Jake Tapper nails Trump on "Mexican" judge comments in utterly mad interview

[moostraks]

The curriculum vitae of Trump University Judge Gonzalo Curiel specifically mentions his affiliation with the Hispanic National Bar Association, or HNBA.



The Hispanic National Bar Association published a press release on July 2nd 2015 which specifically stated their intention to target the “business interests” of Donald Trump

There it is.

For an October 2014 ruling?

 

[CPUd]

Yep, people think Trump is just some big dumb bully, he may be acting like that but these people aren't smart enough to see what his strategy is.. He's actually a very smart guy, even if he speaks in 5th grade language he knows exactly what he is doing. He isn't just doing well because he is getting lucky.. He has been doing this time and time again and has been very successful. It's just too bad he has that authoritarian bent.

Yep. It's a pattern.

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[susano]

You sound just like Trump. The doublespeak is strong.

You say Curiel is a member of La Raza. Despite your implications, you then say that you aren't talking about that La Raza. Then you immediately say they probably are related.

If you think these groups are related in anything other than their name, please provide proof. Otherwise, stop propagating baseless lies.

He didn't use doublespeak and he can be forgiven for mild confusion due to the fact that the media is lying and saying La Raza is not La Raza. It is and the WND article posted gave good background.

The question I have is why you others are trying to perpetuate this lie? Is it because you hate Trump? I can understand if you hate Trump but you cannot be forgiven for pushing leftist lies in your effort to discredit him. I've seen a lot of this with Trump. Ted Cruz blaming Trump for the actions of communists, in Chicago, comes to mind. He jumped right on board with the leftist talking points out of his hate for Trump and looked like a fool for it.

 

[silverhandorder]

For an October 2014 ruling?

What are you talking about? You keep mentioning this. Trump is talking about what is happening now.

 

[moostraks]

What are you talking about? You keep mentioning this. Trump is talking about what is happening now.

No, he's not. His complaints go back to October 2014.

 

[susano]

Reading is your friend.

AGAIN:

Hmm. Nope. Still irrelevant. Maybe try all caps or bold next time and see how that works.

 

[silverhandorder]

No, he's not. His complaints go back to October 2014.

OK invent more why don't you.

 

[Zippyjuan]

He didn't use doublespeak and he can be forgiven for mild confusion due to the fact that the media is lying and saying La Raza is not La Raza. It is and the WND article posted gave good background.

The question I have is why you others are trying to perpetuate this lie? Is it because you hate Trump? I can understand if you hate Trump but you cannot be forgiven for pushing leftist lies in your effort to discredit him. I've seen a lot of this with Trump. Ted Cruz blaming Trump for the actions of communists, in Chicago, comes to mind. He jumped right on board with the leftist talking points out of his hate for Trump and looked like a fool for it.

WND still thinks Obama is from Kenya.

 

[moostraks]

OK invent more why don't you.

In a setback to Trump, a judge certified the California case as a class action. This is difficult to get because the plaintiff has to show that members of the class were injured in the same way and that the person bringing the case is an accurate representative of the others involved in the case, according to Cornell Law School Professor Robert C. Hockett . Most lawsuits like this one are settled out of court.

...In an interview, Alan Garten, the Trump Organization's executive vice president and general counsel, said that Donald Trump is being unfairly targeted. Garten also claimed that the vast majority of Trump University students are pleased with their experience.

"We plan to appeal," Garten said of the decision to certify Cohen's suit as a class-action, adding that he expects to prevail since the ruling showed a "manifest disregard for the law." Trump also will ask the judge in the case, Gonzalo P. Curiel, to recuse himself because of what Garten called "animosity toward Mr. Trump and his views."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/lawsuit-accuses-donald-trump-of-deceiving-students/

Article date October 31, 2014.

 

[dannno]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/lawsuit-accuses-donald-trump-of-deceiving-students/

Article date October 31, 2014.

Have you been able to clarify what Garten meant by saying the Judge had "animosity toward Mr. Trump and his views."?

It sounds like they believe it has been an ongoing problem. Right now the best explanation for the political motivations would be what Trump is saying now. The best explanation in 2014 is a question mark, good question for Garten or Trump.

 

[William R]

I would attack the Judge too. He's an advocate for illegal immigration. Belongs to an organization that's launched a nationwide boycott of Trump Enterprises. Member of the La Raza Lawyers association of San Diego which has big ties to National Council of La Raza a group the late Cesar Chavez called very anti Gringo. In other words hated white people!!

 

[susano]

Well, as that appears to be a quote from Trump, that makes him accurate on the first count (which is objective fact), and terribly wrong on the second. It is not "an inherent conflict of interest". Potential maybe, given the circumstances, but not inherent. Trump is being collectivist.

