Japanese nuclear plant may only have a few hours....

[Carson]

Wow! Those pictures seem to show a lot of activity has been going on.

I hope some plan has been carefully calculated. The men and women doing the work deserve every consideration.

 

[osan]

Wow! Those pictures seem to show a lot of activity has been going on.

I hope some plan has been carefully calculated. The men and women doing the work deserve every consideration.

Don't be naive. These people have absolutely no idea what they are doing. Reminds me of that old AAMCO commercial:

CUT TO:

EXTERIOR, DAY - we see chimpanzees with bats frenetically beating on Fukushima reactor buildings.

VO: "Don't worry, our engineers are experts."

END: of world as we know it. Coming soon to a location frighteningly too near to you.

What I wonder about is how the rocket surgeons running this global circus plan on avoiding the consequences of all this?

 

[alucard13mm]

One thing I don't get is... how come the elite are not panicking. Obviously the long term, radiation, cancer causing isotopes are indescriminate killers and can kill the elites.

 

[roho76]

The people trying to solve this are the same ones who decided it was a good idea to build a nuclear reactor on a known earthquake prone area. I don't hold much faith.

 

[devil21]

Fukushima had a core melt-through, not just a meltdown. The nuclear fuel is burrowing into the ground water. There's nothing that can be done to stop it. Been following it but trying not to think about it too much.

I still support nuclear power and think it's the best overall option we have with currently disseminated technology but building a plant right next to the ocean was just plain fucking dumb.

 

[devil21]

One thing I don't get is... how come the elite are not panicking. Obviously the long term, radiation, cancer causing isotopes are indescriminate killers and can kill the elites.

What makes you think they aren't?

 

[Zippyjuan]

Fukushima had a core melt-through, not just a meltdown. The nuclear fuel is burrowing into the ground water. There's nothing that can be done to stop it. Been following it but trying not to think about it too much.

I still support nuclear power and think it's the best overall option we have with currently disseminated technology but building a plant right next to the ocean was just plain fucking dumb.

Evidence of this?

 

[Lucille]

Evidence of this?

Your govt handlers really should do a better job of keeping you informed, so you can more credibly misinform.

Radioactive Water Spills Over Fukushima Barrier, Flooding Surroundings
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-...fukushima-barrier-freely-leaking-surroundings

It was only last week that yet another conspiracy theory became fact when we learned, for the first time after nearly three years of lies, that Tepco had been deceitful and wrong with its "all clear" message about Fukushima, and that instead some 300 tons of contaminated, irradiated water had been flowing into the Pacific ocean every day. So now that the opportunity cost of telling more lies is zero, and the radioactive cat is out of the bag, so to say, the news about the absolute, unmitigated disaster that Fukushima is, and will be for decades, are coming fast and furious. Sure enough, moments ago Tepco reported, and Kyodo confirmed, that radioactive water has risen above the protective barrier and is freely leaking into the surrounding environment...

 

[Zippyjuan]

Evidence that the core is burrowing into the ground? You show a water leak.

that radioactive water has risen above the protective barrier and

 

[Lucille]

Hirohito's revenge.

‘China Syndrome’? Former Japan Official: Underground rumblings heard in Fukushima plant area night of March 14, 2011 — “Caused by melted fuel underground” (VIDEO)
http://enenews.com/former-japan-off...-2011-caused-by-melted-fuel-underground-video

Fukushima: “China Syndrome Is Inevitable” … “Huge Steam Explosions”, “Massive Hydrovolcanic Explosion” or a “Nuclear Bomb-Type Explosion” May Occur
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011...-a-nuclear-bomb-type-explosion-may-occur.html

TV: Very likely some of Fukushima’s melted cores have moved into the earth — “It’s beyond containment right now” (VIDEO)
http://enenews.com/tv-very-likely-t...ushima-its-beyond-containment-right-now-video

At 3:45 in

Paul Gunter director of the reactor oversight project at Beyond Nuclear: Indications are right now that the reactor structures themselves have been breached.

It’s very likely that some of the radioactive material — the melted cores — have moved into the earth.

2 Year Anniversary of Fukushima: The Accident Is NOT Contained
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013...-fukushima-the-accident-is-not-contained.html



http://enenews.com/category/location/japan

 

[devil21]

Evidence of this?

