Just got off the phone with HQ

[Bradley in DC]

We don't really have a clue how much voter fraud went on until at least a portion of NH is audited do we? For all we know, RP could have gotten 20% but we wouldn't know it.

Frankly, anyone who doesn't think we should have a recount deserves to have Hillary as their next President.

No, we don't know. I agree. While the vote happened, I suggest, seriously, that those concerned with this issue look at the legal chronologies and deadlines, etc. When do absentee ballots have to be in? even from abroad? when are those counted? when is the count made official? what are the processes for recounts? what are the costs? who can ask for a recount? when is the deadline to ask for one? is that request before or after the vote is certified? who pays for one? etc.

If anyone is going to be serious about this, act like a responsible adult, then step up to the plate and find out the answers to those and other questions, formulate a plan, articulate it, be open to suggestions and input from us, and we'll see where we are then.

If you want to whine like children, leave me out of it.

 

[freedom_junkie]

sandra, maybe you can help me, I'm trying to find a barak obama forum somewhere...

 

[Redcard]

Your car was stolen yesterday . . . do you forget it and just look forward to tomorrow? Or do you take a little time and try to do something about your stolen car?

Not the same thing. Not even close.

A better question would be, "My Yugo with 209,000 miles on it was stolen yesterday, and the police found it in 25 chop shops, would I like to put it together or move forward on a new car?"

 

[LinearChaos]

Do you have any connections to them? Is there a possibility that the supporters in our two camps could join forces . . . . ?

There are lots of people on both sides questioning the results:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=obama+nh+fraud&btnG=Search+News

 

[freedom_junkie]

These are all RP sites linear,
of coarse they are going to blog about the fraud

 

[Bradley in DC]

I completely disagree with Bradley. There is just too much evidence of massive fraud in NH to ignore this.

Dr. Paul's vote came in pretty much exactly as the dozen latest polls from a dozen different groups all measured.

I'm as angry as anyone. I just think our official campaign staff is more responsible for our poor showing than any other cause. A recount in NH addresses the symptoms, not the disease.

 

[the Winner is (R0N P@uL)]

Recount, Recount, Recount

Do it Now, so the Establishment will think twice b4 trying it again

The Campaign should pay for it......

I'm not contributing one more penny unless a Recount is done

 

[morerocklesstalk]

These are all RP sites linear,
of coarse they are going to blog about the fraud

Sandra isn't mentally balanced right now. She is telling me that I have multiple ID's with no proof. Why would I have multiple ID's? For me to spy on her? She is on the edge.

 

[Bradley in DC]

+47
(states to go where we don't want to look like a bunch of delusional idiots.)

You don't think we in DC and the territories count?!

 

[freedom_junkie]

the winner, that's just not right. You sound like a child. If I don't get my way then I am pouting, that's not good for anyone.

 

[TheRaguu]

That is not true. 10% in Iowa is not fringe.

We will get associated with tin foil hats and crazy conspiracies if efforts to find foul play come up fruitless. Even worse if it were truly due to mistake what are we going to do? Hang them for an honest mistake?

Dr. Paul should simply let the media know that every vote counts. EVERY vote counts or at least needs to.

 

[freedom_junkie]

well can someone direct me to a barak forum, I have no idea where they are on the internet.

 

[CapitalistRadical]

One would expect discussion from Obama supporters here, but I'm not seeing much speculation about voter fraud.

 

[Finn]

I'd much rather see the campaign spend some money on PREVENTING voter fraud in the next primary than recounting NH.

Funny you should say that because there were some in this forum ordering us over and over and over and fucking over again to stop talking about the threat of voter fraud and how we desperately need poll watchers from the grassroots BECAUSE THE OFFICIAL CAMPAIGN IS ALREADY TAKING CARE OF IT.

Knew it was bullshit then and it's obvous now.

 

[freedom_junkie]

AND if anyone would like to Call this number ->(603) 271-3658 and let the attorney general of New Hampshire know that we see what is going on and that it is unacceptable. Be my guest.

 

[Redcard]

Dr. Paul should simply let the media know that every vote counts. EVERY vote counts or at least needs to.

Every vote doesn't count ANYWAY. This is NOT a popular election to vote the nominee.

You're in this for delegates. You want to stop everything and have Ron Paul focus on the 3/10ths of one percent of the total delegates available instead of the 99.7% out there (including Iowa) ?

 

[roversaurus]

NO

By all means, investigate.
Lots of people investigate. Every story about lost votes is probably good.

But The BEST we could hope for in a recount would be to pull ahead of
Guliani (I don't even know how to spell his name any more)

If we really did WIN or come in 2nd then fraud and corruption are so rampant
that a recount won't help anyway. If they can pull off a fraud like that then
they can make the corrupt the recount too.

All it does is make us look whiny.
"loook Loook see! We didn't loose to first place by 25%! We lost by 24%!
So there! We're important now!"

 

[Redcard]

One would expect discussion from Obama supporters here, but I'm not seeing much speculation about voter fraud.

Why would they? They don't care. Hillary "won" the state, but they both got the same number of delegates.

 

[j6p]

Well we all would like to think they play fair, but in reality they dont. There were several people saying that they had voted and the map said *Zero* even though they voted. They then changed on the map to 31 from zero. Ron was only several hundered away from placing fourth with Ghoul. Then you have *other* who in their right mind would vote other??

 

[freedom_junkie]

Capitalist, um I saw a few threads about fraud. But they seem to be laughing it off or brushing it off. A very few are seriously perturbed though.