[Kickoff 2012] NFL Football is Back: Discuss your games here.

[jkr]

I don't mean add more teams. Just move them around. The Cleveland Browns need a new owner. They've barely even tried to pretend to be an NFL team in their 14 seasons back in the league. A new owner may move them.

we HAVE a new owner
we aint going anywhere- but UP

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Interesting coincidence that this subject has blown up all of a sudden.





Many other players (Rice, Garner, Ritchie, etc.) have confirmed that the game plan was changed at the last minute. Jerry Rice is the only one that has chimed in that Callahan didn't like them, although even that fact would not mean that Callahan intentionally threw the game. That's not a believable hypothesis. The next year it became clear that Callahan really didn't like many of the players or the organization though, and left on bad terms.

It's interesting how the former players who are currently employed in the football business have been the most critical of Brown's story. Some are even denying the game plan changed, which is ridiculous. That change is confirmed by far too many people.

The whole situation is an interesting microcosm of politics.

That explains their terrible showing. I had the Raiders cuz they had Rice and SEVERAL other ex-49ers.

 

[ronpaulfollower999]

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Anyone know any free sites to watch the Super Bowl? Or a station to listen to it on the radio? That hopefully I'll be able to pick up on the TuneIn Radio app.

 

[TCE]

Anyone know any free sites to watch the Super Bowl? Or a station to listen to it on the radio? That hopefully I'll be able to pick up on the TuneIn Radio app.

You don't have a tv? It will definitely be on the radio nationally, although I have no idea about that particular app. I am torn regarding who I am cheering for. On one hand, I can't like the 49'ers, especially since Jim is crazy. But the Ravens are pretty unlikable themselves. Flacco is still seriously overrated. He is not elite. Contract year push. I would franchise tag him in five seconds.

 

[Danke]

Anyone know any free sites to watch the Super Bowl? Or a station to listen to it on the radio? That hopefully I'll be able to pick up on the TuneIn Radio app.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/superbowl

http://www.digitaltrends.com/web/super-bowl-xlvii-streamed-on-web/

http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/20/nfl-cbs-super-bowl-xlvii-live-stream/

 

[John F Kennedy III]

No we have been here like 5 months and still don't have tv. I've been listening to the games on the radio app, but sometimes I can't find it cuz it's blocked. I'm afraid this might happen with the Super Bowl. So I need some other options.

 

[Nirvikalpa]

first row 1 . eu

 

[oyarde]

Stop by the House No. 3, I can put it on this gigantic thing the Mrs bought summer before last.

 

[Origanalist]

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[Nirvikalpa]

I had my EMS ball this past weekend, so I had a purple gown and Matt matched with a purple tie, and we took pictures with a giant Ravens flag. I'm so ready for this game.

I also went to the Devils/Islanders (NHL) game yesterday (I am not a fan of either, the tickets were just cheap), and I wore my Ravens hoodie... sure enough some guy with a devils jersey and a 49'ers hat/lanyard sat right across from us and we had to make some comments back and forth.

 

[cajuncocoa]

 

[green73]

Is it August yet?

 

[Todd]

Best thing about a 49er SB win?

I won't have to listen to the Steeler knuckleheads say "SixBurg" any more.

SF will be 6-0 all time and their fan base and team are a bit more easy to take. lol...

 

[green73]

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[Zippyjuan]

Was listening to a piece on BBC which says that the NFL is a socialist business model. Starting with their profit sharing plan where the successful clubs give some of their money to the more fiscally unsuccessful ones down to the drafting of players- the worst team gets first pick and the player choosen has to negotiate his contract with that team- he can't shop his skills arround to the highest bidder for his services as one could in a free market. It did point out that this makes the league more competetive (balanced skill levels of players rather than just one or two teams with the most money winning all of the time) and more profitable overall (if teams are bidding against each other for players, they end up paying more which greatly reduced profit margins and more teams may fail). More competition makes the games more exciting so more fans tune in to watch (ad revenues and ticket sales) and buy team gear generating more money.

 

[oyarde]

Was listening to a piece on BBC which says that the NFL is a socialist business model. Starting with their profit sharing plan where the successful clubs give some of their money to the more fiscally unsuccessful ones down to the drafting of players- the worst team gets first pick and the player choosen has to negotiate his contract with that team- he can't shop his skills arround to the highest bidder for his services as one could in a free market. It did point out that this makes the league more competetive (balanced skill levels of players rather than just one or two teams with the most money winning all of the time) and more profitable overall (if teams are bidding against each other for players, they end up paying more which greatly reduced profit margins and more teams may fail). More competition makes the games more exciting so more fans tune in to watch (ad revenues and ticket sales) and buy team gear generating more money.

I have considered that before , except it is successful and socialism always fails ?

 

[TCE]

Zippyjuan sure knows how to stir the pot. One could argue that the system could work much better. Russell Wilson, Colin Kaepernick, and Alfred Morris might argue that the system is unfair since they can't get their big payday for a bit longer because of the rules. Some of the big name teams who make the big bucks also might complain. Would the league be better with fewer teams? The NBA is a better example of a Socialist system gone awry.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Baseball and soccer use a more competitive system- and more teams are in financial troubles and the same few teams tend to win and attendance sucks at most small market games- the rich get richer and the poor stay poor. The Super Bowl is usually much more exciting on a national level than the World Series (granted the Super Bowl is one game- winner take all while the WS could be as many as seven games which makes each less important).

 

[TCE]

Baseball and soccer use a more competitive system- and more teams are in financial troubles and the same few teams tend to win and attendance sucks at most small market games- the rich get richer and the poor stay poor. The Super Bowl is usually much more exciting on a national level than the World Series (granted the Super Bowl is one game- winner take all while the WS could be as many as seven games which makes each less important).

Baseball is trending away from that, though, and heading toward a more controlled system. Now international players can only sign deals worth a set amount of money and they get to pick which team to go to. Additionally, teams can only spend a certain amount in the draft, depending on which position they have. We shall see how that works out, but the early returns aren't good. The compensation for signing a premier free agent, such as Soriano and Bourne, has inadvertently hurt their stock as free agents seeking big deals. Unintended consequences.

There are many reasons the Super Bowl is bigger and more popular than the World Series. We could definitely debate how and why the NFL system has worked and why it hasn't. I'm not saying I disagree as you definitely raise valid points. Look at the past Super Bowl winners, most of them are in big markets: New England, New York Giants, Pittsburgh Steelers. The outliers would be the Packers and the Colts.