It’s Your Right To Not Be Polite With The Cops

[puppetmaster]

one always has to assume that the cop you encounter is looking to thump someone...maybe its your lucky day....or not.

there are no good cops...remember that.

Hey I thought we weren't collectivists...

 

[PaulConventionWV]

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Wow, what a kind, loving and thoughtful Fuehrer.

 

[pcosmar]

I agree but it is a dream to think that would ever be a realistic remedy. I like the term peace officers

And I could live (peaceably) with such,,,, if that were even close to reality.

 

[William R]

You have that right. But as someone who has never had any problems with the police when I've been pulled over my advice is to always be polite. Jerks usually get treated like jerks.

 

[phill4paul]

You have that right. But as someone who has never had any problems with the police when I've been pulled over my advice is to always be polite. Jerks usually get treated like jerks.

I treat them with indifference and as an inconvenience. By law they can write me a ticket. Nothing I can do about that and I'm not going to feign respect to get out of one. I'll see them in court. If, if, they want to make it more personal I can go far beyond indifference. "Not today".. there but by the grace of God.

 

[puppetmaster]

And I could live (peaceably) with such,,,, if that were even close to reality.

yup

 

[paleocon1]

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But that's just the point. They aren't your enemy, they're just a man (or woman) working a job.

Cops are in fact the enemy. They provide nothing of value and do much harm. They are a powerful Mafia whose buttonmen make their living by extortion from mundanes. Still they since they are very dangerous a prudent person gives them the appearance of the 'respect' they so crave.

 

[Paul Or Nothing II]

I think what's going on is certain anti police websites have been dumping their articles here on RPF. These scary incidental accounts paint a stark picture, but they don't describe the average cop any more than the stories about crazy survivalists describe the average libertarian (perhaps the average Alex Jones listener though ). Keep in mind that a lot of the abuse you hear about takes place on the federal level. Local cops live in the town they work in, a lot of times that's also where they were born and raised. They're just looking for clean streets.

It varies from place to place, I'm sure the cops in the city are likely not going to have quite the same tenor or demeanor as the cops in suburbia. But that's what you'd expect right? As far as comparing cops in general to the SS... come on man. That's just crazy talk and you know it.

For the record, if we really did have an anarcho-capitalist, totally libertarian society, do you really think there wouldn't be any police? REALLY??? We've had officers walking the beat since Roman times, heck even before that. It's one of the hallmarks of civilization.

You're right, some of the guys are just overreacting to bad incidents with bad cops & acting like it's the norm; it's like how the mainstream labels all libertarians/Paul-followers as gullible, pot-smoking, corporatists.

As I've said, I'm a voluntaryist & I believe one can hate the government & its apparatuses without acting like everyone that works for the government is the devil incarnate. Personally, I've never had any big issues with cops so I don't see why I must act like EACH & EVERY COP is an evil monster.

And, yes, even in an AnCap society, there would be cops in some form to ensure law & order, whatever they are called, so acting like it's an undesirable profession altogerther is a bit over the top.

 

[pcosmar]

As I've said, I'm a voluntaryist

So you say. I guess everyone loves their labels.

In that respect,, I am an anti-authoritarian.
I believe that all men are equal in the eyes of the Creator, and therefore none has any authority over any other.

This site is dedicated to Liberty. The polar opposite of Authoritarianism.

Enforcers of Control (police) ,,, the very idea that free people need to be controlled, is an authoritarian concept. It is wholly incompatible with Liberty.

Liberty can not be enforced nor controlled.

 

[JK/SEA]

Hey I thought we weren't collectivists...

whats a collectivist?

 

[bunklocoempire]

"Verbal Judo" modified.

It's the training my son received from the PD and it has little to do with polite gentle verbal persuasion.

He was pretty stoked about having that "tool" to get the "bad guy" -until he was actually told by his superiors to use it in an attempted arrest situation. When put into practice, he understood it as escalating the situation to achieve...? His answer: revenue, and "respect" out of fear.