Way too many articles and discussions to peg it down to a single source, never-mind TEPCO's lack of information, but here's a good start.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...-destroyed-fukushima-nuclear-power-plant?lite

TOKYO -- Steam is rising from a destroyed building that houses a reactor at Japan's crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, the operator of the plant, Tokyo Electric Power Co, said on Thursday.

The utility, widely known as Tepco, said the levels of radioactivity around the plant had remained unchanged and it was still looking into what triggered the emission.

"We think it's possible that rain made its way through the reactor building and having fallen on the primary containment vessel, which is hot, evaporated creating steam," said Tepco spokeswoman Maymi Yoshida, adding it was still investigating the matter.

The latest findings underscore the difficulties Tepco is facing in trying to keep the ravaged plant under control. About a week ago a huge spike in radioactive cesium was detected in groundwater 25 meters from the sea.

The steam is a good first clue because what happens when red hot core material reaches the water table? Steam.

Since meltdowns were already confirmed, the fact that the core would melt through was a foregone conclusion even years ago. Only a question of when. And the answer looks like now.

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternativ...own-hits-groundwater-a-comment-2-2479102.html

I can't find the video off-hand but I remember the TEPCO engineer crying on camera a week after it happened. He knew what was up. He knew then they couldn't stop what was happening.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Steam is proof of heat- not necessarily of a core meltdown.

 

[devil21]

Steam is proof of heat- not necessarily of a core meltdown.

Steam is proof of water and heat. There was another steam plume reported two days later. Rainwater. Pfffffft. As if it's never rained there in the last two years.

Pictures of Chernobyl's melted core here:
http://gallery.spaceman.ca/main.php?g2_itemId=4130

Fortunately it did not make it into the ground. If steam is present then it's very possible that the core has reached the water table. I'm convinced that's what has happened. Even if I'm wrong, periodic intentional steam release is also a very bad bad sign.

 

[devil21]

Steam is proof of heat- not necessarily of a core meltdown.

Are you contesting that there's been a core meltdown?????

 

[NiceGoing]

What makes you think they aren't?

Well..
Experience has shown that the 'Elite" do not panic, but DO cause others to panic...
That is the why they are called Elite.

They are sitting in the catbird seat, in other words.

So Alucard's question is a very sound one and leads to interesting speculation, such as: Is this real or is this typical media fear promotion? that is the question, to my mind.

 

[thoughtomator]

Evidence of this?

The problem is not nuclear power; it's the type of reactor that's the problem. Most old nuclear reactors were created to have the side benefit of producing plutonium for nuclear weapons, the main reason those designs were chosen over designs that don't produce weaponizable output.

If we built thorium reactors instead of plutonium reactors the risk in the nuclear industry would be incredibly low. They can't melt down, they can't blow up, and their "waste" is simply more fuel for the next cycle.

You don't hear about these because the vested interests that would be speared are powerful and numerous.

 

[asurfaholic]

The fact that there isn't any media reminders and fear mongering scares me.

But I have no clue exactly what's happening, but the silence is deafening.

 

[jbauer]

Steam is proof of water and heat. There was another steam plume reported two days later. Rainwater. Pfffffft. As if it's never rained there in the last two years.

Pictures of Chernobyl's melted core here:
http://gallery.spaceman.ca/main.php?g2_itemId=4130

Fortunately it did not make it into the ground. If steam is present then it's very possible that the core has reached the water table. I'm convinced that's what has happened. Even if I'm wrong, periodic intentional steam release is also a very bad bad sign.

Shouldn't steam also indicate that the water was relatively close to the surface/air? I don't know how high the water table is there but even if its only a couple feet below the surface the temperature of the earth itself would soak up the energy in the water vapor turning it back into plain old water.

 

[jbauer]

The fact that there isn't any media reminders and fear mongering scares me.

But I have no clue exactly what's happening, but the silence is deafening.

Theres also no media coverage about whether Santa Clause is coming this Christmas but that doesn't mean it is or isn't going to happen. Your CNN's and Fox's of the world need to report about some stupid baby being born in England and about some judge in TN changing a name because they've got nothing better to talk about. "The end of humanity as we know it" is a pretty compelling news story.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

The title of this thread, started March 11, 2011 is, "Japanese nuclear plant may only have a few hours."

'Nuff said.