Its Official...the Establishment has stolen our vote!

"well, if the machines were hacked, we need to find a hacker to hack the hack that the hacker hacked and hack it for our own diabolical purposes."

LOL! That is Priceless! Thanks for the laugh... now go find that hack...
 
Agreed. We're just gonna have to wake up to the fact that the majority of Americans are dumbfucks and we deserve to get what is coming to us whether it is an economic collapse or another terrorist attack.
Eric, you may or may not understand the significance of this statement, but
it certainly sounds like this is exactly what troll or shill would say in this
forum immediately after an election.

This meme of the public is to blame for our trouble is very wrong and extremely
dangerous. This is exactly how the Pathocrats operate, first they attack you,
the emotionally devastate you, then they make the victim feel as if they
deserve their fate, thereby the victim is unwilling to fight back.

The Political Ponerology books shows how we
are in the grips of pyschopathic leaders who will do anything for power. We must
never ever bend to this sickness. We must see them for what they are, and
realize that the vast majority of the public are good honerable people. We
can never ever let them make us think that we are to blame or that we are the
problem. For as soon as that happens, it is game-over.
 
I don't think its a conspiracy to think the numbers are wrong....its not that hard to think this the voting machines can be hacked by a child in under a minute...just...explain it ?
 
Is New Hampshire even an electronic voting state? Why do I keep hearing this, when the state secretary had to get more "BALLOTS" to each county?

You fill in the dot and then feed it through a machine that counts the vote. In the counties that reported first, they ONLY USE THE MACHINE TO COUNT THE VOTE. There is NEVER a hand count to verify the total.

Some counties on the other hand ONLY DO A HAND COUNT to get their totals. Those counties are taking long to get their votes in because they are counting them by hand.

Watch this the whole way through and tell me you feel comfortable with these machines.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PiiaBqwqkXs
 
Lol, the GOP is a party in DEEP trouble.

They ignore Ron's message at their own peril. But we have the money and people to do anything Dr Paul chooses, and that includes a third party run. :)
 
Okay lets be reasonable and find out which precincts or counties hand count versus the ones machine counted. If there is a sizeable difference then those that question the process have a legitimate argument, agreed?
 
Wasn't it Stalin who said, "It's not the voters who matter, but the people who count the vote"? Just sayin' :D
 
Diebold Machines were used in 2004 and there were a lot of pissed off people. We know that as fact.

Here is an article from WIRED MAGAZINE. A very legit and mainstream computer magazine.


"Vote Recount to Settle Doubts? But if the recount uncovers problems with voting machines, it could lead to a ... New Hampshire wards used optical-scan equipment made by Diebold Election ..."
www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2004/11/65736


Anyone else need a wake up call or are you still in denial? Are wired magazine a bunch of kooks and not mainstream for computers?
 
I've watched these forums go from smart, uplifting, and sane posts back in June to this kind of conspiracy tripe every other post. It's really sad to see and frankly is more disheartening to me than seeing Paul's results in Iowa and NH.

Seriously, what evidence do you have other than your wishful thinking and narrow internet vision to proclaim that the results were tampered with? None!

The cause of liberty doesn't begin and end with Ron Paul. We need smart, motivated, rational people to carry the torch far into the future, not a bunch of people who fall back on excuses and unfounded conspiracy theories when things don't go their way.
 
Look, if the campaign doesn't raise the issue, let it rest. Besides, it's way too early too get worked up about it, let's see how the numbers play out. Like someone suggested earlier, if there's a major discrepancy between the hand counted vs machine counted, then let's talk.
 
Of course it was rigged!

And I have to say now that this is about over, ALL the idiots on this board who slammed on "conspiracy theorists" are UNEDUCATED SHEEP YOURSELVES.

911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB

THE ELECTION MACHINES WILL GIE THEM WHATEVER RESULTS THEY WANT


THE FED WAS NOT CREATED BY ACCIDENT

THE 16TH AMENDMENT WAS NEVER RATIFIED YET I BET MOST OF YOU STILL PAY YOUR IRS BAGMAN

Try to do some research for the next time around before you disrespect those of us who have been researching and following the rise of the NWO for 20+ years.

But hey, we made you look bad right?

Want to know why Dr. Paul is so short on votes still (even with the fraud).....well go ahead and freak little old ladies out that they artent gonna get their Social security - riiiiight, that wil bring them all in. Anyone aware of the demographics of the USA? Thats right they are mostly old or getting there. Hmmmm.

And his embarassment of 911 truthers? When WE are the truest patriots out of all you sleeping morons. As far as I'm concenred he lost this when he said on Glen Beck that its "rediculous" , well its obvious that he hasnt done his research on this MOST IMPORTANT immediate topic.