Polite? Why? What does polite mean when deadly force is hanging over your head and you are being led to say or admit things?

Keep your mouth shut/use your best judgement.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

You're right, some of the guys are just overreacting to bad incidents with bad cops & acting like it's the norm; it's like how the mainstream labels all libertarians/Paul-followers as gullible, pot-smoking, corporatists.

As I've said, I'm a voluntaryist & I believe one can hate the government & its apparatuses without acting like everyone that works for the government is the devil incarnate. Personally, I've never had any big issues with cops so I don't see why I must act like EACH & EVERY COP is an evil monster.

And, yes, even in an AnCap society, there would be cops in some form to ensure law & order, whatever they are called, so acting like it's an undesirable profession altogerther is a bit over the top.

I hate to be the first to tell you, but you're no ancap.

Oh, you called me intolerant!!! Say it ain't so!

 

[Crashland]

Matthew 5:44 "But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."

Fucking hypocrites. Anyone in this thread who claims to be a Christian, why don't you go suck on that instead of calling people who prefer taking the respectful high road "copsuckers".

 

[CPUd]

This guy takes a slightly different approach:

Published on Sep 11, 2014

Ever wonder what would happen when you get confronted by MP's and military investigation unit outside of the base and don't say much to them?

 

[Anti Federalist]

You're right, some of the guys are just overreacting to bad incidents with bad cops & acting like it's the norm; it's like how the mainstream labels all libertarians/Paul-followers as gullible, pot-smoking, corporatists.

As I've said, I'm a voluntaryist & I believe one can hate the government & its apparatuses without acting like everyone that works for the government is the devil incarnate. Personally, I've never had any big issues with cops so I don't see why I must act like EACH & EVERY COP is an evil monster.

And, yes, even in an AnCap society, there would be cops in some form to ensure law & order, whatever they are called, so acting like it's an undesirable profession altogerther is a bit over the top.

DoubleThink.

If the state is a monster, then if you don the uniform of the monster, you become the monster.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Matthew 5:44 "But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."

Fucking hypocrites. Anyone in this thread who claims to be a Christian, why don't you go suck on that instead of calling people who prefer taking the respectful high road "copsuckers".

Meh, it's this modern, weaksauce, Romans 13 Christianity that has made me renounce my faith.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Matthew 5:44 "But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."

Fucking hypocrites. Anyone in this thread who claims to be a Christian, why don't you go suck on that instead of calling people who prefer taking the respectful high road "copsuckers".

Very selective interpretation of that passage. Yeshua also condemned those who earned it, if you'll recall correctly. He even threw the money-changers out of the temple with threat of physical force, FFS!

And Jesus entered the temple and drove out all those who were buying and selling in the temple, and overturned the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who were selling doves. 13And He said to them, "It is written, 'MY HOUSE SHALL BE CALLED A HOUSE OF PRAYER'; but you are making it a ROBBERS' DEN." 14And the blind and the lame came to Him in the temple, and He healed them.…

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Meh, it's this modern, weaksauce, Romans 13 Christianity that has made me renounce my faith.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again.

Yup, it's one of the things that drove me away from "mainline" protestantism and non-denominationalism etc. into the traditional Orthodox view, which is more anti-State.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Yup, it's one of the things that drove me away from "mainline" protestantism and non-denominationalism etc. into the traditional Orthodox view, which is more anti-State.

I might have to look into that more.

I have no use for modern AmeriKan Christianity, I find it to be a combination of sideshow hucksterism combined with state worship.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

I might have to look into that more.

I have no use for modern AmeriKan Christianity, I find it to be a combination of sideshow hucksterism combined with state worship.

btw, at my parish we don't even celebrate national holidays like Memorial Day. We use the ecclesiastical calendar and only observe holidays, feasts, fasts, etc as prescribed by classical tradition. Other parishes operate the same way, AFAIK.