Nope. He said he's Mexican (heritage) with an inherent conflict of interest and that conflict is his La Raza affiliation, which Trump pointed out. Unfortunately, for Trump, as usual, he doesn't keep reiterating that important information and reverts to "He's Mexican, I'm building a wall", lazily boiling it down and making the deliberate misrepresentations of why he objects to the judge possible. This is a serious weak point for Trump, just like his fallback of "crooked Hillary" and failing to elaborate on WHY she's crooked.

 

[moostraks]

Have you been able to clarify what Garten meant by saying the Judge had "animosity toward Mr. Trump and his views."?

It sounds like they believe it has been an ongoing problem. Right now the best explanation for the political motivations would be what Trump is saying now. The best explanation in 2014 is a question mark, good question for Garten or Trump.

An ongoing problem? Yeah, they have offered an excuse but despite numerous opportunities they have given no substance as to how this could have been an issue from the beginning.

Is it not interesting that the issue Trump choose to run on, that caught people off guard with its vitriol, is the very issue which he attacks this judge on? And that he has, as yet, not explained nor filed suit for the presumed bias when o see only evidence (October 2014) is failure to rule in Trump's favor?

 

[susano]

Isn't Ceaser Chavez a hero to Mexican-Americans and socialists?

In an old interview, he stated that when someone says "la raza" it's racist and "anti-gringo". He wasn't talking about a specific organization. He was referring to the concept behind the term. Wouldn't he know?

Excerpts from a 1969 story in The New Yorker entitled Profile: Cesar Chavez (by Peter Matthiessen):


Chavez died in 1993.

Great find. Chavez also opposed illegal immigration, for the same reasons most Americans do - they drive down wages, which Chavez was trying to increase with the United Farm Workers:

http://www.latintimes.com/cesar-cha...aign-dark-side-latino-icons-opposition-162528

 

[susano]

The problem is that the premise he is making is that if the glove don't fit you can't aquit. He is trying to make the argument that if the judge is racist then Trump university is not a scam. Which is categorically false.

No, that's you making that assertion. A judge makes hundreds of rulings as a case drags on and the assertion is that the judge has a bias and has made/will make unfair rulings because of Trump's politics.

 

[Ender]

No, that's you making that assertion. A judge makes hundreds of rulings as a case drags on and the assertion is that the judge has a bias and has made/will make unfair rulings because of Trump's politics.

The cases started in 2010; Trump's politics were completely different then.

 

[susano]

Excellent summation of the main point. Trump has once again reinforced the divide between him and the establishment pols and pundits, by making a "sauce for the goose" comment that exposes their incoherency on race, and selective bullying as to what can or can't be discussed. If the PC set can suggest there are positive aspects to having latino judges, Trump can suggest there can be negative aspects, including judicial bias. If Hillary wants Bill Clinton campaigning for her because of his positive skills, then it's fair game to talk about his many negatives. Etc., etc.

Throughout, Trump is advocating other Republicans (or his own staff) not so much to get behind his roughly stated positions, as to get a spine. One reason the GOP has been losing elections, is they run from every cultural issue. The Donald's answer is, GET OFF YOUR KNEES, bowing and cowing to the MSM and elite's presumptions about what one is "not supposed to say." Who put them in charge of American speech, anyway? Trump is making the point of challenging the MSM's self-declared exclusive right to frame every issue or comment their way, by reframing it along his lines and saying in effect, "how do you like them apples?"

Haha, great post. That's exactly right and it's why the cultural Marxists and all of those kissing their asses are so beside themselves. If they lose control over who is allowed to say what, they loose control of the 'narrative' which is the basis of the mind control. I've always thought Trump's greatest moment was, during the first debate, when he slammed political correctness (which is mind control). The crowd went crazy because they are fed up with it, too.

 

[susano]

I hope Trump attacks more judges. Why should this behavior trouble any libertarians? Are we supposed to lick the boots of judges now because Trump=bad?

^^This

It's like reading at the Democratic Underground.

 

[CPUd]

Haha, great post. That's exactly right and it's why the cultural Marxists and all of those kissing their asses are so beside themselves. If they lose control over who is allowed to say what, they loose control of the 'narrative' which is the basis of the mind control. I've always thought Trump's greatest moment was, during the first debate, when he slammed political correctness (which is mind control). The crowd went crazy because they are fed up with it, too.

Do you believe "diversity" is a code word for white genocide?

 

[susano]

An ongoing problem? Yeah, they have offered an excuse but despite numerous opportunities they have given no substance as to how this could have been an issue from the beginning.

Is it not interesting that the issue Trump choose to run on, that caught people off guard with its vitriol, is the very issue which he attacks this judge on? And that he has, as yet, not explained nor filed suit for the presumed bias when o see only evidence (October 2014) is failure to rule in Trump's favor?

It's entirely possible for Trump and his lawyers to have suspected a bias against Trump, from the beginning, and then further gaining more information about the judge leading to more concerns about bias. That said...

You just said that calling out illegal immigration is "vitriol".

lol

Are you a no borders libertarian? An internationalist? A Utopian? A Marxist?

: popcorn :