Jo Jorgensen Wins Libertarian Party Presidential Nomination

[tod evans]

It can Locally..
You can have an effect locally,, but Federal Government is a lost cause..and should have never been allowed to have any of the powers it currently does.

It will not give them up regardless of which party is in power.

The situation is ripe for the individual states to wrest power from the fed.

 

[devil21]

It can Locally..
You can have an effect locally,, but Federal Government is a lost cause..and should have never been allowed to have any of the powers it currently does.

It will not give them up regardless of which party is in power.

Local voting can matter in some areas but I've seen here in Charlotte, a major Agenda 2030 target city, how the agenda pushers dump boatloads of money into agenda-compliant trained candidates (see: NC IOPL) or haul them off to jail if they don't play ball (see: Mayor Patrick Cannon), then those groomed candidates funnel the funds to the dominant GOTV organization in the area, who most voters dutifully vote for if they are endorsed by said GOTV org. The whole rigged structure was slowly put into place and is why the bigger agenda is now being kicked into high gear. Target areas have been almost fully captured (here it's heavily D dominated but the agenda isn't partisan, the Ds are just a vehicle) and most options are all from the same grooming and funding. The federal model of having no real choice has been put into place down to the local level here.

I'm not trying to discourage any one from continuing to spread the message and I've said that for a long time in my sig, but yes voting is irrelevant as the situation is now.

 

[pcosmar]

The situation is ripe for the individual states to wrest power from the fed.

Currently I am seeing a break-up as the best option.. with hope that liberty survives in some places...

expecting a bumpy ride regardless.

 

[emazur]

Jo's stances on the Fed, gold, and competing currencies:
https://news.bitcoin.com/2020-liber...talks-bitcoin-endless-wars-covid-19-response/

So first of all, it should have never been created. Second, it took a small problem and made it much larger. And third, the first thing I would do if I was President of the United States would be to audit the Federal Reserve.

I would seek advice from former Senator Ron Paul and ask him his recommendation on who should be in charge of that investigation committee. Eventually, I’d like to see the Fed abolished. Because through the Federal Reserve we get money created out of thin air, which is basically the equivalent of counterfeit money.
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So a number of people say that they want to back USD with gold. That would be a step in the right direction, but that is not enough. We have competition in cars, competition with computers, and competitive grocery stores. Why not have competition with money? So the people have access to something that is more planned and a monetary system they can better predict. Right now what we have is money that’s created under the whims of Congress and the Federal Reserve Chair.

I would act in support of a free market in currencies.

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First I would enact Ron Paul’s Free Competition in Currency Act. This would repeal legal tender laws and taxes on coins and monetary metals. And it would repeal the prohibition on coining money

 

[trey4sports]

"I would seek advice from former Senator Ron Paul and ask him his recommendation on who should be in charge of that investigation committee."

uhhh.... I can spot at least one thing wrong here....

 

[jct74]

Here's your chance to get to know Spike!


r/Libertarian will host an AMA with Libertarian Party VP nominee Spike Cohen on Saturday July 25th from 4-6pm ET

 

[kahless]

Jo's stances on the Fed, gold, and competing currencies:
https://news.bitcoin.com/2020-liber...talks-bitcoin-endless-wars-covid-19-response/

She has good points like this which would have made me decide to come out to vote for her. Her stance on immigration would open the flood gates. Screw that.

 

[emazur]

Here's your chance to get to know Spike!


r/Libertarian will host an AMA with Libertarian Party VP nominee Spike Cohen on Saturday July 25th from 4-6pm ET

I've been critical of Cohen as seen in this thread but I meant what I said about him being intelligent. And an excellent communicator and speaker as well (better than Ron Paul in these areas, on par or better than Tom Woods who is no slouch). If you doubt it here's a very recent interview (in which he praises Ron Paul and supports End the Fed):

 

[emazur]

She has good points like this which would have made me decide to come out to vote for her. Her stance on immigration would open the flood gates. Screw that.

Agreed on immigration. My suggestion would be to vote for her and say you'll fight against her on that issue with things to back it up (I've written a little bit on that and can repost here if anyone requests)

 

[Cutlerzzz]

She lost my token vote when she basically said white people need to shut up and listen to BLM.

 

[emazur]

She lost my token vote when she basically said white people need to shut up and listen to BLM.

