John McCain Ineligible To Be President [Mod: Info is disputed]

[jrich4rpaul]

delete this thread

 

[Jeremy]

It was U.S. territory at the time

 

[jrich4rpaul]

It was U.S. territory at the time

No one will know

 

[ladyliberty]

yeppers - but nice try. Now if it was Ah-nold running for president you might have somethings/ McCain is a legal US citizen born in a US territory.

 

[goldstandard]

The Canal Zone and Air Base = U.S. territory?

 

[kushaze]

This is offtopic, but I might as well say it here: I HATE McCain's straight talk bullshit line.

 

[jrich4rpaul]

This is offtopic, but I might as well say it here: I HATE McCain's straight talk bullshit line.

And it actually gets votes...

 

[SteveMartin]

I doubt if we could even assert this argument without taking a lot of heat from the liberal press and the meat heads in the mainstream. I am not sure if the Constitution precludes people born in us protectorates anyway. And, to try to argue that the son of a serviceman can not be President just because he happened to be at an overseas base at the time would be tough--even if technically correct.

 

[voytechs]

Lol!

 

[Conza88]

And it actually gets votes...

Which is fken sad. Because the last thing he does it talk straight.


McCain Argues for U.S. Troop Withdrawl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8TFKXHiefs

Hmmm yes... So thats why he deserves to be hated. FLIP FLOP, LIAR LIAR.

 

[Somebody_Else]

His parents were both US citizens. Much as I dislike him, he's a citizen by blood right.

 

[tsetsefly]

I thought you only have to be a born citizen not born in the US to be president?

 

[noxagol]

Uh, his parents were US citizens, so McCain could have been born on Mars and he would be a US citizen.

 

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

Uh, his parents were US citizens, so McCain could have been born on Mars and he would be a US citizen.

I hear Mars is threatening Israel.

 

[WillInMiami]

It doesn't matter where you're born, if both parents are US citizens, the child is a US citizen.

 

[RonPaulCult]

As Ron Paul so often says let's look to the constitution:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

 

[John P Slevin]

natural born

It doesn't matter where you're born, if both parents are US citizens, the child is a US citizen.

This link seems to outline the meaning of natural born, with citations.

And the First Congress passed the Naturalization Law of 1790, seeking to define the meaning of "natural born"---I think the exclusion to those born outside the US extends only to those who had one parent who had never resided in the US, citizenship aside.

The constitutional requirement is "natural born"; citizenship alone doesn't cut it.

I don't know where this issue has been decided by courts, but it comes down to what is the meaning of "natural born".

It has come up before, I can't remember when or about who the issue was raised---and the topic has been argued in court.

 

[jgmaynard]

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President"

So then since 1850 or so, when the last natural born citizen (or citizen) who was already born at the time of the adoption of the Constitution died, you'd think no one would be eligible. Come to think of it, that's about when things started going downhill - maybe the founding fathers had that right as well.

JM

 

[Somebody_Else]

The only abuse of the citizenship system is the one Dr. Paul has pointed out: We're giving citizenship to the children of illegal aliens.

I don't see anything wrong with granting citizenship to a child born to US citizens outside the states. I was a week away from being born in Turkey!

 

[sandersondavis]

He is a citizen. He was born under the American flag in the Panama Canal Zone.