Stein
Farheen Hakeem
Howie Hawkins
Harley Mikkelson
Cheri Honkala
Gayle McLaughlin

Other:
Vermin Supreme
Jesse Ventura
Michael Bloomberg
Jeff Boss
Jimmy McMillan


Corrections: Removed Goode due to retirement from politics and not in good standing with the CP, removed Cain because he will not betray his masters and leave the GOP. Added more Greens, moved Napolitano to LP, since he's registered LP.
 
I actually think guys like Daniels & Thune would have to factor higher, Daniels will not be interested.
 
Democrat: Tier 1
Hillary Clinton
Joe Biden
Andrew Cuomo
Deval Patrick
Martin O'Malley
Tim Kaine
Elizabeth Warren

Democrat: Tier 2
Julian Castro
Mark Warner
Kirsten Gillabrand
Evan Bayh
Amy Klobuchar
Antonio Villaraigosa
Brian Schweitzer
Debbie Schultz
Cory Booker
Jay Nixon

Democrat: Tier 3
John Hickenlooper
Rahm Emanuel
Joe Manchin
Dennis Kucinich
Al Gore
Jack Markell
Ed Rendell
Charlie Crist (conditional on becoming FL Governor 2014)
Sherrod Brown
Jim Webb
Jerry Brown
Russ Feingold

Republican: Tier 1
Rand Paul
Marco Rubio
Paul Ryan
Jeb Bush
Chris Christie
Bobby Jindal
Rick Santorum

Republican: Tier 2
Jon Huntsman Jr
Condoleezza Rice
Mike Pence
Scott Walker
Susana Martinez
Eric Cantor
Bob McDonnell
Sarah Palin
Jim DeMint
Mike Huckabee
Tom Corbett

Republican: Tier 3
Rick Perry
Nikky Haley
John Kasich
Michele Bachmann
Mitch Daniels
Rob Portman
Tim Scott
Brian Sandoval
Kelly Ayotte
Rick Scott
Haley Barbour
Sam Brownback
John Thune

Libertarian:
Gary Johnson
Andrew Napolitano
Mary Ruwart

Green:
Jill Stein
Farheen Hakeem
Howie Hawkins
Harley Mikkelson
Cheri Honkala
Gayle McLaughlin

Other:
Vermin Supreme
Jesse Ventura
Michael Bloomberg
Jeff Boss
Jimmy McMillan


Corrections: Removed Goode due to retirement from politics and not in good standing with the CP, removed Cain because he will not betray his masters and leave the GOP. Added more Greens, moved Napolitano to LP, since he's registered LP.

Thanks. I'll update when I get the chance. Do each of those Greens have a shot at the party nomination?
 
Thanks. I'll update when I get the chance. Do each of those Greens have a shot at the party nomination?
Yes. Given the Greens history of nominating people who've run serious campaigns before, those are good guesses. Ben Manski is another possibility, as he was almost elected State Rep, and was recently Stein's campaign manager. I didn't include him as he's much younger than the other contenders. Green leaders (here and elsewhere) tend to be much older. He'll only be 42 in 2016.

What happened between Goode and the CP?
Goode did not fix the party feuds, and made them much worse - in Oregon, the state CP put a relative unknown guy on the ballot instead of Goode. In Alaska, the Independence Party refused to put Goode on the ballot because they simply didn't like him, which meant Goode had to spend a great deal of money there setting up a brand new Alaska Constitution Party. Goode was not nominated in Kansas as the Reform nominee, and Goode was unable to receive the endorsements and support that Baldwin got in 2008.

Lastly and perhaps most importantly, Goode has yet to pay down his debts including the ballot petitioners who worked tirelessly for him.
 
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Green:
Jill Stein
Farheen Hakeem
Howie Hawkins
Harley Mikkelson
Cheri Honkala
Gayle McLaughlin

Other:
Vermin Supreme
Jesse Ventura
Michael Bloomberg
Jeff Boss
Jimmy McMillan

For Greens/Other, Stewart Alexander and Roseanne Barr could run again. Stewart is a perennial candidate.
 
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