Ky. County clerk makes a stand against feds

[RP Supporter]

If she's accepting a government paycheck, I don't exactly have much sympathy for her deciding which of the governments laws she's going to enforce. If this was any other job and she decided to do her own thing she'd be out the door.

That said, I would be interested in seeing how she'd fair if she ran in the next election with this now known. If I were her and ambitious I'd embrace the controversy and pull a Roy Moore and try to run for higher office. Heck, I bet the Constitution Party would nominate her for president.

 

[specsaregood]

A fair minded person would probably highlight the part of the sentence that started with "especially". Its sort indicates the conditions that gives the sentence value.

Just saying

Actually I was just going to let that part be; but since you bring it up. In the first part that I highlighted you argue that somebody with a govt job can't allow their own bias and feelings to affect how they do their job; then you introduce your own bias into the equation.

especially when what is being asked of you is not hurting anything more than other people's feelings..

clearly the clerk in question thinks that approving the license would do much more, she values her soul and religious beliefs. you are act as if those have no values because of your own bias.

"especially?" Either you can do what is right all the time or not at all, no especially.

 

[surf]

I'm betting the locals who voted her into office might have something so say about it.......

lousy excuse. just invoke god's authority.

 

[Spikender]

Dog and pony show. Make the battle in the news headlines about "gay marriage" while they pillage people's monopoly money savings and continue foreign interventions and raping of rights.

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

Can't the people who want to get married just find another clerk?

They could, but they want to be celebrated as heroes of the "new civil rights movement."

 

[Christian Liberty]

It's gotta be rough choosing whether to back the Evangelical or the homo eh?


Not for me.

I'll back whomever is fighting federal oversight.

Yeah, this isn't tough for me either

 

[asurfaholic]

Dog and pony show. Make the battle in the news headlines about "gay marriage" while they pillage people's monopoly money savings and continue foreign interventions and raping of rights.

I think it's bigger than that. There is a massive war for minds and loyalty - and the lines are drawn on morals. The establishment/lefties/neocons all want to take God out of the equation and by doing that, they become God.

I'd like to see government out of marriage as well, as I believe it was originally an institution of faith and belief that two become one in the presence of God. But now that government is involved, and that they give benefits based on marriage status, it would be discriminatory for some groups to be denied those benefits. Enter the government , suddenly the definition of marriage is perverted.

So not so much a dog and pony show to me, these are battles that are raging every day and the war to control the morality of men is a huge issue.

 

[Sola_Fide]

just fire her ass. it's another government license, and she's turning the courthouse into her own dmv.

I see that point too. Man, if I had the national attention that this person had, I would do some real education.

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

I hope that none of her supporters respond in kind to the attacks that they will receive. They need to show the world that they are the ones showing love and the LGBT activists are the bigots.

 

[Sonny Tufts]

They could, but they want to be celebrated as heroes of the "new civil rights movement."

And she could resign, but she wants to be celebrated as a martyr for the right-wing fundamentalists.

 

[Zippyjuan]

If she does not like to perform the duties her job requires her to do she is free to resign.

 

[tod evans]

If she does not like to perform the duties her job requires her to do she is free to resign.

Are you alluding to the feds prescribing the "duties of office"?

I believe that's what this whole fiasco is about, federal overreach..

She's not a federal clerk, nor was she elected by federal election...

 

[Ender]

Are you alluding to the feds prescribing the "duties of office"?

I believe that's what this whole fiasco is about, federal overreach..

She's not a federal clerk, nor was she elected by federal election...

The answer is that everything government, Fed or local, is overreach. Gov should NEVER be involved in marriage; the answer is to get them OUT of the marriage business.

 

[Jamesiv1]

If she's accepting a government paycheck, I don't exactly have much sympathy for her deciding which of the governments laws she's going to enforce. If this was any other job and she decided to do her own thing she'd be out the door.

^this

If she were any other private citizen, then there are legitimate ways to protest.

But accepting a govt paycheck, and then giving her employer the finger is retarded. Wouldn't happen in the private sector - shouldn't happen in govt sector either.

 

[juleswin]

Actually I was just going to let that part be; but since you bring it up. In the first part that I highlighted you argue that somebody with a govt job can't allow their own bias and feelings to affect how they do their job; then you introduce your own bias into the equation.

First of all, I was giving my opinion on how I think a govt worker should operate, I don't know why you would equate that to bias but if every ones opinion is bias, then so be it. Also even if it was bias on my own part, I am not a govt worker and my rule is for govt workers. I would follow the same rules had I been a govt worker.

clearly the clerk in question thinks that approving the license would do much more, she values her soul and religious beliefs. you are act as if those have no values because of your own bias.

"especially?" Either you can do what is right all the time or not at all, no especially.

My big problem with her is that she is still getting her salary for not doing work that she is supposed to be doing. Take for example conscientious objector in the army, when they are forced to fight in a war that goes against their religious or moral values, they quit or try to quit their position. They don't thumb their nose at their superiors or still collecting their pay and benefits while refusing to fight.

In this case, tax payers whose taxes pay her salary are demanding that she do her job and she is refusing it. These tax payers weren't asked if paying taxes to a govt that does not recognize their union was OK with them, but their pay cheques were forcibly garnished and used to pay this woman's salary and she has the guts to refuse to offer licenses to the very people that pay her salary.

Sorry but she has to go and carry on the fight at the unemployment line, where I hope the administrator refuses to give her the unemployment cheques because of religious reasons.

 

[Christian Liberty]

The answer is that everything government, Fed or local, is overreach. Gov should NEVER be involved in marriage; the answer is to get them OUT of the marriage business.

I don't quite 100% agree with this anymore but I'm OK with this position. But, if you're going to advocate this, the FIRST step is to advocate against federal involvement wholesale. So you should be OK with interposition here.

 

[Voluntarist]

xxxxx

 

[Chieppa1]

She kinda just sounds like a bigot that says the word "Constitution" a lot.

 

[tod evans]

The answer is that everything government, Fed or local, is overreach. Gov should NEVER be involved in marriage; the answer is to get them OUT of the marriage business.

How can one realistically view this in a different light than the kops in Co. refusing to enforce federal weed laws?

Since there are state and local government functionaries I'm glad to see any of them flip off the feds, for any reason.

(Notice I didn't address government involvement in marriage.)

 

[Influenza]

She's no different than a Muslim DMV worker who refuses to issue a driver's license to a woman because of his religious beliefs. The county ought to fire her for not doing her job.

What kind of false analogy is this? There are no "women can't drive" Muslim religious beliefs.