Kerry Bentivolio explanation on the Speaker Boehner Vote

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Hi all,

I just kind of had my myself thrown into a cold tank of water, metaphorically speaking. Earlier today after the Speakership vote I had written an email to Rep. Bentivolio expressing disappointment in his vote.

He just called me back to discuss it. On his way to dinner. Not an aide or staffer or anything, he just dialed the cell phone number I had listed in my email signature.

:eek:

I wanted to pass along what he said to help assuage some of the reaction among the community, if I can (NOTE: Everything in quotes is just me paraphrasing).

1.) He's planning on trying to call back everyone that wrote him about it today, so if you wrote to perhaps you should expect a similar call if you left a number :)

2.) He'd discussed his plans with Justin Amash previously (as they are "smoking buddies" as he put it), and Amash agreed with his decision to vote for Boehner. Bentivolio mentioned that the party nomination had taken place back in November or so and no one had raised a ruckus then about putting up Boehner. He said that if someone wanted a change, that was the proper time to have done it--within the Republican caucus nominating process.

3.) Being his first day he was a bit unclear on the fact that he could vote for someone that hadn't been nominated (wraps back into the previous point), he expressed that he thought the only options were between Pelosi and Boehner and he certainly wasn't going for Pelosi. When I tried to explain he could vote for anyone and that Pelosi needed a majority and not just a plurality so he would have been safe he said that he hadn't been clear on that.

4.) He said the vote was very much a "you catch more flies with honey than vinegar" vote, and that he needs relationships to be able to not even push an agenda but to even get it up for discussion. Something he said he wants to bring up for discussion is a Constitutional Amendment preventing the Federal government from taxing economic inactivity. Clearly this is aimed at the Obamacare mandate atrocity. The anecdote he used was, "What if you walked into a department store, decided not to buy anything, but the staff tried to charge you a fee at the door for not doing anything."

5.) He plans on posting an explanation online as soon as his staff really gets up and running, as promised.

Anyway, I hope that helps. I know my angst is certainly eased. I'm still floored that he called me.

@MODS: This probably belongs in the sub-forum, but I was just posting it here for visibility. If you could give it a day or two and then punt it that'd be great, if not I understand.
 
Thanks for sharing. I was disappointed as well but reading his explanation has calmed me down.
 
he could have punished boner for his bad behavior. Boner would have had to go to another ballot and another ballot if he just vote present.
If he can cave now, he will cave later.
I will tell him this to his face, as I am correct.
 
Good for Rep. Bentivolio. Please post this link everywhere. This should calm everyone down.

Pretty much what happened was that we had a confused freshman.
 
he could have punished boner for his bad behavior. Boner would have had to go to another ballot and another ballot if he just vote present.
If he can cave now, he will cave later.
I will tell him this to his face, as I am correct.

He was a confused freshman:

Being his first day he was a bit unclear on the fact that he could vote for someone that hadn't been nominated (wraps back into the previous point), he expressed that he thought the only options were between Pelosi and Boehner and he certainly wasn't going for Pelosi. When I tried to explain he could vote for anyone and that Pelosi needed a majority and not just a plurality so he would have been safe he said that he hadn't been clear on that.

Of course, nobody wants Nancy Pelosi as speaker!
 
He was a confused freshman:



Of course, nobody wants Nancy Pelosi as speaker!

bullshit.
a simple question to his smoke buddy would have cleared it up.
You don't think it was discussed?
Either the guy wants you to believe he is an idiot.(he isn't) Or he was wanting to sit at the cool kids table at lunch.
 
bullshit.
a simple question to his smoke buddy would have cleared it up.
You don't think it was discussed?
Either the guy wants you to believe he is an idiot.(he isn't) Or he was wanting to sit at the cool kids table at lunch.

I think explanation #4 makes sense. Ron had the same explanation as to why he had to endorse all Texas incumbents and probably why he voted for every establishment GOP Speaker nominee during his career.
 
bullshit.
a simple question to his smoke buddy would have cleared it up.
You don't think it was discussed?
Either the guy wants you to believe he is an idiot.(he isn't) Or he was wanting to sit at the cool kids table at lunch.

We'll get to see soon...maybe tomorrow when they take their first major vote in the House. I think it is on a portion of the porkish Sandy bill. If he votes "yes", then we really need to start barraging him with messages because he is obviously bailing out on us and on freedom. If he votes "no" (as I believe Massie and Amash will), then we can just assume that he is telling the truth about really wanting to be conservative.

Here's the bill they'll vote on tomorrow: http://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20121231/BILLS-112hr__-flood-SUS.pdf
 
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I think explanation #4 makes sense. Ron had the same explanation as to why he had to endorse all Texas incumbents and probably why he voted for every establishment GOP Speaker nominee during his career.

the catch more flies bullshit was not Ron's MO.
 
he shouldn't treat liberty activist like ignorant rubes.
he should say, i want to play ball. i need to give a little to get a little.
then, he will find out he is just being played for a lil' bitch. he will give these lil' votes just to find out he still is no one in the congress.
 
would it even have mattered if he didn't vote for him? if boehner got ousted, it's not like he would have been replaced with a true conservative or liberty-minded person.
 
then, he will find out he is just being played for a lil' bitch. he will give these lil' votes just to find out he still is no one in the congress.

In Ron's first full term, I believe he voted for an establishment Speaker too and he turned out fine.
 
would it even have mattered if he didn't vote for him? if boehner got ousted, it's not like he would have been replaced with a true conservative or liberty-minded person.
you either get whipped, or you whip in the congress.
boner is bad, you whip him. you do that with your vote against him.
otherwise, you are endorsing his bullshit and that is the wrong message.
 
To those calling bullshit and "excuses" that's fine and dandy. I still don't 100% agree with his decision, but I think you have to respect the man for making personal callbacks to explain his vote to disgruntled constituents on his first day in office. Hell I'm not even a constituent, I live a short ways outside his district and we met only once briefly.

I think it demonstrates a lot of character. How many other Congressman do/did that? I doubt even Dr. Paul did.
 
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