Jimmy Kimmel show suspended after Charlie Kirk comments

I agree fully.

Government should stop importing foreign invaders by the millions.

Like the Export-Import Bank, I am opposed to both the importation and the exportation of human beings. People should not be property/pawns of the government, and with their own money people should decide for themselves where they want to go and what they want to do.
 
And because they do not "play by the same rules" that we hold ourselves to, because they never stop moving the ball, they keep achieving victories.

They keep moving the ball because people keep expecting the GOP to play by the rules they say are as important to them as to us. And people keep letting them slide when they don't.
 
Douglas Mackay aka "Ricky Vaughn" was thrown in prison for making an anti-Hillary meme.

Kimmel isn't going to jail, or getting charged with anything.

He's free to keep saying whatever he pleases.

Do you think it was a violation of the 1st amendment when the Biden admin was threatening social media companies to censor?
 
I keep thinking of that Children of Dune quote:

"When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles"
 
I keep thinking of that Children of Dune quote:

"When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles"

It applies to both sides, doesn't it? Both sides have invoked it, and both sides have betrayed it.
 
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Okay. You delivered the misinformation you're designed to deliver. The USA must never make peace.

You may shut up now.

PS: This is a demonstration of what these bots are really designed to do, which isn't even primarily to "spread misinformation" (though that's part of it). The real danger of these bots is the emotional manipulation (algorithmic modification of mood), even if through nothing but mechanized-autism wearing us all down with an endless reel of obsolete political tropes. Machines pushing human emotion-buttons on a mass scale is a recipe for an absolute nightmare scenario. Think Charlie Kirk assassination times 100,000... wind up all the wind-up toys all at the same time, and sick them on society all at once.... AI go BRRRRRRRRR
 
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It applies to both sides, doesn't it? Both sides have invoked it, and both sides have betrayed it.

In the mouth of a statist, the word "liberty" refers to literally nothing. Maybe the closest synonym to "liberty" for the statist is the word "opportunity" or "opening". They mean "liberty" in the sense that Machiavelli used the term "virtue" -- basically, the will to take out the opposition the moment that the opportunity presents itself. If Sherman and Lee lectured each other's armies on "the basic principles of Liberty" -- and what a laugh that would have been -- it would be more meaningful than the verbal sewage flowing out of the mouths of R-statists and D-statists....
 
If Sherman and Lee lectured each other's armies on "the basic principles of Liberty" -- and what a laugh that would have been -- it would be more meaningful than the verbal sewage flowing out of the mouths of R-statists and D-statists....

Mr. Richman has a point, one libertarians need to learn to articulate. The more power government has, the more desperate people are to control that power.

 
Do you think it was a violation of the 1st amendment when the Biden admin was threatening social media companies to censor?
I don't want to speak for AF, but here's how the argument goes...

Is there some hypocrisy? Yes.

But the left gets to censor without anyone going to prison. Heck, they don't even lose their jobs. But conservatives are expected to unilaterally disarm themselves any time they get power?! How is the left ever supposed to feel the pain when they can attack with impunity, while their enemy is expected to disarm so they never have to face an attack of their own? If you ever expect the left to stop censoring, they have to feel that there could be retribution if they ever lose power.
 
I don't want to speak for AF, but here's how the argument goes...

Is there some hypocrisy? Yes.

But the left gets to censor without anyone going to prison. Heck, they don't even lose their jobs. But conservatives are expected to unilaterally disarm themselves any time they get power?! How is the left ever supposed to feel the pain when they can attack with impunity, while their enemy is expected to disarm so they never have to face an attack of their own? If you ever expect the left to stop censoring, they have to feel that there could be retribution if they ever lose power.

So, because the left aren't conservative, nobody gets to be conservative?

Oh, there's another way to fight the left besides becoming the left. Just because the existential GOP doesn't do it does not mean it isn't worth a try
 
Mr. Richman has a point, one libertarians need to learn to articulate. The more power government has, the more desperate people are to control that power.


I remember a scene from Everybody Hates Chris where Chris takes shelter in the only white guy's apartment in the whole neighborhood, because there is a gang-war going on outside. Reluctantly, the old white guy agrees not to force him back out on the street to be shot, but he holds him at gunpoint and forces him to turn his pockets out. Chris protests with a look like, "Seriously? You think I'm here to rob you?" and the old man urges him on, "Go on, turn your pockets out. I don't know how Houdini did it and I don't know how you guys do it." Of course, there is some old-fashioned racism there, but what I find particularly insightful about this quote is that it shows the nature of political power ... I have no idea how Houdini did his tricks... and I have no idea how Democrats and Republicans do their tricks. But I also don't care, and it doesn't really matter, they simply need to be held at gunpoint and forced to turn their pockets out. Start with shuttering the Federal Reserve and prohibiting fractional reserves by Amendment, not merely "because inflation", and all the attendant bribery and economic devastation, but more importantly because these tools permit boundless accounting trickery, and that is their true, highest purpose. If I can always take out another loan with monopoly money, then I can play a never-ending shell game where the money is always wherever you aren't looking. And if there is no money-accounting, there is no accounting of any kind, just the show of it.

The point is, when you create the Ring of Sauron, not only will it attract the power-players you know about and understand, it's going to attract the kind of people whose skills you never imagined could exist, and they are going to seize power by means you never even considered possible. In the end, Houdini will have the Ring, and you will have no idea how he did it. And since there is no possibility of accounting/auditing any of this, because our money is literally made out of rubber, you will never be able to pick the manacles that Houdini himself has placed on your wrists....
 
I don't want to speak for AF, but here's how the argument goes...

Is there some hypocrisy? Yes.

But the left gets to censor without anyone going to prison. Heck, they don't even lose their jobs. But conservatives are expected to unilaterally disarm themselves any time they get power?! How is the left ever supposed to feel the pain when they can attack with impunity, while their enemy is expected to disarm so they never have to face an attack of their own? If you ever expect the left to stop censoring, they have to feel that there could be retribution if they ever lose power.

I guess I'm confused why it's "some" hypocrisy not just plain old hypocrisy. Nobody is getting sent to prison in the Kimmel case either. It seems to be an equal retaliation.

So do you think it's a violation of the 1st in the big tech censorship and the kimmel censorship?
 
So, because the left aren't conservative, nobody gets to be conservative?

Oh, there's another way to fight the left besides becoming the left. Just because the existential GOP doesn't do it does not mean it isn't worth a try
You know I'm just articulating the argument, right?
 
I guess I'm confused why it's "some" hypocrisy not just plain old hypocrisy. Nobody is getting sent to prison in the Kimmel case either. It seems to be an equal retaliation.

So do you think it's a violation of the 1st in the big tech censorship and the kimmel censorship?
Yes. I was trying to explain the argument.

In my opinion, the better strategy here is to fully prosecute the bastards who were involved in the big tech censorship! And eliminate the defense of "passive" censorship, where the government says, "This is a nice website you have; it'd be a shame if something happened to it".

To me, that'd be a better deterrent than using their game against them.
 
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