Its Official...the Establishment has stolen our vote!

[Finn]

ANYWAY, if you saw the video in another thread, then you would have SEEN with your own eyes that NH voting machines were changing the talley of the votes. Period. No doubt nor speculation. he voting was rigged. People's votes for RP did NOT get counted in NH..for SURE, and probably skewed for the other candidates.

I'm confused. What video exactly are you talking about?

 

[Crickett]

This video, from black box proves voting fraud beyond doubt if you ask me.

 

[Finn]

^ repeating my question there

 

[Crickett]

+1 finally...someone who puts it all together

I agree totally..

sneak in, cut their cords, pour in Cocacola

 

[phree]

Our numbers were growing and I see more and more people waking up everyday. So you can go ahead and blame the campaign, but I think we have some real enemies who will do anything they can to get the nomination - and they have the media on their side. The fair-weather supporters here blaming Paul are making me nauseous.

I hope you're not sitting at your computer calling me a fair-weather supporter. In the past 2 weeks I've driven 3500 miles, been away from my family during holidays, spent way more money than I have and worked long hours in freezing temperatures.

Yesterday I sat at a table for 11 hours and watched every person in a NH district receive their ballot. This was in a small town where almost everyone knows each other and I was able to gather a lot of information just by listening. Many people stated who they were backing and Dr. Paul was only mentioned by one person while McCain, Obama and Hillary were mentioned often. I also witnessed and tracked the new voters and which party they voted with. The new voters were 1/2 Democrat. The large number of undecided voters had to declare which party they would be voting with and 3/4 went Democrat. I compared my experience with other OLFD poll watchers and their accounts were similar. Those of us who watched the polling believe that the results are accurate. Making an issue about voting machine fraud will only serve to discredit us. In my opinion a recount would only serve to embarrass the campaign because I believe it would come out about the same. There will be zero support for a recount from any election officials or from the Ron Paul campaign.

We finished 5th because we failed to reach more voters. This "fair weather" supporter believes that Dr. Paul has the potential to do significantly better. I understand that everyone did their best, but I also understand that we all need to learn from our mistakes.

The Official Campaign:

They approached the people of NH with hard-sell tactics in a state that is known to be hostile to those methods. I talked to people at stores, gas stations, etc., and when I mentioned Ron Paul they would frequently grimace at the sound of his name. Many of them said they were frustrated at the incessant calls both automated and not. When I did phone banking and canvasing I got many similar comments. At our OLFD house we received automated RP calls on each of the 2 days before the primary. We spammed NH and they didn't appreciate it. To win this election we need to perfect the soft-sell. The soft-sell approach is much more true to Dr. Paul's nature and is more likely to win the maximum support from undecided voters.

Dr. Paul:

I love Dr. Paul, and in my eyes he is a true American hero. I love his honesty and the fact that he doesn't filter his thoughts based on who is listening to him. Unfortunately the number of Americans who are ready for the bald truth is probably around 4-5%. I believe Dr. Paul when he says the Civil War was unnecessary and that Lincoln wasn't the history book icon we learned about in school. Still, honesty doesn't require making such comments and the political reality is that making them will result in shrinking your base. I'm not suggesting that Dr. Paul change his message, but that he refine it and deliver it in a way that the majority is ready to hear.

The Grassroots:

Dr. Paul is humble, quiet and wise. He is grandfatherly and approachable. He is respectful of other people's rights to have their opinions and he disregards insults choosing instead to focus on real issues. He rarely mentions an opponent by name and when he does he is very careful not to attack them personally. A significant number of grassroots supporters represent the exact opposite of what Dr. Paul does. They are out of step with his message and they seem totally ignorant of political strategy. They are more focused on venting their personal frustrations than they are with helping Dr. Paul get elected. The body of grassroots support is the backbone of this campaign, and it is also the biggest liability.

 

[webber53]

From ABC,
Please read!

h ttp://blogs.abcnews.com/thenumbers/2008/01/new-hampshires.html

 

[losinglife]

doesnt even have anything to do with us... there is no freakin way hillary made that huge of a leap in NH

 

[phree]

No comments about my perspective? Let me paraphrase my post above.

The official campaign, the grassroots volunteers and Dr. Paul all made mistakes that cost votes.

The vote wasn't tampered with.

