January 7, 2012 NH Debate - OFFICIAL Thread

abstrusezincate said:
Looking through the comments, I think many people watch debates differently than I do. You don't win by being the best all night, you win by getting the best line that will be repeated and avoiding a huge mistake.

Romney did well but so did Ron.

Huntsman speaking Mandarin is going to be the joke of this debate and it was a huge error.



The most effective attack was Ron on Newt and service. But I still think more work needs to be done on Santorum. They're pushing the right to work thing really hard ahead of SC, and given the Boeing thing, it might make a lot of sense.
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And Perry BOMBED by saying he wants more troops in Iraq.
 
I feel like in the next debate it might help Ron (in SC?) if he simply asked:

What part of "Don't Tread on Me!" do you not understand?

:Boss:
 
Ron Paul is a "wild card" who's in for the LONG HAUL.

Could cause the Republicans "some headaches." LOL
 
LisaNY said:
Well, that was a waste of time. I tuned in the last hour and hardly saw Ron at all, just the other doofs going back and forth. And why was there no time limit? It sounded like they were giving stump speeches instead of debating.
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Definitely watch the tube when it's up. It was great!
 
JuicyG said:
They didn`t let him speak again, same as last time. They`ve let all others ramble endlessly for minutes on end, but when it came to Paul, they`ve attacked him with loaded crappy questions and allowed only short answers.
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The difference is this time his answers were great and he FINALLY did like the other candidates do when they get tough questions - he turned them into something else/positive. (like the racist stuff)
 
nowwearefree said:
i fking hate george
i have said it before this started
he is the most anti ron paul person, more so than fox people
its trully disgrace
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I agree. Many commentators are only in it for the money and to advance their careers, but I truly think that Stephanopoulous (sp?) is a terrible human being. He disgusts me!
 
I think Ron did great. His answers were good and with the exception of the "vision" question were pretty understandable for the average person. Even that answer wasn't terrible; talk of the business cycle and liquidating debt may leave people scratching their heads but it also reinforces the idea that he is the expert on economic issues. That can't hurt. He also smiled a lot and came off well personality wise. One of the best moments I think was when he said that his heart weeps for our returning soldiers. Even people who disagree with his foreign policy will see now where he is coming from and that it is not about "hating America". This may open them up to his ideas more.

On the other hand, I don't think this was a good night for Huntsman. He did well for most of the debate but I think he made a mistake in attacking Romney on his China trade policy. Right or wrong, bashing China for unfair trade practices is popular. Huntsman made it worse by talking down to Mitt and speaking Chinese. People will think he's siding with China. That may be simple-minded, but a lot of voters are simple-minded.
 
Our Champion did well overall, especially in the first hour.....the last 50 minutes he basically faded away because ABC did not want him to improve his standing. They knew he was having his best debate!!!

I have to admit that I agreed with the panel.....Romney really was not touched tonight.....Newt is ready to bow out after SC....Huntsman will be gone by next Friday.....unless two miracles happen. Oh I almost forget, Perry will be heading for the firing range back in Texas after Jan 17th as well.

Santorum may last until Florida, but not much farther......everyone but Romney and Paul are running out of money.....

The media drumbeat, however, is just building that Mitt is going to be the nominee. Ron's ad's are going to have to start going after Romney, right after South Carolina hard, like the serial hypocrisy ads.!!!
 
So sick of this. I despise the media. I DESPISE them.
In the second segment Ron Paul started nailing every answer. He was on fire. He was the only candidate that doesn't sound like a moronic cyborg answering questions. So the media, like always, just completely starts ignoring him.

Ron Paul almost got a three way tie for first in Iowa. He's polling second in New Hampshire. He should have been given a LOT more time. Once he started nailing the questions and completely TAKING CONTROL of the entire debate they black him out. They started giving him 30 seconds per 30 minutes for the last hour of that debate.

Absolutely despicable. Journalists are the scum of the American people!

If Ron Paul was given fair time he would be #1 in the polls and these scoundrels know it.
 
So most of them want to take the loop holes out of tax code. "Witch means higher taxes." But don't want to cut no spending.
 
In this debate tonight, the media tried a somewhat different/new tactic in regards to Dr. Paul. I think it was a purposeful tactic on their part. I think they tried to force Dr. Paul into going after the other candidates, especially Santorum and Gingrich. Why would they attempt this strategy? Probably to attempt to drive up Dr. Paul's unfavorable numbers in terms of net favorable/unfavorable. However, I don't think they succeeded. I have always thought that Dr. Paul has his best debate performances and answers when he is somewhat "intense" or maybe even a little "fired up", and some of his answers tonight confirmed this opinion. He really landed a punch on Gingrich over the draft issue, but Gingrich tried the sympathy trick by mentioning his father or something. However it is also important to note the usual trickery that the media used towards Paul in this instance. I think Dr. Paul only planned to use the draft issue if Gingrich attempted to go after him first. So, the media tried to negate this possibility by directly asking Paul about it, which is pretty pathetic by the moderators of the debate. This was an attempt by the media to drive up negatives, but I think they failed. Overall, given what was thrown at him, I think Dr. Paul did great in this debate.
 
When Romney said "Could it constitutionaly be done? We can ask our constotutionalist here..." I believe that should be in some new Paul videos.
 
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