I noticed something was wrong when I donated money and left a message like a bunch of other people BUT mine wasnt published noooo. And all I did was ask for him to RECONSIDER that MAYBE we might need a new investigation with SOME facts.

There are a helluva a lot more truthers than you think and you alienated them all. We are the ones who have been following Dr. Paul for years, he has spoken about the NWO. However, when he was at his peak interest, what did he say instead? Instead of talking about real dangers like the new anti free speech HR whatever which criminalizes free speech unpopular with the media (now inlcuding all of you folks) he rails about immigration. Yeah we all know its out of hand, but no suggestion as to WHY they've been allowing this to go on so long? It made no sense at all. This ad single handedly probably did more damage to our momentum than even the almost complete blackout we got from the whore press.

In short, you dont believe in conspiracies but now you lived one. There is no possible way we got as little votes as they say. I challenge anyone to compare the results of the hand tabulated and their corrupt machine results.

Also people are not that dumb to be against the war and vote for the biggest war maniac there is - you're right it stinks, a lot like the MSM HOAX FABLE CONSPIRACY theory that somehow 19 arabs with boxcutters stood down our air defenses and mad ethe towers fall at near free fall speed to dust that smolders for weeks afterwards. yeah but we are the crazy ones.

911 truth WAS YOUR BASE and the only way to explain 911. Dr. Paul failed miserably in this regard as did a huge section of the "supporters" here. Only when you have the full story of our enslavement could you begin to understand. And thats exactly what we are, owned by the queen of england or a pope or the rothschilds or whoever the rich FUCKS are that own the TV stations, the banks, the military contravtors, the whore congress, etc etc.

Yeah you're damn right they dont count your vote, what are you going to do about it?


PS - Dr. Paul looked DUMB trying to defend the official story of 911. I bet you lost 1000's of votes in every state.

I wasn't expecting trolls until the vote tally was over with.
 
Wasn't it Stalin who said, "It's not the voters who matter, but the people who count the vote"? Just sayin' :D
diebold_ad_stalin.jpg
 
It's not that I can't believe that Paul would lose, I just can't believe that Giuliani could beat him in NH. And by an ever constant amount. In my canvassing efforts, I have actually found McCain, Romney and Huckabee supporters. I've found all kinds of Ron Paul supporters. But I've never even heard of a Giuliani supporter. Not anywhere in the most conservative center of Colorado, nor anywhere in our home state of NY. The wife of a friend once supported him, and that's the closest I've seen.

Also, he really should have done a little better than the polling would suggest simply because so many Paul supporters wouldn't have been counted among likely voters.

I never thought Iowa was rigged and I don't know anything for certain, but the stakes were pretty high here. Election fraud happens all the time, it's just a question of how much it happens. It's not that I think he'd be first or anything, but I can't buy him losing to RG.
 
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by ineptitude".

It is time to stop the conspiracy theories, and start taking some responsibility. The internet is not the real world, and the issues that make internet people tick, are not the same that make the regular americans react.

All facts pointed to this. The previous polls, the exit polls, the actual numbers.

I think it is time to realize that the skewed perception is the one we have.

We watched the florida GOP and mitt romney cheat at the official straw poll in st pete the day of the youtube debates. The chairman practically laughed in our faces.
 
I didn't say anything about Iowa, but this time I think you are correct. I'm not bying any of this.

I hate to say it, but I'm starting to think that too. Something is definitely fishy here. I can't prove it, but something is not right.
 
Unfortunately it doesn't look like it's a conspiracy. :(

Diebold Election Systems: cause for concern with NH's only ...Last year the NH legislature approved a ballot redesign that favors the Diebold optical scan machines, but makes obsolete the ES&S OPTECH optical scan ...
www.democracyfornewhampshire.com/node/view/2008 - 36k - Cached - Similar pages


NH-approved Diebold voting machines, controlling 81% of NH vote ...NH-approved Diebold voting machines, controlling 81% of NH vote counts, proven untrustworthy in study after study. SOURCE: Scoop News ...
www.democracyfornewhampshire.com/node/view/5094 - 44k - Cached - Similar pages
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LiveLeak.com - Vote Fraud Expert Warns Of New Hampshire "Chicanery"Key vulnerabilities of Diebold machine identified within ten minutes by programmer ... Box Voting project in Leon County is used throughout New Hampshire, ...
www.liveleak.com/view?i=d5b_1199803199 - 11 hours ago - Similar pages

Recount New HampshireTomorrow the first recount begins--in New Hampshire, of all places, ... 73 percent used optical-scan technology and 62 percent used Diebold machines. ...
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