I also didn't like that tweet and agree it was a bad move but I also agree with this guy who defended her (BTW he's running as Libertarian for Canadian Prime Minister):

 

[Swordsmyth]

Agreed on immigration. My suggestion would be to vote for her and say you'll fight against her on that issue with things to back it up (I've written a little bit on that and can repost here if anyone requests)

That's like slitting your throat and saying you will seek medical attention.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Some folks will just never stop prioritizing their pet culture war issues over things that actually matter.

...The GOP and Dems are rapidly transforming the country into Venezuela?

...And the LP wants to reverse this trend and bring about prosperity, peace, and individual freedom?

Fuck that noise, I want muh bathrooms, cakes, absence of taco stands, whatever nonsense the flashing noise box is on about.

 

[emazur]

That's like slitting your throat and saying you will seek medical attention.

Open borders is losing issue - many libertarians don't support it, conservatives don't, blue collar liberals don't - it'll never go anywhere. So more like scrape from a plastic knife that won't even need a band-aid. Trump on the other hand would be like shooting up a room and then pointing the gun at your own head and hoping you pull the trigger fast enough before Trump grabs the gun out of your hand

 

[emazur]

Some folks will just never stop prioritizing their pet culture war issues over things that actually matter.

...The GOP and Dems are rapidly transforming the country into Venezuela?

...And the LP wants to reverse this trend and bring about prosperity, peace, and individual freedom?

$#@! that noise, I want muh bathrooms, cakes, absence of taco stands, whatever nonsense the flashing noise box is on about.

I support the LP at the very least as an educational campaign in much the same way I respect Ron Paul in '08 and '12. I don't rely on politics and do other things on my own initiative to improve my personal life

 

[Anti Federalist]

Some folks will just never stop prioritizing their pet culture war issues over things that actually matter.

...The GOP and Dems are rapidly transforming the country into Venezuela?

...And the LP wants to reverse this trend and bring about prosperity, peace, and individual freedom?

Fuck that noise, I want muh bathrooms, cakes, absence of taco stands, whatever nonsense the flashing noise box is on about.

Marxism - Libertarianism for children

You're selling the same old, unwholesome, stale bread that has been starving the liberty movement for decades now.

Liberty cannot be separated from culture.

The two are inextricably linked.

Economic prosperity is brought by a culture of freedom...history, tradition, family, faith, ethnicity.

Not the other way around.

The ChiComs make plenty of money.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Marxism - Libertarianism for children

You're selling the same old, unwholesome, stale bread that has been starving the liberty movement for decades now.

I'm selling libertarianism.

Fortunately, the liberty movement has abandoned that stale fare and decided to be successful by joining their former enemies..

Liberty cannot be separated from culture.

The two are inextricably linked.

Economic prosperity is brought by a culture of freedom...history, tradition, family, faith, ethnicity.

Not the other way around.

The ChiComs make plenty of money.

Economic prosperity is brought about by laissez faire; the rest is trivial.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Economic prosperity is brought about by laissez faire; the rest is trivial.

And that is cultural.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

And that is cultural.

Step 1: Support people who are currently wrecking whatever remains of the market economy.

Step 2: ....?

Step 3: Restore the market economy.

Good plan

 

[emazur]

Marxism - Libertarianism for children

You're selling the same old, unwholesome, stale bread that has been starving the liberty movement for decades now.

Liberty cannot be separated from culture.

The two are inextricably linked.

Economic prosperity is brought by a culture of freedom...history, tradition, family, faith, ethnicity.
[/B].

I support a culture of freedom but take post WWII Japan as a counterexample. Economically devastated, twice nuked and other cities firebombed by war, did not have a history of freedom, not religious (Japanese practice Shinto & Buddhism like non-militant atheists celebrate Christmas) and had an emperor announce he was not actually divine, tradition sadly was gradually on its way out post Commodore Perry (1854) and about the only steadfast thing remaining is food. But one of the greatest economies ever arose in a very, very short amount of time. You can argue they have family and ethnicity but in Japan's case monocultural ethnicity became a self inflicted wound by engaging in us-versus-them actions internationally (not that I'm saying multiculturalism is the answer).

I know less about other Asian countries cultures like Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong, Korea but they also rapidly built their economies and probably didn't previously have what you'd consider a culture of freedom.