January 7, 2012 NH Debate - OFFICIAL Thread

[itsnobody]

Now to wait for the next debate which is in a few hours...

 

[wstrucke]

Now to wait for the next debate which is in a few hours...

Tomorrow's Debate

 

[jtstellar]

hmmmm. from a New Hampshire POV, Paul secured second place as Cantonese-Huntsman shot himself in the face. As far as NC, Romney, Gingrich, and Sanctitorum scored points for Roe v Wade and the 'no Adam and Steve' dealio....(IMO)

i winced when huntsman said that. i speak mandarin fluently and quite frankly i had no idea what the f* he was saying. he spit out a line that not even those well versed in mandarin could understand, just to shoot himself in the other foot and lose a presidential debate as well by being marked as a chinese kinsman. can't get any worse than that.

 

[Lavitz]

i winced when huntsman said that. i speak mandarin fluently and quite frankly i had no idea what the f* he was saying. he spit out a line that not even those well versed in mandarin could understand, just to shoot himself in the other foot and lose a presidential debate as well by being marked as a chinese kinsman. can't get any worse than that.

I disagree. I believe Ron butchering a line in Farsi could be worse, lol. But really, you mean he didn't even say anything meaningful? Guess his Mandarin isn't as impressive as I thought.

 

[jtstellar]

I disagree. I believe Ron butchering a line in Farsi could be worse, lol. But really, you mean he didn't even say anything meaningful? Guess his Mandarin isn't as impressive as I thought.

something along the lines of "get our heads cleared up" i believe.. but he totally rushed the sentence so the beginning and end were both mumbled. reminds me of those hollywood actors when one would occasionally butcher a line in foreign language just to sound cool, because english natives don't know what he's saying. i have no doubt he can speak some mandarin, but the occasion was bad to a degree that could only be described as painful-- at the height of American nationalism, of all times, during an American presidential debate, of all places.

 

[blazeKing]

I was happy to see Ron slaughter Newt...revenge is so sweet.

 

[tremendoustie]

that's Compassion, at least 3 of the times!

Not just that -- the new campaign ad (with the interviews) ran at least 2 times, the "politics as usual" ad ran at least twice, and I think the anti-santorum one ran once.

At least three of the breaks had more than one RP ad. Romney and huntsman were the only others with ads, but Paul had more than both of them put together.

 

[Lavitz]

something along the lines of "get our heads cleared up" i believe.. but he totally rushed the sentence so the beginning and end both sounded like mumbling. reminds me of one of those hollywood actor butchering a line in foreign language just to sound cool, because english natives don't know what he's saying. i have no doubt he can speak some mandarin, but the occasion he chose was painfully bad.

Interesting. +rep for clarity. Your analogy reminds me of a time I was supposed to be reading the opening of Don Quixote in Japanese to a room full of students, but I froze up and then just started throwing out random phrases and nobody knew the difference. So it happens, and Huntsman should have known better than to try it in this setting. He alienated a good deal of Republicans and couldn't even get the phrase right.

I have a feeling this will be the joke of the debate...in China: "Former U.S. Ambassador speaks Mandarin in Presidential debate; messes up phrase"

 

[libertyguy]

My favorite moment was when the candidates were asked what they would like to be doing if they were not participating in the debate. Most said watch a ball game, but RP said spend time with family, and if they were all in bed, read an economic textbook. This was classic.

As a comment, I sure would not recommend he read any of the econ textbooks I read in college in the 80's that proposed Keynesian Economics as the rule of economics and how societies should be ordered.

 

[jtstellar]

Interesting. +rep for clarity. Your analogy reminds me of a time I was supposed to be reading the opening of Don Quixote in Japanese to a room full of students, but I froze up and then just started throwing out random phrases and nobody knew the difference. So it happens, and Huntsman should have known better than to try it in this setting. He alienated a good deal of Republicans and couldn't even get the phrase right.

I have a feeling this will be the joke of the debate...in China: "Former U.S. Ambassador speaks Mandarin in Presidential debate; messes up phrase"

i edited and added that he's doing this at the height of american nationalism of all times and with it an animosity towards china.. but ya, his feat was horrifyingly bad and it really requires no additional stretching or emphasis.

ron on the other hand did great with the third party question by saying "well i need to put some pressure on these guys [to be conservative]" which quite frankly is a reason i believe many tea party republicans can accept

 

[tremendoustie]

Please God, let the Compassion ad be playing right now.

It was.

 

[AllAboard]

I thought Paul did well articulating his talking points and elaborating his thoughts while doing it in a manner that humors the process of the MSM debate format. Not only that, he seemed very composed under heavy scrutiny -- remaining humble while being firm and standing tall. I don't know, but in my opinion over the last few weeks Dr. Paul has finding his voice and presenting himself in a very favorable light to voters. It's like he has been waiting for the right time to make his case for his nomination. That time is now and into the future, moving into the primary voting season. I am very encouraged from what I saw and I believe his run at the nomination gets much more interesting going forward.

 

[Occam's Banana]

I wish he would STOP saying that we need to liquidate the debt. Yes, it's necessary, but it's not what people want to hear. It's like having to have a very serious surgery.

People may not WANT to hear it, but they NEED to hear it.
Being told only what they want to hear by power-seeking smooth-talkers is one of the main causes of the mess we're in.
(In fact, I would say it is THE main cause.)

If a spelling error made you facepalm, I don't know what to say

Typos on an Internet forum --> facepalm? Wow! His nose must be *really* sore!

 

[UNC08]

Just watched the debate on DVR. Thought Ron had a great debate. But why in FUCK did he not mention the military donor stats? He had the perfect opening -- it would've been organic and powerful, and he didn't do it.

The next time someone bashes him he should ask simply "Then why do I receive more from the men and women whose business it is to defend our country than everyone on this stage combine?"

Am I wrong in thinking that would mean a lot?

What retorts to that are there that don't involve criticizing our military men and women?

 

[Fort Lauderdale]

 

[Fort Lauderdale]

The American Navy Saving Iranian Fisherman from Somalian Pirates

What would have Ron Paul's response to Rick Santorum have been when Rick Santorum said there would have been no U.S. Navy there to save them had Ron Paul been President because of his non-interventionist stance? Ron Paul didn't get to answer!!

 

[NaturalMystic]

Dr. Paul should answer all criticism the same, " I am just as concerned as you about this issue, maybe even more. But, I do not always believe just because it is the most expensive solution that it is the best. Remember we are suppose to be the party of conservatives."

 

[wgadget]

All I meant was that Ron should start explaining LIQUIDATE THE DEBT in layman's terms. 5th grader.