 

[snaFU]

This obviously shows that we are ruled by lizardmen from another planet. They have allowed jews to rule over this country and take away our freedoms.


/nutjob off

 

[traitorist]

watch votes change right before your eyes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiiaBqwqkXs

 

[Drknows]

All you have to do is ask yourself.

How did Rudy Beat us in NH? How did Mccain have so much support? I mean we ran TV, Radio, Newspaper ads both from the official campaign and grassroots. Plus its one of the most independent states.

We had 100s of visible supporters in each area and packed meetup groups. We have the most dedicated supporters.


So how did they out number us? RUDY? A guy falling in the polls with zero ads and media coverage in NH?


I really believe Ron Paul was set up for a high place finish maybe not first but high enough to gain a shit load of momentum. and the powers that be took that away from him. I mean they even did a "Ron Pauls a Racist" Article on the day of NH.

 

[Mike S.]

So 137 places out of 302 used paper ballots? Did Ron Paul win in most of these 137? I watched the Diebold YouTube videos - it certainly is possible that some of the voting machines could have been tampered with. But then you should expect that Ron Paul would have done significantly better in the 137 hand counted polls.

I don't care. People need to develope some thick skin or they will go no where in life.


Diebold Machines In New Hampshire


http://www.watchthevote2008.com/

Using the Voter Verification Affidavit when your ballot is being processed by
ANY VOTING MACHINE, COMPUTER OR SCANNING DEVICE.

New Hampshire Affidavit (There are 302 polling places in New Hampshire. 137 use paper ballots and are counted in the open

before all witnesses. These 137, such as Richmond, New Hampshire, are conducting an open, verifiable, constitutional

election. 175 polling places are using computers to optical scan paper ballots. The ballots then disappear into the

computer. In New Hampshire, the law allows each polling place to take the ballots out of the computer at the close of the

polls (about 7 PM EST in most places in NH), and count the paper ballots in front of all witnesses. IF any local polling

place will not remove the paper ballots from the computer and count they in the open, then these polling places are running

an unconstitutional election, and every voter at such polling places must use a Voter Verification Affidavit to make sure

his or her vote counts. In other words, if we get 80 affidavits for candidate X, and the computer count only shows 40 votes

for candidate X, we have proof of a fraudulent computer count.) Click here for the New Hampshire Affidavit.



Diebold Machines in New Hampshire


Voter Verification Affadavits

Download Voter Verification Affadavits to hand out at polls:

(Voters should hang onto the original and mail a copy).
http://www.libertybroadcastnetwork.org/affidavit_program/new-hampshire-voter-affidavit-program-.html

 

[phree]

Dr. Paul picks up a few points in those districts that hand count, but that's still not a good showing compared to what I believe is the potential. Also, areas that do hand counted ballots, like the one where I was a poll watcher, are small towns that most likely represent a different demographic than the larger towns. That different demographic could feasibly amount to 2%. I got along very well with the people of Bristol NH where I poll watched. They gave me donuts and coffee and one lady brought me a bottle of water. During the 11 hours that we handed out ballots it became obvious to me that these people take their election very seriously. There is no way that they cheated on those hand counted ballots and just over 11% of them voted for Dr. Paul. Over 35% voted for McCain. Hunter got 2 votes which is 0.3%

It's true that our system is flawed and needs to be reformed, but that doesn't change what I and many other RP poll watchers observed during the voting and in the weeks leading up to the election. We saw a campaign that failed to address the voters of NH in a way that they would respond favorably to. We saw people openly talking about McCain and responding negatively to Ron Paul. We saw pushy grassroots supporters trying to intimidate residents into voting for Dr. Paul. If this campaign doesn't remake itself at every level very soon we may as well get used to results like this.

 

[Molly1]

All you have to do is ask yourself.

How did Rudy Beat us in NH? How did Mccain have so much support? I mean we ran TV, Radio, Newspaper ads both from the official campaign and grassroots. Plus its one of the most independent states.

We had 100s of visible supporters in each area and packed meetup groups. We have the most dedicated supporters.


So how did they out number us? RUDY? A guy falling in the polls with zero ads and media coverage in NH?


.

DIEBOLD

 

[IcyPeaceMaker]

http://ncel.w4sp.com/docs/COMPLAINT-amended ASSEMBLED justified-FINAL.pdf
The suit has been filed