Johnson is considering a US Senate run in NM

[Brett85]

The only stance on the life issue that ever succeeded in uniting people in the liberty movement was the stance of Ron Paul. Johnson's (personally) pro-choice stance guarantees that he will never function as a uniter, and will always be a divider.

Johnson's pro choice stance would probably prevent me from ever donating money to him, but if I were living in New Mexico I would probably reluctantly vote for him. He does support overturning Roe v. Wade and opposes all federal funding for abortion, so his actual policies on the abortion issue aren't nearly as bad as someone like Barbara Boxer.

 

[compromise]

I will support Governor Johnson if he runs for Senate, but we must make Tom Davis our main focus in 2014. Davis should be our Rand Paul and Johnson should be our Mike Lee, someone we still support but is not our main priority.

Johnson is economically very bad. Bachmann is more Austrian than he is. Johnson will face a popular incumbent. We don't know who'll challenge him in the primary either. Johnson's association with Romney's loss could mean he's vulnerable to a popular state legislator. Johnson's cultural liberalness may hurt him among socially conservative Tea Partiers.

With Davis, whoever wins the primary wins the general. Davis likely won't face any opposition except for Graham. Graham's decision to support a tax increase has really hurt him among SC Republicans. He is very weak now and is an ideal target for a well-respected Tea Party backed fiscal conservative like Davis.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

What...has Gary been thinking for the past few years...who knows....

He had people who influenced, convinced and supported him for the Presidential run. People who disagreed with Ron Paul on two issues.

The only stance on the life issue that ever succeeded in uniting people in the liberty movement was the stance of Ron Paul. Johnson's (personally) pro-choice stance guarantees that he will never function as a uniter, and will always be a divider.

Johnson's pro choice stance would probably prevent me from ever donating money to him, but if I were living in New Mexico I would probably reluctantly vote for him. He does support overturning Roe v. Wade and opposes all federal funding for abortion, so his actual policies on the abortion issue aren't nearly as bad as someone like Barbara Boxer.

Wanna guess what one of the issues was?

 

[specsaregood]

Wanna guess what one of the issues was?

The war on Kony?

 

[supermario21]

Like I said on another thread, Davis's only opposition post primary will be Lindsey (if he can run as an Indy). He seems like a Lieberman type when it comes to keeping a seat.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

The war on Kony?

Close, but no cigar... Or would that be a blunt in the Johnson camp?

 

[Maximus]

From his perspective, running LP was brilliant. He owns his own "brand" and has a nationwide network of supporters. The local Liberty movement there should help, but our main focus should be Miller/Davis. He chose to build his own brand outside but allied with our movement. Let his movement flex their muscles.

 

[Kotin]

We all begged him pretty much to do this at CPAC 2011.. He scoffed at us.. Please mr.johnson do it this time!!!! I would support you with cash and time you fuck.

 

[The Free Hornet]

The only stance on the life issue that ever succeeded in uniting people in the liberty movement was the stance of Ron Paul. Johnson's (personally) pro-choice stance guarantees that he will never function as a uniter, and will always be a divider.

How did pro life become contrary to pro choice in our common usage of the terms? It is thanks to people who trust the government more than their neighbors, family, and friends.

Anyway, it seems like you are intent on dividing. In fact, you'll "guarantee" it.

 

[dinosaur]

How did pro life become contrary to pro choice in our common usage of the terms? It is thanks to people who trust the government more than their neighbors, family, and friends.

Anyway, it seems like you are intent on dividing. In fact, you'll "guarantee" it.

You have my motive wrong, I'd like to prevent division. I'm just pointing out a fact.

 

[69360]

Awesome, I hope he does. I will send a few bucks his way.

 

[The Free Hornet]

You have my motive wrong, I'd like to prevent division. I'm just pointing out a fact.

Then, in the future, you can point out GJ's positions that are compatible with pro life (esp as regards to the life-begins-at-vitality pro-life crowd). You can avoid pretending like this is a deal breaker as you play up the success of Ron Paul and the failure of Gary Johnson. Sadly, neither was elected President so that score is 0 to 0. Also, you might want to learn the difference between fact and opinion.

Fact: Ron Paul was not 100% successful in the area you claim, "uniting people in the liberty movement".

Opinion: Ron Paul was the uniter, not his position on abortion (which he admits was wrong at times). Claiming otherwise to turn people against Johnson is doing the opposite of what you claim ("... I'd like to prevent division.")

 

[Shane Harris]

Right? He would have won handily, and we could have used him in the Senate. Now I'm afraid (R) NM voters will be all butthurt and blame him for Obama's reelection and won't vote for him because of his LP run.

Worried about this too, but maybe he can still win.

 

[Qdog]

If he runs as a Republican, then he's going to learn just what happens when you bail on the GOP to get 1% of the national vote. /QUOTE]

You mean like Ron Paul did in 1988?

 

[dinosaur]

Then, in the future, you can point out GJ's positions that are compatible with pro life (esp as regards to the life-begins-at-vitality pro-life crowd). You can avoid pretending like this is a deal breaker as you play up the success of Ron Paul and the failure of Gary Johnson. Sadly, neither was elected President so that score is 0 to 0. Also, you might want to learn the difference between fact and opinion.

Fact: Ron Paul was not 100% successful in the area you claim, "uniting people in the liberty movement".

Opinion: Ron Paul was the uniter, not his position on abortion (which he admits was wrong at times). Claiming otherwise to turn people against Johnson is doing the opposite of what you claim ("... I'd like to prevent division.")

Why not just calmly prove me wrong, instead of getting into my supposed motives and personal shortcomings? Is it because you don't have much of an argument otherwise?

 

[NoOneButPaul]

Fuck him.

What an ass.

Day late and a dollar short, this is what he should have done in 2012! This is why I couldn't stand Johnson, there was already an open seat waiting for you you jackass!

 

[Matt Collins]

Fuck him.

What an ass.

Day late and a dollar short, this is what he should have done in 2012! This is why I couldn't stand Johnson, there was already an open seat waiting for you you jackass!

Perhaps, but still, if he can run and has a chance of winning, we need to support him regardless of non-political differences.

 

[Smart3]

I'll support Johnson in any future bids.

 

[Brett85]

You can avoid pretending like this is a deal breaker as you play up the success of Ron Paul and the failure of Gary Johnson.

It is a deal breaker for some of us, just like it would be a deal breaker if a politician supported slavery.

 

[PursuePeace]

source?

I willl defintely support Gary if he runs.