Its Official...the Establishment has stolen our vote!

why wouldnt they steal the vote?? people keep calling this a conspiracy, look there are two options: EITHER manipulation of the machines is possible to accomplish with a good shot at not being detected or its not. It has nothing to do with a "conspiracy", I assure if they could steal the votes they WILL. And, as it seems that these machines CAN be tampered with without leaving evidence behind, then you tell me if thre was fraud or not!
 
Look, LP party candidates ALONE have gotten 15% of the vote in this state. and your telling me RON PAUL who appeals to LP and traditional conservatives to practicaly all walks of life........will not make more than 10% here?

This is fucking bullshit and everyone knows it...the Clinton over Obama results also show this. This election is RIGGED.
 
electronicmaji said:
Shame on them....

The main difference between Iowa and NH? Electronic voting machines. They're giving us just enought votes to keep us happy and not make it obvious that its fraud. We need hand recounts and eyes views and we need lawyers!:mad:
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.....or it could be that people either do not know about Paul's message, or they just don't want to see him president.
 
This is all bullshit but I sort of guessed this would happen again. And it will again and again and again. Gotta love those Diebolds.

I need a cigarette.
 
coboman said:
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by ineptitude".

It is time to stop the conspiracy theories, and start taking some responsibility. The internet is not the real world, and the issues that make internet people tick, are not the same that make the regular americans react.

All facts pointed to this. The previous polls, the exit polls, the actual numbers.

I think it is time to realize that the skewed perception is the one we have.
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Whatever that quote means, it just makes people more likely to make "mistakes".

People can easily get really good at making "mistakes", or they can just be malicious and of course everyone will assume its a mistake.

Baaa!
 
How much longer do you think before all votes are counted? 9pm now... and finally the regular networks are tuning in to the primary.

And you can count me in for the "conspiracy nuts" group. I perceive nothing good out of ANY of those people who control these situations. If it's not media-conspiracy, then voting fraud, etc. I can't believe McCain, gross me out. 27% of precincts reporting, ABC projecting McCain as winner.

BTW, as for voting, they are showing TV ads here in Central Florida for a new "Stay Home & Vote" deal where everyone can do a write in. Is that better or worse as far as possible vote manipulation?
 
synthetic said:
People don't really want to hear this but I agree with you. Be prepared to be called a conspiracy theorist and so on. The real conspiracy is using these machines year after year, election after election with so few asking why that is. Amateur programmers can hack and code these things after all.
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I agree. the fact that this happened in 2004 during a general election, and that some of those people are in federal prisons now while others are dead in bizaare double homicide "gay love triangle crimes of passion" cover-up scandals should tell you this is real. Ralph Gonzales. His killers walk free and are still fixing elections today.

Just be sure. Where's Jim Conditt, Jr.?
 
The Truth

It is God's Judgment on our society. In the Old Testament they wanted a king. They no longer wanted God. They wanted to be like other Nations. God gave them Saul. If you know Scripture from a Christian point of view, you will understand what I am saying. Psalm 46:10.
 
xtravar said:
First of all, why would the establishment make Giuliani look so bad as well? That doesn't make any sense.
Second of all, don't blame the campaign or the voters - blame the poor media coverage.
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Because they don't want Rudy as the nominee. He purposely skipped all of the first states and went straight to the southern states where he will do very well in.

Do you really think they care about Rudy? They laugh at him because he will be so easy to take down if by some bizarre chance he does get the nomination.


Iowa and NH were rigged but no one wants to hear it. I think because they will have to admit that we really do live in tyranny!
 
xtravar said:
First of all, why would the establishment make Giuliani look so bad as well? That doesn't make any sense.
Second of all, don't blame the campaign or the voters - blame the poor media coverage.
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You have to fight that. It's your job to fight the media and spread the message.
 
traitorist said:
they havent stolen anything. the people have voted for what they want. more war, more tyranny.
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Agreed. We're just gonna have to wake up to the fact that the majority of Americans are dumbfucks and we deserve to get what is coming to us whether it is an economic collapse or another terrorist attack.
 
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